Apologize For What?

[JaneyVee]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by rhett o rick (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

Donald Trump's Muslim Bashing Aids Cause of Terror Networks, Say Experts.

Donald Trump's call for closing America's door to Muslims is opening a window of opportunity for groups like ISIS, counter-terrorism experts and human rights advocates say.

The Republican presidential candidate's controversial proposal for barring all Muslims from entering the United States is being used by the head-chopping fanatics and other terrorist groups like al Qaeda to attract recruits by painting the land of the free as opposed to Islam, experts told NBC News on Tuesday.

"They love him from the sense that he is supporting their rhetoric," said Rita Katz with the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors the social media activities of Islamic terrorist groups

"They follow everything Donald Trump says," she noted. "When he says, 'No Muslims should be allowed in America,' they tell people, 'We told you America hates Muslims and here is proof.'"

link: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/donald-trumps-muslim-bashing-aids-cause-terror-networks-say-experts-n476221

[notadmblnd]

1. I wondered where that talking point came from.

Here's what Politifact had to say about it.

For now, it seems that Clinton has turned speculative left-of-center rhetoric into fact.

Others have wondered if ISIS will use Trump’s statements against the United States. On Dec. 14, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, told Alisyn Camerota on CNN’s New Day that "Donald Trump could be a recruitment poster for ISIS because he is fanning the flames of hate."

A few days earlier, Robert Kuttner of the American Prospect, a liberal magazine, wrote a column titled, "How ISIS and Trump Enable Each Other." In it, he wrote, "Trump’s collected speeches are like an ISIS recruiting video."

At PolitiFact, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim. We’ll update our fact-check in the event solid evidence emerges. But for now, that evidence does not exist.

Our ruling.....more

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/19/hillary-clinton/fact-checking-hillary-clintons-claim-isis-using-vi/

[NorthCarolina]

2. Well, technically

she did tell a fib though regardless of who it was directed at. Lying isn't generally and acceptable practice whether directed at friend OR foe.

[JaneyVee]

3. Neither is stealing campaign data.

[NorthCarolina]

4. That's probably why

according to NGP VANs own data records, none was stolen. You keep right on beating that horse though. Practice makes perfect!

[JaneyVee]

5. According to the audit it most certainly was.

Saving files to a personal folder is stealing.

[Armstead]

6. Master of deflection

Hijacking your own thread

[Armstead]

7. Shouldn't apologize....But should clarify

She overstated and made something up to make a point. She should acknowledge that, without undercutting the valid point she was making.

That is not a good practice from a candidate who already has trust issues.

[JaneyVee]

8. She should clarify using the article above.

According to experts, they most certainly are paying attention to Trump.

[Armstead]

9. I agree with her basic point...But she misspoke

She shouldn't grovel and apologize. But she should acknowledge that she stated a specific assumption that she shouldn't have.....iT would help her credibility.