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ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:02 AM Dec 2015

"The Private CIA" - Who/What is KROLL? Hardly an independent auditor

"The Private CIA" - Who/What is KROLL, and why did NYC Mayor Bloomberg hire them to spy?


So as I'm going through my email today, I read a small news notice about the undercover video shot of gun shows in Ohio and elsewhere that NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg commissioned to have done. You've heard about these covert video recordings, showing how easily "the gun show loophole" allows people to buy guns.

You may have assumed that it was NY investigators; either cops or officials in some sort of capacity,...who shot or gathered the video.

But it was a private contractor. As in,...a profit-driven group who had reason to make their employer (Bloomberg) happy.

Now of course, there is nothing wrong with free enterprise and profit-based endeavors, nor with gov't using private contractors where officials or officers might not be best suited to a task.

But look at KROLL International a little more closely, and the hairs start to go up on your neck and your "Spidey-Sense" begins to tingle.

KROLL is a LARGE supplier of all manner of gear to the law enforcement and prison industries. They also have a private investigations and corporate threat assessment division. (Gee,...if you want to get the contracts for NYC police and jail gear, what better way than to make Bloomberg happy?!) More than that, KROLL supplies the lion's share of prison gear to the US Military. Abu Gharib prisoners wear Kroll's orange jumpsuits, as do those in Guantanamo Bay. But it goes deeper. Among the things I have found in just a few minutes of snooping online;.....

1991 Kroll hired by Kuwait to investigate Saddam's finances;

1992 Kroll -advising Enron;

97-98 teamsters union elections;

1993-2001 responsible for security at World Trade Center (which ought to concern those who question what REALLY happened)

Due to activities like these, long before 9/11, KROLL earned the moniker of "The Private CIA".

Below is some more info on KROLL.

http://xiandos.info/Kroll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroll_Inc.

What does all this mean? Well,...perhaps nothing at all. Perhaps what we saw in those video clips was exactly as it appeared. Perhaps KROLL International really was impartial. Perhaps nobody in the company was obsessed with pleasing the media mogul billionaire mayor of the nation's largest city who controls the purse strings of a very important customer. Perhaps it didn't occur to anyone at KROLL how much money they could lose by not delivering to Bloomberg what he expected and demanded. Perhaps nobody was tempted to stage anything.

Perhaps.

https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Opinion/060858-2009-11-02-the-private-cia-who-what-is-kroll-and-why-did.htm

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"The Private CIA" - Who/What is KROLL? Hardly an independent auditor (Original Post) ViseGrip Dec 2015 OP
Kroll does background checks for the NRC FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #1
I'm sure there is a whole lot more.... ViseGrip Dec 2015 #2
A group of auditors that Sanders has already agreed to do the audit. leftofcool Dec 2015 #3
Their work history is NOT a conspiracy. Strange Sanders would agree to them if it's even true. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #4
I was wondering about that also. madfloridian Dec 2015 #6
Sanders had to agree to an audit in order to get access to the DNC data system. Sancho Dec 2015 #8
K&R for the morning java ViseGrip Dec 2015 #5
And another k&r madfloridian Dec 2015 #7
K&R Scuba Dec 2015 #9
We all see who Sanders picked as National Data Director. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10
The bias shows within the DNC once again. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #12
K&R 99Forever Dec 2015 #11
Pretty much any forensic investigation company MineralMan Dec 2015 #13

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
3. A group of auditors that Sanders has already agreed to do the audit.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 01:27 AM
Dec 2015

Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
8. Sanders had to agree to an audit in order to get access to the DNC data system.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 04:19 AM
Dec 2015

His campaign was cut off because he didn't agree initially to an investigation.
The DNC would pick the investigator, not any of the candidates.

Why Kroll? Likely they are looking for someone who can recover deleted files, interview witnesses, deal with fired employees who don't want to talk, and look outside the VAN system logs alone. Maybe there will be polygraph tests. Who knows?

The idea is to see if any non-Sanders information was viewed or copied or saved. If the staff is covering up anything, it's still possible for the DNC to penalize them or cut them off again.
It seems well established that the story is not as initially described by the Sanders spokesman:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2015/12/19/four-questions-bernie-sanders-needs-to-answer/
Four Questions Bernie Sanders Needs to Answer

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2015_12/an_explanation_of_what_bernie059035.php#
December 19, 2015 11:57 AM
An Explanation of What Bernie Sanders Staffers Actually Did and Why It Matters

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/da7e5f2765814506a2519ea03055c1e6/dnc-barring-sanders-team-accessing-data-after-breach
Data breach sets off charges of theft in '16 Democratic race

https://medium.com/@AmyKDacey/here-s-what-happened-with-ngp-van-the-sanders-campaign-and-the-clinton-campaign-d75dd1d2edbf#.qdvbefufu
Here’s what happened with NGP VAN, the Sanders Campaign, and the Clinton Campaign

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/19/deal-reached-between-sanders-and-dnc-doesnt-do-away-with-the-disdain/
Deal reached between Sanders and DNC doesn’t do away with the disdain

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/democratic-presidential-race-explodes-after-data-breach-wvideo/2258411
Data breach sets off charges of theft in '16 Democratic race

http://iowastartingline.com/2015/12/19/sanders-campaigns-reckless-reaction-to-data-breach-is-a-danger-to-all-democrats/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork
Sanders Campaign’s Reckless Reaction To Data Breach Is A Danger To All Democrats

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. We all see who Sanders picked as National Data Director.
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 07:00 AM
Dec 2015

Seems like an excellent choice here. It also appears that Sanders approves.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
13. Pretty much any forensic investigation company
Thu Dec 24, 2015, 10:52 AM
Dec 2015

that might be hired would have done work for organizations people don't like.

Sounds like conspiracy theory stuff to me. Besides, Sanders has approved this choice.

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