2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Hillary is elected she should be properly referred to as "Ms. President" not "Madam President"
Not "Madam President."
Sir and Madam are equivalent titles.
Ms. and Mr. are equivalent titles.
FarPoint
(12,336 posts)That said, I just love the sound of Madam President...
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)that it would be inappropriate to use that term to address a servant of the people as well.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)In the Nov. 10, 1901, edition of The Sunday Republican of Springfield, Mass., tucked away in an item at the bottom of Page 4, an unnamed writer put forth a modest proposal. There is a void in the English language which, with some diffidence, we undertake to fill, the writer began. Every one has been put in an embarrassing position by ignorance of the status of some woman. To call a maiden Mrs. is only a shade worse than to insult a matron with the inferior title Miss. Yet it is not always easy to know the facts.
How to avoid this potential social faux pas? The writer suggested a more comprehensive term which does homage to the sex without expressing any views as to their domestic situation, namely, Ms. With this simple and easy to write title, a tactfully ambiguous compromise between Miss and Mrs., the person concerned can translate it properly according to circumstances. The writer even gave a pronunciation tip: For oral use it might be rendered as Mizz, which would be a close parallel to the practice long universal in many bucolic regions, where a slurred Mis does duty for Miss and Mrs. alike.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/magazine/25FOB-onlanguage-t.html
bowens43
(16,064 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)The precedent has already been set by the use of Madam Secretary.
FarPoint
(12,336 posts)I do like the sound of Madam President... I just do.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Call her what you want.
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)Even Mrs. President is fine.
artislife
(9,497 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)riversedge
(70,187 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)You do it a lot, here.
It's insulting and condescending. You clearly don't deal well with on-line dialogue and have a deaf ear for irony. If you want to be a more successful propagandist, you need to respect the audience and the norms of the media.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)when each was Secretary of State? Albright, as you may know, titled her autobiography "Madam Secretary."
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I would personally prefer something more gender-neutral, along the lines of Comrade, but in the meantime Madam is fine with me.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)era. When a gender neutral word is not available (such as chairperson), then an equivalent should be used.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)This thread reminds me of the one where you told us we weren't allowed to call Glenn Greenwald GG.
Autumn
(45,056 posts)just don't call her President.