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In 2016, Bernie Sanders Will Defeat Clinton and Dominate Trump to Become President (Original Post) lovuian Jan 2016 OP
Nope. And Trump won't be their nominee. H. A. Goodman is a hack. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #1
H.A.G. is a moron. MineralMan Jan 2016 #2
I understand but it was staring me in the eyes lovuian Jan 2016 #3
Your assessment is a bit harsh but he does seem obsessed. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #7
That seems to be your opinion about anyone against Clinton. kristopher Jan 2016 #12
Does it? I don't think so. MineralMan Jan 2016 #14
Of course you don't. kristopher Jan 2016 #17
Rest assured, I don't think your writing is drivel, as your interlocutor implied. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #18
I thought this was that psychic chump again. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #4
Lock and load Swarm! 99Forever Jan 2016 #5
Messenger thumbed through all sorts of info and chose to post this. Sheepshank Jan 2016 #34
H.A. Goodman and Dick Morris couldn't possibly be wrong DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #6
ATTACKING The Messenger Is NOT Does Not Despute Empirically Verifiable FACTS! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #8
Which facts are empirically verifiable? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #10
Far less than you do. kristopher Jan 2016 #13
Cite an example where I cherry picked evidence or withdraw your calumny against me./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #15
The one you just made against Goodman is a great example. nt kristopher Jan 2016 #19
How is suggesting HA Goodman cherry picks evidence evidence of cherry picking evidence? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #24
Post #6 kristopher Jan 2016 #26
How is mentioning in passing that HA Goodman and Dick Morris are both obsessed with Hillary DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #27
As before, the answers are self evident. kristopher Jan 2016 #28
Sir, I am appealing to your better angels. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #30
K and R!!!! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #9
HA HA HA HA HA comradebillyboy Jan 2016 #11
H.A. GOODMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jan 2016 #16
Great Clinton-Logic kristopher Jan 2016 #20
The H.A. Goodman drinking game is fun! MohRokTah Jan 2016 #21
One would have no liver./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #25
I love his position on polling firebrand80 Jan 2016 #22
False claim, but thanks for trying and bumping the thread. kristopher Jan 2016 #29
One of our interlocutors personally attacked you. Don't fret. You are his fifth victim... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #33
...and if Dick Morris says so, it MUST be true. brooklynite Jan 2016 #23
'Cause when H. A. Goodman speaks... ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #31
What, specifically, is objectionable? kristopher Jan 2016 #32
It's all good ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #35

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
3. I understand but it was staring me in the eyes
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jan 2016

this Happy New Year on yahoo ....he's getting plenty of play isn't he

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
12. That seems to be your opinion about anyone against Clinton.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

I can't see where his "drivel" has any less merit than what you post in support of continuing to establish the corporate oligarchy..

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
14. Does it? I don't think so.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jan 2016

I save words like "moron" for particularly egregious writers who bear no resemblance to thinkers.

So, I think you're incorrect. As for my postings here on DU, they are what they are. I do not pretend to be a pundit of national note. I'm just another DUer, posting on a discussion forum.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
17. Of course you don't.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jan 2016

That doesn't change the facts of the matter though. Your angst seems in direct proportion to the writers AntiClinton stance and persuasiveness.

If you are actually what you claim then you'd be able to do more than just call him names - you could point out the long. long, long list of fallacious facts and errors of reason that you SAY you perceive.

You don't because they don't exist.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
18. Rest assured, I don't think your writing is drivel, as your interlocutor implied.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jan 2016

What a nasty thing to say to you.

Keep up the good work, MineralMan. As I said you are our own Mencken.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
5. Lock and load Swarm!
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jan 2016

Shoot the messenger in 3... 2... 1

This damn fact slinger won't stay shot. Really fucking up the Coronation process.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
34. Messenger thumbed through all sorts of info and chose to post this.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

Ownership.

No one forced him to deliver this piece of crap message

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
8. ATTACKING The Messenger Is NOT Does Not Despute Empirically Verifiable FACTS!
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 01:06 PM
Jan 2016

Those who make use of such tactics demonstrate the futility inherent in advocating for a candidate with an unenviable history being hidden by a Corporate/Oligarchy "Controlled" Media.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. How is suggesting HA Goodman cherry picks evidence evidence of cherry picking evidence?
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jan 2016

I will ask you again to withdraw your calumny against me and while you are at it you can withdraw your calumny against my friend, Mineral Man, who you suggested his writing is tantamount to "drivel".

Thank you in advance.

Happy Holidays
DSB

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
26. Post #6
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

As for MM - My point - as stated - was specific to his stance on this topic.

But you didn't really need those clarifications since you are a keen reader and already knew the answers to both claims.

Your attempt to Bully is a Fail.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. How is mentioning in passing that HA Goodman and Dick Morris are both obsessed with Hillary
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

How is mentioning in passing that HA Goodman and Dick Morris are both obsessed with Hillary cherry picking evidence?


Your attempt to Bully is a Fail.


You are verbally bullying me and Mineral Man by casting aspersions on our character and then accusing me of bullying

You suggested I was intellectually dishonest and Mineral Man's posts here are "drivel"




Happy Holidays
DSB


P.S. There are real people with feelings behind their computers who hurt when insulted and disrespected. If you withdraw your calumnies against me and my friend, Mineral Man, we can start the new year on a high note. To grab a metaphor the ball is in your court.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. Sir, I am appealing to your better angels.
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jan 2016
All you are trying to do is trash the thread - we're done.


Sir, you entered this thread after me, suggested I was intellectually dishonest and a bully, and suggested Mineral Man writes "drivel". When I had the temerity to politely ask you to withdraw your calumnies against me and him you insulted and disrespected me some more. Neither Mineral Man or I have said one untoward word to you in our entire exchanges.

As I said there are real people with feelings behind these computers and it would behoove all of to keep that in mind when addressing them. Words like dishonest, bully, and writer of "drivel" hurt.


PEACE
DSB

P.S. It also dawned on me while most of the posters confined their comments to HA Goodman you decided to comment on other posters.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. The H.A. Goodman drinking game is fun!
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jan 2016

Every time somebody posts a bullshit H.A. Goodman article on DU, DRINK!!!!!!

You get drunk most days!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
33. One of our interlocutors personally attacked you. Don't fret. You are his fifth victim...
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jan 2016

One of our interlocutors personally attacked you. Don't fret. You are his fifth victim, just in this thread.


kristopher

(29,798 posts)
32. What, specifically, is objectionable?
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jan 2016
H. A. Goodman
Columnist published in The Cleveland Plain Dealer, The Baltimore Sun, The Hill, Salon, The Jerusalem Post


In 2016, Bernie Sanders Will Defeat Clinton and Dominate Trump to Become President
Posted: 01/01/2016 10:56 am

On November 8, 2016 Bernie Sanders will achieve a dominant victory over Donald Trump. Already, Sanders defeats Trump in the polls by a wider margin than Hillary Clinton, as illustrated in a December 22, 2015 Hill article titled "In blockbuster poll, Sanders destroys Trump by 13 points":
Stop the presses! According to a new poll by Quinnipiac University on Tuesday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) destroys Republican candidate Donald Trump in a general election by 13 percentage points. In this new poll, Sanders has 51 percent to Trump's 38 percent.
If this margin held in a general election, Democrats would almost certainly regain control of the United States Senate and very possibly the House of Representatives.
It is noteworthy that in this Quinnipiac poll, Sanders runs so much stronger than Clinton against Trump...


In the December 22 poll, Bernie Sanders defeats Trump by 13 points, while Clinton beats Trump by 7 points.

There are numerous reasons Bernie Sanders will achieve this dominant victory over a billionaire xenophobe who panders to the fears and base passions of conservatives. First, Bernie Sanders warns against the influence of money and power in politics, and "welcomes the hatred" of the billionaire class that Trump personifies. Sanders won the Congressional Award from the Veterans of Foreign Wars, while Trump insulted Vietnam Veteran and former POW John McCain. There are a great many other reasons that I'll highlight in the future, when Sanders becomes the Democratic nominee. Overall, Bernie Sanders genuinely cares about ending wealth inequality and perpetual wars, while Trump is a buffoon who's spent most of his time making headlines for outrageous statements.

Most importantly, Sanders is the antithesis of Trump and gives voters a stark contrast in choice; not so with Hillary. POLITICO writes that Clinton "received donations from both him and son Donald Trump Jr. on separate occasions in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, according to state and federal disclosure records." You'll never get a Clinton supporter to address these donations, or why Trump once felt it would be advantageous to become one of Clinton's donors.

Trump also gave $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, in either a moment of pure altruism, or another campaign donation akin to Clinton's foreign donor scandal.

While the recent Quinnipiac poll shows Clinton defeating Trump, the underlying data shows that generally, Americans don't trust the former Secretary of State. 59 percent of American voters believe Clinton is "not honest and trustworthy...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/in-2016-bernie-sanders-defeat-clinton-trump_b_8902400.html

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
35. It's all good
Fri Jan 1, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

Don't worry about me--I dont take the guy seriously is all. If you like him that's your business. I Probably shouldn't tease you about him. Have a good day.

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