2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis Photo of Hillary May Surprise You... But It Really Shouldn't
This photo, taken last month in the backyard of an Iowa State Senator, was posted to the official Hillary for Iowa Facebook page on Saturday.
A voter describes the scene:
"It was Hillarys interaction with my kids. We were in Liz Mathis' backyard, and we went up to greet her. I couldnt believe how my seven-year-old was acting with herswinging her arm, hanging on her. He doesnt do that with strangers. I was thinking, 'What are you thinking?! Its Hillary Clinton!'
So as were standing there taking our picture with her, I said: 'We believe in you, and were here with you a hundred percent. What youve done for healthcare, womens issues, childrens issuesand she turned to me, and she put her hands on my kids, Sydnei and Fayde, and she said Im doing it for them.' And I started crying.
As we're walking away, I turn aroundand theres Hillary and Fayde, laughing. She said 'are you ticklish? and he said 'only in my armpits.' Then they were tickling. And he goes, with his tongue out:
'Boo-yah.'
I couldnt believe it."
Linda, Marion
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/18/1434720/-This-Photo-of-Hillary-May-Surprise-You-but-It-Really-Shouldn-t?detail=emailclassic
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 1, 2016, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)
I just watched a reality show he was on he is just the most real Prez of my lifetime
forest444
(5,902 posts)They're just so darn cute!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)is that some complete idiot put a violin (?) on top of a Ludwig timpano. Granted, that Ludwig drum is pretty poor quality but never EVER put anything on a timpano.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)Although I have disagreed with a lot of the ways he went about doing things. I have a pretty good idea that he did the best he could. There is no doubt a tremendous amount of pressure from powers outside his control and from groups he probably did not even know existed that controlled what he did and said. It always seems that the presidents age very fast the first few years in office. It seems that the last couple of years of the 2 terms seem to be the easiest for them.
I hope 2016 is a very peaceful year for our President.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)I always thought she was a wonderful mother to Chelsea. Just like with President Obama, you can see how much they love children.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Reagan. I just don't think he was kid friendly and Nancy was not maternal in my opinion. I think the rest were good. Even Georgie probably was a decent dad especially after quitting drinking.
3catwoman3
(23,950 posts)...seems to have turned out OK.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)My post was not to bash any children at all. Most of the president's kids turned out pretty good.
riversedge
(70,090 posts)SunSeeker
(51,516 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)If you have evidence that the photo was pre-arranged please adduce it. In the alternative I would respectfully ask you take the high road, do the right thing, and withdraw your calumny.
Thank you in advance.
Wishing you a prosperous new year
DSB
secondwind
(16,903 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It appears to me they established a genuine rapport.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Probably the child's mother? The kid seems to be goofing around with the person behind the camera.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)But it means nothing either...
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)Just wondering as I am just about ready to turn 68 this month.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)The skin on the back of my hands look like a satellite map of Mars. That's what they do; no getting around it. Time does what it does. She also may have a touch of arthritis.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)Who knew?.. Ran my left hands through a miter saw a few years ago and got most of it put back together.
But I guess mine aren't that bad after see what HRC's look like with all the money to fix them up. I have veins that the nurse at my doctors office says that she could hit them from across the room. 10% body fat.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)Next to the brain, hands and feet are the most difficult parts of the body to operate on - a lot of small floating bones loosely attached. As for plastic surgery, forget it; the skin has to remain flexible and those Amazon River delta veins aren't going away.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)cadaver skin onto my index finger. The doc did not think I would be able to keep the finger as the cadaver skin rarely stays attached long enough for the tissue to grow under it. I was lucky in that about 2 months before, I decided to lay off my testosterone for a bit. So I was very low when this happened. I did some research and found out that the body heals wounds faster with low testosterone levels. I was just lucky to be someone who had low testosterone level and had to take shots to increase it. So I did not take any shots for a while.
I kept going back to the plastic surgeon and he would look at the graft and look puzzled and tell me to come back in 2 weeks and lefts look again. He finally decided to pull it and take a skin graft from me to fix it 2 1/2 months after putting the cadaver skin on. After surgery he told me he had never seen anyone who had actually grown blood vessels into the cadaver skin.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)Glad it worked out well for you.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)I have always had a guardian angel (or as some of my friends say a guardian demon). Been so close so many times that they tell me that God doesn't want me in heaven and Satan doesn't want me down there. I have been on borrowed time since I was born, so I don't take things very seriously at all any more. Life can be too short to worry about the crap in the world.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)Yesterday is gone; tomorrow may never come. All we have is today, so enjoy and try to do something nice for someone.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)And with a touch of old arthur, she probably wishes she had some Ben-gay right then. That has to be bad with everyone wanting to shake hands.
sarge43
(28,940 posts)how gripping the flesh all day can be a torture even without old arthur.
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)Everything is darker nearer the bottom edge of the photo.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Especially when they belong to the same person with the seemingly wrinkle-free smiling face.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)That politicians get pictures kissing babies or kids do funny things?
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Yet.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)She is at the top of her game and would be hard to beat in a GE.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Oh yeah... Abuela... check.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Despite my gruff demeanor I can be empathetic and a good listener. If you share with me the genesis of your animus maybe we can work through it together.
I am here for you, Bonobo.
Happy New Year
DSB
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I can only conclude that you are projecting anger that you might have felt in a similar situation.
I'm not filled with anything like ire at the momentum is more like puzzlement. That's why I asked the question that puzzles me which I will restate.
Why does this behavior of playing with children rise to the level of import that you have given it by starting an OP on it? There have actually been several OPs lately with pictures of Hillary being "warm". Is this a defensive thing to counter the fact that she is not well liked? If so, I can understand. She is, in fact, not well liked and it will spell trouble in the GE.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)You expressed the fact the photo made you upset by being sarcastic. I posted a photo of Hillary playing with a young child. I regret it rankles you. I also regret that you are implying it rankles me. But rather than get in a pointless debate about who is rankled and who isn't I just want to repeat I am here to help you work through your anger, why? Because empathy is part of being a liberal.
I am here for you, Bonobo. My counsel is yours for free.
Happy Holidays
DSB
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)I don't know what kind of an environment you grew up in, but sarcasm is as natural to me as breathing and is a way of joking as well as a way of critiquing.
What you would have seen in my post, if you were less sanctimonious, would have been a sense of humor rather than "ire" or being upset.
A photo is indeed just a photo, and I am glad you pointed that out because this photo of her interacting with a child does nothing to diminish my view that presidency would result in the death and impoverishment of more of such children than would a Sanders presidency.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Do you make sarcastic remarks to express joy?
Thank you in advance.
Happy New Year
DSB
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Do you think ire and joy represent the entire range of human emotions?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Response to Bonobo (Reply #24)
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floriduck
(2,262 posts)Cameras and touch ups cannot make an eye soar look like a queen.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)-floriduck
n.
Something, such as a distressed building, that is unpleasant or offensive to view.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
eyesore
n
1. something very ugly
Collins English Dictionary Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003
eyesore
n.
something unpleasant to look at.
May I inquire as to who is the eye sore in the photo I posted?
Thank you in advance.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)principle I believe in when it comes to public figures. I hope that helps you understand my mind set.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)If she gets to be President she will have little time to interact with kids, which she is obviously quite good at.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)will be the Fox New headline
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)with all the trimmings
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)I'm sure that is a genuine smile as well. She loves children.
It's a shame she doesn't love them more than her corporate donors and friends.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)not surprised at all.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Thank you in advance.
Happy New Year
DSB
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)I merely stated that is the same smile you see in almost every Hillary picture. A very perfected smile. A photo op smile.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 3, 2016, 09:42 AM - Edit history (1)
-2pooped2pop
Are you actually suggesting, that dissimilar to most other emotionally healthy adults, she only likes wealthy children?
Why would a woman who wrote 'It Takes A village' which is a book on child rearing "not like poor children"?
Why would a woman who worked straight out of law school for the Children's Defense Fund and was honored by them:
CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. Shes brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. Shes an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. Shes done extraordinarily well in everything shes ever done. and Im just so proud of her, said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Childrens Defense Fund.
In a video tribute Clinton, said Its the mission that CDF has stood for that Im proud that I was a small part of promoting We worked hard in the White House. We certainly appreciated the efforts of organizations like CDF kind of, you know, charging ahead.
Hillary Rodham Clinton was with CDF from the beginning. Rodham joined CDF as a young staff attorney right out of law school and knocked on doors to research and help prepare CDFs first landmark report, Children Out of School in America a major catalyst for the enactment of the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, now the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. She became a CDF board member and ultimately board chair until she became First Lady.
- See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#sthash.R747ooCl.dpuf
not like poor children?
What gives you standing to make those conclusions and what would lead you to them?
Thank you in advance for answering my five questions.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)but this was about her smile. Her fake, well practiced, photo op smile.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Do you have evidence to support your assertion that "most wealthy people do NOT care for poor children"?
That being said, may we please confine ourselves to my questions and stay on topic.
You stated you "seriously doubt she (Hillary Clinton) likes poor children." In light of the fact that she authored a book about parenting 'It Takes A Village' and went to work for the Children's Defense Fund right of law school and was awarded for her work:
CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. Shes brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. Shes an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. Shes done extraordinarily well in everything shes ever done. and Im just so proud of her, said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Childrens Defense Fund.
In a video tribute Clinton, said Its the mission that CDF has stood for that Im proud that I was a small part of promoting We worked hard in the White House. We certainly appreciated the efforts of organizations like CDF kind of, you know, charging ahead.
Hillary Rodham Clinton was with CDF from the beginning. Rodham joined CDF as a young staff attorney right out of law school and knocked on doors to research and help prepare CDFs first landmark report, Children Out of School in America a major catalyst for the enactment of the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, now the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. She became a CDF board member and ultimately board chair until she became First Lady.
- See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#sthash.R747ooCl.dpuf
what evidence do you have to support your assertion ?
Thank you in advance.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)look at what the wealthy have bought and how they have tried to dismantle every single program for the poor. As for keeping to topic, just don't answer me and you wont have to worry about it. You are the one that is off topic. I don't need any proof for my opinion either but it's easy enough to prove. Just look around you.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Can you please square this:
-2pooped2pop
with this:
CDF is pleased to recognize Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has been a tireless voice for children. Shes brilliant. She cares deeply about children. She perseveres. Shes an incredibly hard worker, and she stays with it. Shes done extraordinarily well in everything shes ever done. and Im just so proud of her, said Marian Wright Edelman, President of the Childrens Defense Fund.
In a video tribute Clinton, said Its the mission that CDF has stood for that Im proud that I was a small part of promoting We worked hard in the White House. We certainly appreciated the efforts of organizations like CDF kind of, you know, charging ahead.
Hillary Rodham Clinton was with CDF from the beginning. Rodham joined CDF as a young staff attorney right out of law school and knocked on doors to research and help prepare CDFs first landmark report, Children Out of School in America a major catalyst for the enactment of the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, now the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. She became a CDF board member and ultimately board chair until she became First Lady.
- See more at: http://www.childrensdefense.org/newsroom/cdf-in-the-news/press-releases/2013/honoring-hillary-clinton.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/#sthash.R747ooCl.dpuf
As always, thank you in advance.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)thanks
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Wouldn't allaying me of my confusion be the progressive and empathetic thing to do?
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)it won't convince you until you see for yourself that she dooms us to more of the same bullshit that has destroyed this country.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)A simple question from a simple man but first the predicate:
- 2pooped2pop
Why would a woman who doesn't like poor children write a book on child rearing and join the Children's Defense Fund right out of law school and be rewarded for her service?
That would be akin to DemocratSinceBirth not liking animals and becoming a veterinarian who is rewarded for his service by the Humane Society, am I right?
oasis
(49,332 posts)continued contributions to the welfare of children worldwide.
Your handling of negative posters by providing them with mountains of facts is an added educational bonus.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)of your posts to me. I don't want to hear about how wonderful Hillary is because I know better. Good night. Really, find something better to do.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)-2pooped2pop
Less than two lines:
Why would a woman who doesn't like poor children write a book on child rearing and join the Children's Defense Fund and do work for which she wins an award for?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I still don't want her anywhere near our nuclear arsenal, though.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)It doesn't happen.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But I don't elect politicians on whether or not they tickle kids.
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)I want my pres to have a connection... It's weird, I know.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 2, 2016, 02:42 AM - Edit history (1)
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)That is why he wants to save their environment and give them good educational opportunities.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)postatomic
(1,771 posts)rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)She's clearly out to butcher that kid and eat his brains!
Persondem
(1,936 posts)jack_krass
(1,009 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Thanx for kicking my thread.
Happy New Year
DSB
cali
(114,904 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)K and R