There Is One Way To Rid The Party of Debbie...

[berni_mccoy]

VOTE BERNIE!

[daleanime]

1. K&R.....

[betterdemsonly]

2. I agree. Unfortunately Obama chose her and the party

lets the President make that choice.

[Vincardog]

5. HRC is not the way to ensure she is gone in 2017.

[Historic NY]

59. Her term is up then.....

I'm sure Hillary has a person in mind for the job.

[BeanMusical]

69. He sure ain't in it for love.

[-none]

78. I hear Rahm Emanuel may be looking for a job.

[Madmiddle]

10. It shouldn't be his choice to make.

[MeNMyVolt]

16. The leader of the party shouldn't make the choice?

Who should? The oft-heralded The People?

[cui bono]

57. You're mocking The People???

Sheesh.

.

[MeNMyVolt]

61. The way it's used on DU? Damn straight I am.

/lotsofdumbasssmilieshere.

[BeanMusical]

70. How surprising.

[rhett o rick]

87. Yes the People should make the choice. It's the Democratic Party. nm

[lark]

85. Bad choice Obama.

Extremely bad choice.

[bvar22]

93. one bad choice among many bad choices for appointments.

His is the true tale of Obama's Presidency and his political position.
Nobody made him choose Rahm, or DWS, or Eric Holder, or the Cat Food Commission,
or any of his other spectacularly bad appointments to high office, including the Bad Appointments from the Bush Administration he decided to keep on for his administration.

None of the stock excuses or standard dodges work to cover these telling appointments.
None of them are because"He didn't have 60 votes
None of these appointments were made because of Republican Obstructionism.

They are Obama's, and his alone.

Not a single Democrat who voted "NO!" on Bush's Invasion of Iraq was appointed a position of power or authority in his administration.

[lark]

97. Totally agree with all the facts you laid out, Obama has been no progressive.

It amazes me how so many Obama fans hate Hillary when they are virtually the same person as far as their policies and who they'd appoint. Don't get me wrong, I will definitely vote for Bernie in the primary, think he's the best candidate we've ever had that I know of.

Just like I've been very disappointed with quite a bit that Obama has done, I'd expect to equally disapprove of some of the things Clinton would do if she were president. Will I vote for her anyway if she's the general election nominee, absolutely. However corporatist she is, and she definitely is, it's a drop in the bucket compared to the absolute fealty paid to the 1% by the Repugs. i shudder with horror to think of the damage a RW president would do with the SCOTUS alone. At least Hillary wouldn't put another Alito, Scalia, Roberts or Thomas on the bench.

[bvar22]

100. Alito and Roberts were put on the Bench...

...with the help of the Conservative Wing of the Democratic Party.
Neither would have been seated without this help.

SEE: Gang of 14.

[lewebley3]

94. Another way is to stand up to Sander supporters bulling

You go girl: DWS

[brooklynite]

3. ...or Hillary...

...since every President in history has picked a new Party Chair.

BTW -- I'm sure the funny picture really helped get your point across.

[LiberalLovinLug]

9. *shudder*

I can only imagine. I'm sure Rahm would be right up there after he gets shamed out of office in Chicago.

[cui bono]

58. I'd rather see him perp-walked out of office at this point. n/t

[stonecutter357]

77. +1

[rhett o rick]

88. I am sure in the spirit of quid pro quo HRC will give DWS some good appointment.

We need a change from the corruption of our government by big money.

[leftofcool]

4. How about we get rid of Bernie instead..............

Nah! He'll be gone around March 1

[SoLeftIAmRight]

8. "gone" not cool and not true - Bernie will be fighting for you...

long after Hillary stops giving million dollars speeches to the one percent

[Warren DeMontague]

23. I predict the "obsessive, unhinged" hate for Sen. Sanders will evaporate miraculously the next time

we have a nearly tied senate and his vote is the tiebreaker.

[JonLeibowitz]

33. The question I will have is if he is considered a Democrat at that point.

[tblue37]

47. What difference does it make if he calls himself a Dem or not in the Senate, as long as he caucuses

with the Democratic Party and regularly votes with us?

[JonLeibowitz]

48. There is no difference - my question was posed to the Hillary supporters who don't need him now

but would need him later to break tie votes.

[NorthCarolina]

81. Hillary calls herself a Democrat,

and yet she is much closer ideologically to conventional GOP politics. The two party system has become a myth. They are two branches of the same team, playing a highly choreographed version of good-cop bad-cop for the benefit of their corporate benefactors. A show for the public to give them a false sense of a Democratic style Government where none exists.

[AlbertCat]

12. How about we get rid of Bernie instead..............

He's not a problem.... like DWS, ....and even Hillary is. We don't need any president who thinks they deserve to be there.

[Skidmore]

13. Apparently Sanders thinks he should

be there or he wouldn't be running. He is a career politician and he has a schtick.

[AlbertCat]

14. Apparently Sanders thinks he should

Yeah... but he didn't lose last time and doesn't think he "deserves" it.... he's working hard for votes, even with the obstacles Clinton's buddy DWS throws up.

[Skidmore]

15. Nah. He's pretty sure he

deserves it and we are assured he is "the only one" who does. I take it that you don't have any campaign ads in your area.

[Ikonoklast]

76. "He is a career politician and he has a schtick."

No, that's Bill "I Feel Your Pain But Gleefully Sign Legislation That Screws You Working-Class Peons Over " Clinton.

[passiveporcupine]

22. You guys like Debbie don't you?

I think that pretty much says it all about Debbie.

[BlueJazz]

27. Ouch!, I felt that one all the way down here in Florida. Does make you wonder; Why would you want...

...to be associated with someone like Little Debbie.?

[passiveporcupine]

29. The sad part is

They support Debbie because they know Hillary needs Debbie to fight dirty for her. She can't hold her own against Bernie on an even playing field. And I think she's not going to be able to hold her own even with the DNC behind her.

[Plucketeer]

38. Indeed!

It's SO obvious that she's slanted the game table. She needs to go back to dis-serving her district.

[BeanMusical]

71. Don't forget this guy:

Oh and Katy Perry.

[Lizzie Poppet]

50. Because we prefer the party be a LIBERAL one.

Third Way corporatist candidates have the opposite effect.

[Le Taz Hot]

6. Good point!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Hopefully, she'll be voted out of office this year.

Does she have a primary opponent?

[ConservativeDemocrat]

20. The DNC? A primary?!?

Oh brother.

Okay. This is how the DNC works. In most states, Democratic voters vote for a Precinct Committee Person (PCP) or Precinct Captain. These people go to county parties to elect their county chairs and delegates to their State convention. The various State parties then go elect people to serve at the DNC. DNC delegates vote at all DNC meetings, including the Presidential Convention. This is why they're called "Superdelegates".

It is very very very difficult to become an elected superdelegate like this. Each state has only a relative handful, roughly the same number of positions that they have Congressional seats. (There are a few appointed positions too - I'm simplifying.)

Got it so far?

Okay, by tradition, when a new Democratic President manages to get elected, they are given the honor of naming the new DNC chair - and the DNC delegates just vote that nominee in. This is to ensure alignment between the DNC and the new President. That is how Congressmember Schultz became chair. President Obama chose her.

When we don't have a Democratic President, then the chairmanship is open. Howard Dean won simply by being elected by the DNC "super" delegates.

When Hillary is elected President, which she will be, she will choose the next DNC chair. That will almost certainly not be Congressmember Schultz.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

/ sometimes I forget just how uninformed so many of the most popular posters are on the DU.

[Warren DeMontague]

21. She is in the House of Representatives. So she's up for reelection every 2 years.

She could lose her seat to a better Democrat, God Willing.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

24. Wouldn't affect her standing in the DNC one bit

But of course, all the fringe Naderites are welcome to try to primary her. Should be amusing. Unlike the GOP, Democratic voters really don't enjoy, or put up with, the crazy.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Warren DeMontague]

25. so only "fringe naderites" support marijuana legalization?

Tell it to Senator Jeff Merkeley, Rep. Earl Blumenauer, and Lt. Gov Gavin Fucking Newsom.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

32. Only fringe Naderites get mad at the DNC chair...

...and spend most of their time attacking other Democrats.

All because regular Democratic voters aren't backing their candidate like they want them to. Oh, and also, because the DNC Chair is following a debate policy that was set over a decade ago. Which, by the way, is protecting their candidate, because every time he gets in a debate they so badly want him to be in, he gets his clock cleaned by the front runner.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Debbie Wasserman Schultz has done plenty of stupid, criticizeable shit that has nothing to do with

Sanders or the debate Schedule.

She herself has supported Republicans and worked with conservatives (Sheldon Adelson) again, on issues like opposing not just legal marijuana but medical marijuana, both of which are supported by a majority of Democrats.

She's a fucking disaster as DNC chair. If I was a "fringe naderite" who hated our party, I would want her in there, because having her up there echoing Republican talking points on issues our voters care about is one sure way to tarnish our brand.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

42. This is the hallmark of an extremist...

...someone for whom "compromise" is a four letter word.

Rep. Wasserman Schultz, 46, is an outspoken supporter of President Obama’s major programs, including healthcare reform, a balanced approach to deficit reduction and “meaningful” immigration reform that offers a path to legal status for some immigrants.

And yes, she has been able to work with Republicans on things like the Child Protection Act, which increases penalties for the possession of child pornography. How terrible!

In truth, national parties and their chairs, really don't affect elections all that much. Yes, even Howard Dean and his 50-state strategy (which I agree with, by the way), was used when Bush was in his waning days of office, which meant that there was a wind to the backs of all Democrats, no matter what.

Insofar as pot is concerned, the public just takes a while to change its mind, which it is doing right now. Colorado and Oregon are showing that the world isn't ending with legalization, but there are still a lot of people uncomfortable with it. And the way actual progress is made on an issue is through gentle pressure, not gesture-politics and screaming.

So even if you dislike DWS as chair, it's absurd to primary her Congressional race. Try to save your fire for actual Republicans.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[Warren DeMontague]

43. Again, teaming up with Sheldon Adelson to defend arresting sick people for marijuana

is not acceptable, nor is it "mainstream". Nor is it what I would term reasonable "compromise".

We have plenty of people in our party who have their heads screwed on right around these matters, and they are neither fringe nor naderites. They have names like Gavin Newsom, Jeff Merkeley, and Earl Blumenauer.

I'll support who I damn well choose, thank you very much. And if Debbie gets primaried, all the better.

[TransitJohn]

75. Compromise = Republican policy

And has for decades.

[bvar22]

90. Background History on Debbie Waserman Schultz:

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program of the DNC REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.



FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537

The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html

Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly. Now I find that DWS has been PROMOTED from Chair of the Red to Blue Program
to Chair of the DNC. She must be making the "Centrist" Democratic Leadership VERY HAPPY if they are rewarding THIS kind of Party Treason.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama

With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

[ConservativeDemocrat]

92. So some bloggers are mad at Pelosi?

And Wasserman-Schultz by extension?

Because they didn't put any money into races in blood-red districts Democrats could never win anyway? And focusing instead on races that they could win?

Yes, I understand the 50-state strategy. But that's a territory. Care and feeding with very minimal cost of the activist community even among mostly Republican states. It's an entirely different matter to waste millions of dollars on Congressional races you can never win.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[bvar22]

98. When Democratic Party Leadership refuses to endorse DEMOCRATS in their own state,

and instead attends Republican Fundraisers, then there is a BIG problem
whether you can see it or not from your "Reality Based World"

[ConservativeDemocrat]

101. Lying about DWS isn't helping your cause

While it is true that Florida Democrats and Republicans in Congress have a sort of "non-aggression pact" with each other, in that they refuse to directly campaign against each other (although Debbie Wasserman Schultz said it was fine for others to do so), the accusation that she attended campaign fundraisers for Republicans is outright bullshit.

The link you provided was deleted, so I had to use the wayback machine to get a copy of it, and the "attends Republican Fundraisers" wasn't mentioned at all. You made that up entirely out of whole cloth.

So in conclusion, you're either lying, or too stupid to realize that making things up doesn't make them true.

Does anyone honestly think that President Obama would nominate someone to head the DNC who was campaigning for Republicans?

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[bvar22]

99. Well, that definition excludes the Left Wing of the Democratic Party,

...because we have been "compromising" (capitulating) to the Conservative Democrats since 1992,
and never ONCE has the Conservative Wing (DLC, 3rd Way, Clintonites) EVER stepped to The Left.

[ConservativeDemocrat]

102. Are you aware that Hillary Clinton...

...had a more liberal Senate record than Barack Obama?

That's all I'm going to say because flat out, your statement can always be adjusted by moving the goalposts. Any time it's proven false (and it's utterly false), simply call the people who did so non-centrists. Or just fail to acknowledge it.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[dlwickham]

52. the leftists in San Francisco, at least, hate Newsom

I thought he was a half-decent mayor when I lived there

[Warren DeMontague]

53. When I was living in the area I admit he came off to me like a blow dried marina yuppie

But he has come out forcefully on this and before that, marriage equality, and he has earned my respect.

He's certainly more in line with my values system than, say, DiFi is.

[dlwickham]

54. he is a blown dried marina yuppie

as opposed to DiFi who is a blown dried Seaclift matron

[Warren DeMontague]

55. I still think he's one to watch, nationally.

It is indisputable that our party needs some fresh faces on the bench.

[dlwickham]

56. he'll make a great governor

[Lordquinton]

62. "fringe Naderites"

What does that mean?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

89. Anybody who doesn't conform to the establishment's dominance.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. Well, that's encouraging. A 3rd Way, Centrist, will pick the new DNC chair.

Perhaps, to be fair and all, she could pick a Republican. Y'know. Triangulate.

[Duval]

11. That'll do it for sure!

[Cary]

17. It sucks that we have a democracy

We have to have that pesky majority thing.

[world wide wally]

18. She is not good at her job

That should be reason enough

[red dog 1]

37. + 1

Well stated, IMO.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

19. Garlic? A wooden stake? Burning sage?

Would a well drawn pentagon help, with candles?

[jtuck004]

31. Let's say that works. That just unleashes Master's minions, leaderless,

each one a clone. Just because you can make the head disappear in a swirl of black smoke, they will live on well past most of us.

My wife watches the Grimm story book show on broadcast tv, so I know this.

They will come around? No they won't.

"Hearts don't change" < I heard that somewhere.

[demwing]

35. Oour a circle of salt around her

Last edited Thu Jan 7, 2016, 11:23 PM - Edit history (1)

wait, that's for ghosts...

Uhm...Holy Water? Silver?

What would Sammy and Dean do?



Not what you were thinking, eh?

[jtuck004]

41. You know, could be. The ones I am thinking of seem to be able to remold themselves to fit

new opportunities. One never knows...

[dgibby]

80. You forgot Voodoo doll + pins.

Always worked for me.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

82. Where do we get a hair sample?

American Spool & Wire Co.?
3M?
Pioneer Corn?

[saturnsring]

26. wow that pic

[Tarc]

28. Hmm...

Pro-Bernie poster picks a neutral pic of his preferred candidate and sets it against a strangely wide-eyed, upwards-glancing close-up of Wasserman-Schultz.

This sort of subtle misogyny doesn't go unnoticed, y'know...

[MerryBlooms]

30. Jury results:

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[passiveporcupine]

36. I wouldn't say that is one of Bernie's better pics

But I agree, Debbie has been photo-shopped more than any candidate I know (to exaggerate her looks), and this one, while not photo-shopped, is not very complementary.

I don't like to see people using pictures of democrats this way, on a democratic board especially, whether or not they like that person.

Republicans are fair game.

[Warren DeMontague]

49. She gave a bunch of strangely wide-eyed answers in her ny times interview.

Honestly, i doubt whether any bad photo of her could do their incoherent inanity justice.


http://americablog.com/2016/01/debbie-wasserman-schultz-doesnt-get-it.html

[stonecutter357]

74. +1

[red dog 1]

34. K&R

But, unfortunately DWS needs to go NOW!

[elleng]

44. Of COURSE, there's only ONE way,

because we know that Martin O'Malley would reappoint her in a minute!!!

http://www.mediaite.com/online/omalley-takes-aim-at-dnc-chair-debbie-wasserman-schultz/

[ChiciB1]

45. WOW, That's Some Weird Picture Of Her!

Kind of scary... sure hope she's utter here soon!

[Uncle Joe]

46. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, berni_mccoy.

[Tommy2Tone]

51. NIce try with the very unflattering picture of DWS

but..she still looks better than Bernie.

[liskddksil]

60. There's A Direct Way Now - She has a Primary Challenge.

"Too often elected officials represent special interests — not the people. Let's take back our country and restore democracy."

http://timcanova.com/

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/timcanova2016

[slipslidingaway]

63. Done and thanks! nt

[Hulk]

64. I won't give a nickel to the DNC until she is gone.....

Right now the party doesn't listen to any of us, so fook the DNC. My measly $20 isn't going to mean squat to them anyway, but they don't have my support any longer.

[red dog 1]

95. + 1

My sentiments exactly!

[ashling]

65. That picture of Debbie is reminiscent of something, but I'm not sure ...

[Left Coast2020]

66. Absolutely.

And he should hand it to her in person in her office if she hasn't already packed her bags.

My gawd, can you imagine the house cleaning that would take place after his inauguration. All the DLC-turd way crowd would be on the first plane out of dodge.

[-none]

79. Dodge is in Kansas.

Dodge City, Kansas. They'd fit in pretty well in that state. Brownback has done a pretty good job of re-configuring, making it a good fit for the lot of them.

[Enthusiast]

67. Kicked and recommended! This post should have a bazillion of recommendations!

[Betty Karlson]

68. K&R - but I'd rather she resigns before spoiling every primary.

And as for the GE: we need the millennial vote to win back house and senate. DWS is ruining our chances there, with the elitist and outdated views she spews into the public domain.

[BeanMusical]

72. Flush that nasty turd ASAP!

[eridani]

73. I heard that someone is running against her in the primary this year n/t

[Duppers]

83. There sure is ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251982244

[eridani]

96. Excellent! I'll donate when I can n/t

[lark]

84. Voting for Bernie

is going to be so joyful for me. Getting rid of DWS would be the cherry on top of the cupcake.

[Ferd Berfel]

86. Hear Hear !

[in_cog_ni_to]

91. Okay!

DWS is going to be just a bad memory very, very soon! Can't wait!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE