Before you slam Planned Parenthood, try reading why they endorsed Hillary.

[pnwmom]

Wouldn't it be more fair to consider their reasons before you announce you're cutting off their support?

I, for one, think it was brave and inspiring for Hillary to testify in front of Congress on how abortions are an essential part of women's healthcare, knowing that the less controversial choice for an aspiring President would have been not to testify.

Like Bernie.

And while you're at it, you can watch Hillary testify -- and blow some Rethug minds apart.

http://plannedparenthoodaction.org/elections/candidates/president/hillary-clinton/

3 Things You Might Not Know About Hillary Clinton

She introduced 8 pieces of legislation with the purpose of expanding and protecting access to reproductive health care — no other candidate has introduced any.

She's the most outspoken and frequent supporter of Planned Parenthood — and the only candidate to speak up for Planned Parenthood at the debates.

She's the only candidate who has testified before a Congressional committee on how abortion is an essential part of reproductive health care.

Planned Parenthood Action Fund Endorses Hillary Clinton

Our Nation’s Best Presidential Candidate for Reproductive Rights, Hands Down

There’s no question: Hillary Clinton holds the strongest record on reproductive rights of all presidential contenders in not just this election, but in American history. She doesn’t just support women’s health — she has been a proactive leader on expanding access to women’s health care. In fact, no other 2016 candidate has shown such strong, lifelong commitment to the issues Planned Parenthood Action Fund cares about.

We live in an era where access to birth control, abortion, and services at Planned Parenthood are under unprecedented attack. With so much at stake, we can’t afford to have a president who continues these attacks — or who won’t stand strong and fight against them, no matter what.

We need Hillary Clinton, women’s health champion, in the White House.

[randys1]

1. Reminder, if you shop AMAZON, do Smile...then link your local PP to it

[pnwmom]

2. Please tell me more -- I haven't heard of Smile.

[mythology]

27. It's a program where a portion of your order is donated to a charity

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/ch/about


http://imgur.com/a/ai3Rc

[pnwmom]

117. Thanks! Good to know!

[randys1]

106. See the other persons response

[mhatrw]

87. Kid Pro Quo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=986325

[roguevalley]

89. kid pro quo. She sold out PP to a campaign and I am sure her entitled mentality

is twirling that the hoi poloi that support PP are pissed. They don't even understand what they do, they do it so much. I don't want to hear a 'reason'. the true one is clear. I give you the endorsement and you employ my kid. I already have the real reason.

[SusanCalvin]

108. Good one (funny yet infuriating). nt

[tblue37]

88. My Smile account is linked to my local Humane Society. But I have to mention that

you would need to spend about 1$10,000 to make you Smile contributions amount to about $50. I buy a lot of books, but I know that those paltry pennies are not doing much, so I also write a check to the Humane Society as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brady-josephson/why-amazon-is-smiling-and_b_4360405.html

Why Amazon Is Smiling and Charities May Be Losing

{SNIP}

That's a problem because it heavily skews and distorts the consumer's decision making process at charity's expense. Social exchange theory, which has underpinnings in economics, psychology, sociology and philanthropy, proposes that in any transaction there is an exchange between two parties and parties will only enter into that transaction or exchange if the reward outweighs the cost. In the charity world these come into play around what charities can offer back to the donor in exchange for their gift which, absent some nominal "perks," is in the form a tax receipt and a good feeling or "warm glow".

And it's a pretty good feeling at that. Some studies that look at brain activity when people are giving, show similar pleasure circuit patterns to when we eat chocolate, have orgasms or do drugs. Sex, drugs and... philanthropy? Doesn't quite have that same ring to it.

But it's those positive feelings that programs like AmazonSmile are now tapping into as people can buy products, feel good about giving to charity and move on with their lives when in reality only 0.5 percent of their purchase is being given to their cause. So if you wanted to give $50 to a charity you'd have to spend $10,000 through AmazonSmile. $10,000 to Amazon. $50 to charity. It's pretty clear who wins here and I'll give you a hint: It's not the charity {emphasis in original source}.

The problem in this exchange equation isn't necessarily in the reward to the customer, good on you Amazon, but rather in the cost to the consumer. As in there is none. Amazon even says so itself in their description of AmazonSmile:"AmazonSmile is a simple and automatic way for you to support your favorite charitable organization every time you shop, at no cost to you."

{SNIP}

Unfortunately, once people have "given" to a charity through Smile, they tend not to give again to that charity, even though their Smile contribution amounts to very, very little.

[randys1]

107. Agree, I dont assume by using Smile that my donation is taken care of, I knew it had to be very

small

[Thinkingabout]

3. K & R

Hillary has been strong on women's rights and will remain a strong supporter of women's choice and Planned Parenthood.

[litlbilly]

8. You mean like $12 an hour for single moms with kids trying to survive? How healthy is that?

[pnwmom]

10. No salary would be worse. The Princeton researcher whose groundbreaking research

demonstrated for the first time that raising the minimum wouldn't reduce jobs says that the research would only support a raise to $12 an hour. That's why that's the number Hillary is proposing. She didn't pull it out of a hat.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

12. she will tell the employers to "cut it out"

all will be well

[litlbilly]

14. I think you're right

[Thinkingabout]

33. Do you really think Sanders is going to get minimum wage from

$7.25 to $15? That is what he is saying, reality say no.

[litlbilly]

38. Yes...

[Thinkingabout]

40. Then he has had years to get it started and passed, he has been in

Congress since 1991, we have been needing raises, got one, where is the rest.

[Lil Missy]

34. She could instead ask for $15 an hour and get nothing. I'll take the $12.00.

[litlbilly]

48. You people remind me of the saying: 2 people are standing near some tracks arguing about what type

they are. mmm, I think they're bear tracks, no, the other says, I think they're dear tracks, in meantime, they both get run over by the train neither of them saw coming. Bottom line, missing the big picture. America is one messed up place, and not just because of republicans, the bluedogs in many cases are worse because they screw all of us with a nod and a smile while taking the big corporate bribes. You would accept anything even if it sucks for America. Don't give me the bullshit that $12 is ok, its not. I bet none of you Hillary followers have to live on that. Prove me wrong, go ahead.

[CorporatistNation]

59. Like Bernie Is Against Women's Rights?

Desperation Tactics as her campaign is sliding downhill...

[earthside]

4. It's a mistake.

I've always argued that Planned Parenthood is not interested in whether or not a woman who might utilize their services is a Republican, Democrat, Unaffiliated, Green, Socialist, Constitution Party, etc.

This endorsement blows up that moral/political high ground.

I know many moderate Republican women who have been supportive of PP.

This venture into partisan politics jeopardizes a lot.

It's a mistake.

[pnwmom]

6. And those moderate Republican women, faced with a choice between

their clown car this year and Hillary, are probably giving Hillary serious consideration.

[earthside]

15. But that doesn't help PP's reputation.

The damage is done.

Planned Parenthood is now a political organization.

[CreekDog]

110. by endorsing the front runner for the nomination?

by endorsing someone who has been in their corner time and time again? (no disrespect to Bernie)

they've endorsed Democrats in election after election.

[nyabingi]

41. I'm not exactly sure why there

exists those in the Democratic Party still who believe they can somehow win over Republican voters (especially when the potential candidate is named Clinton).

You'll have as much luck with that as you'd have convincing the majority of Black Americans that they should vote Republican.

[baldguy]

92. The constant repetition here that "Bernie can win" relies on Republicans voting for him.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

13. yes - huge blunder

no other conclusion is reasonable

[pennylane100]

5. I do not have to read anything about Planned Parenthood to understand the hypocrisy of their actions

The battle cry of the organization is to ensure that women have the right to choose. Yet their concern for all the Bernie supporters, female and male, to choose the candidate they want to represent them has just been taken from them. I hope the backlash from this action is strong.

I will now donate only to the Bernie campaign until the primaries. I do not want to subsidize any other candidate so I will only give to my candidate and I hope there are many like minded members of DU that will do the same.

[pnwmom]

7. Giving to Planned Parenthood doesn't mean giving to Hillary.

They have a completely separate branch for their political work.

[dsc]

18. so if they were to have endorsed Bernie you would be equally upset?

Have you criticized any organization for having endorsed Bernie? If so, can you please link the post.

[Ed Suspicious]

29. No. I would not have. People. Sometimes they're just so irrational.

[Thinkingabout]

35. I thought this is what the complaining is based, I will just

Overlook future complaining a on PP.

[Ed Suspicious]

36. It was stupid of them to endorse anyone. Would I have cheered a Bernie endorsement? Just like you

cheer a Clinton endorsement. I doesn't make it a smart move politically.

[Thinkingabout]

44. Just as you would have cheered for Sanders, it would have been smart if

They endorsed Sanders but since they did not, it was stupid, no don't think it was.

[kath]

62. Whooooooossssshhhhhh!

[peace13]

86. Wrong to endorse anyone at this time.

That is the point. Would you like to go to the doctor and bring politics into your appointment. I think not.

[pangaia]

101. You did NOT read OR understand what Ed Suspicious wrote!!

MY God!
Go back and read it again.

[SusanCalvin]

39. Yes, I would have been equally upset.

Endorsing in a primary where everyone supports them is stupid.

[pennylane100]

75. I think that organizations that are supported by all democratic groups

should not support any particular candidate until they win their primary. That would apply to Hillary as well. When an organization gets a large part of its support and funding from all democrats, they should honor the wishes of the party members and only support the winning candidate.

[dsc]

94. then no union should endorse

no environmental group should endorse, no group should endorse. I sure as hell don't recall you, or any Bernie supporter getting upset when then nurses endorsed Bernie (for the record I didn't either).

[SusanCalvin]

109. You do have a point, but

I, for one, was also angry at the unions when it was only leadership making the call.

Plus PP is not like a union that represents workers - it is a service organization.

[peace13]

85. I donate to PP and have for years.

I am completely opposed to this organization endorsing a political candidate, especially in a primary election. PP serves people regardless of political affiliation. This will backfire and PP will be sniffing around for donations. Ugly is the word.

[davidpdx]

26. I agree with you

I think it takes away from their purpose which is to support access to health care for BOTH women and men. I used Planned Parenthood's services when I was in my 20's and still to this day I benefit from having had that access.

While endorsing Democrats is great, you would have thought maybe they'd wait until there was a nominee or at least to the point where a particular person was leading by a large margin in the primaries. As of yet there have been no primaries, yet Planned Parenthood still decided to do that. Certainly if PP had endorsed Barack Obama in late March of 2008 before the PA primary, we know that the Clinton supporters would have been up in arms and screaming that they were trying to push Clinton out of the race.

To say Hillary Clinton is the best and only advocate for women on the D side is a outright lie.

Planned Parenthood should be focusing solely on keeping clinics open, retaining their funding and fighting back the right-wing smears against them.

[SusanCalvin]

42. Bingo. nt

[Hortensis]

90. No. They're afraid of losing the presidency to the GOP.

This is a matter of life and death for organizations like theirs. They didn't take this action frivolously. They're fighting for planned parenthood.

[oasis]

98. 100% correct. (eom)

[davidpdx]

99. That is making the dubious claim that Clinton is the only one who can beat the GOP

In fact polls have come out that have shown that Sanders can beat them too. Again, if PP had endorsed someone else whether it had been Sanders or O'Malley I'm sure you would see it differently. Of course we'll never know now.

The endorsement was driven by who the Clinton's were buddy buddy with and as with all her endorsements were probably sealed the day she announced. It's more just more of anointing her the nominee instead of actually electing her.

[Hortensis]

100. Wishful thinking isn't nearly good enough.

This is serious business, not some silly competition over which clique gets to have the table by the window.

[davidpdx]

116. Yes it is serious

There are NO differences in policy between HRC and Sanders on women's issues, except the financial ones. Clinton will sell her fellow women down the river on trade and jobs, two very important issues for women.

[SusanCalvin]

111. Then their judgment is faulty.

I've tried to refrain from the "nya, nya your candidate's going to lose" type of post, but I'm starting to understand the urge.

[mythology]

32. In what possible sense does it take away anybody's ability to choose a candidate?

Are they going to start checking your political preferences when you walk through the door? Are they going to stand in the voting booth to make sure you check Clinton's name?

Of course not. It's ludicrous to claim it impacts any political choice.

[nyabingi]

45. I'm sure Hillary's campaign is lobbying many of these

groups heavily and offering them some sort of incentive to endorse her. I think she's getting that desperate.

[leftofcool]

95. Yea, that will show those damn PP people and the women they help!

[oasis]

9. It would not be inaccurate to say, "America's number one advocate for women

is Hillary Clinton".

[pnwmom]

11. And what could be more inspiring for little girls anywhere than to witness

the election of the first woman ever as President?

Or more gratifying to their grandmothers and great-grandmothers.

When my own grandmother was born, women didn't even have the vote. But we've had it a century now, and Hillary is extremely qualified.

[oasis]

21. Hillary's candidacy and her GE campaign for the White House

is certain to be an inspiration to millions of girls and young women worldwide.

[nyabingi]

50. I think her gender is the only thing she has

going for her at the moment, and it's a crying shame that some people are willing to accept any woman just because she's a woman.

If Black people were looking at it that way right now, most of us would probably be supporting Ben Carson.

I'm all for a female president, but let's choose one with morals at least.

[oasis]

54. You're not giving endorsers credit for doing their homework on the

candidate they choose. Suppose you give us a reason or two on why we should switch to whoever you believe is the better candidate.

[pnwmom]

68. If Democratic women were only choosing based on gender, Fiorina would be 2nd choice.

But she isn't.

Just because you hate Hillary doesn't mean many progressives don't have a lot of reasons to like her.

ontheissues.org, based on her voting record, rates her as "hard core liberal," along with Bernie. He's just a tad to the left of her, and she's left of Joe Biden based on his Senate record.

[pangaia]

102. At the moment inspiring little girls is not my concern, as honorable as it might be.

So at the moment I do not care if the next president is a man or a woman.
The stakes are much too high for that.

My concern is beating the fucking republicans, and in my view Bernie Sanders has a much better chance of doing just that.

[litlbilly]

16. What about single moms with kids and Hillary's $12 and hour min wage. Not so much IMO

[oasis]

17. $12 an hour is a RAISE from the current rate.

[litlbilly]

23. Well isnt that special. Can you live on that? Wrong answer by the way. Go back to whatever oasis

youre dreaming about

[oasis]

25. Thanks, I will. Now excuse me while I return to the thread topic.

[pnwmom]

72. In high cost areas there SHOULD be a $15 minimum. But in low cost areas

the data doesn't support raising it to the same level. Above $12 in low cost areas, there is too much of a risk it will lead to more unemployment.

[pangaia]

103. Oh wow.

[pnwmom]

71. It's more than a 50% rise from the current minimum wage. And it's the level that

is supported by research, not pipe dreams.

The Princeton researcher who first conducted the research that demonstrated that raising the minimum does not reduce jobs, says that his research is only applicable to wages equivalent to $12. (in today's dollars.) Above that, the research does not support it. There is a real risk that raising the minimum all over the country to $15 could raise unemployment -- which is not the intention.

In high cost areas like Seattle, the $15 dollar level is supported by the cost of living. It isn't in small rural towns all over the country.

[Historic NY]

19. They'd rather whine against the endorsement......

[uponit7771]

20. +1

[peace13]

64. Things are political enough without this.

Hope Clinton paid pretty for the endorsement because PP just sold out many contributors. They're going to need it!

[billhicks76]

22. How About Not

The smart people have already moved on from Hillary and endorsement won't matter as we have decided to think for ourselves. Hillary's policies just harm too many people.

[ronnykmarshall]

24. PP is prawn of the right wing

An enumy of The People!

How DARE they not read the online polls of BU and endorse BERNIE?????????

[blackspade]

28. Observing that Planned Parenthood made a mistake with this endorsment is not a slam.

This was a politically foolish endorsement.

[Ed Suspicious]

30. It really was. They should have made no endorsement. At least not yet.

[blackspade]

37. I agree. There should have been no endorsement of any kind.

But, thanks to poor political calculus on the part of the Clinton Campaign for releasing the info early, that damage done has robbed PP of at least a moment to explain their thinking in their own words.

Fuck, this was so short sighted....

[SusanCalvin]

43. Bingo. nt

[DonCoquixote]

31. slamming pp is to cut off our nose

to spite our face, actually it is worse, it jeopardizes the loves of women that are too poor to get what they need to , in some cases, stay alive.

That being said, this was a foolish move because it makes PP an arm of Hillary Clinton, which means it clouds an issue that should be nothing more than medical science.

[SusanCalvin]

47. I'm criticizing their judgment in this matter,

not ceasing to support their primary purpose. Nevertheless, this was a stupid, stupid move.

[DonCoquixote]

84. ditto

and the fact that Debbie made a comment about how Millennials do not understand the importance of keeping Roe Vs. Wade just doubles down on the stupid. DWS is giving the impression that only a certain group of democrats understands the issues, and that Clinton is the only one who can help them. Say what you will about Bernie, but he is not anti-choice, so those who vote for him are NOT going to be anti choice, unlike, sadly, many democrats. I remember when Dennis Kucinich was the arch liberal except for Pro choice.

This move is DWS trying to co opt this issue, because, let's face it, it is one issue Hillary has spoken about and not flipped flopped. However, the issue of abortion needed to become a matter of science and medicine, NOT politics, and especially not one where elections are involved. If they keep slapping Millennial faces too much, then DWS and HRC will wonder how come they have no traction.

[Punkingal]

46. i think they shot themselves in the foot endorsing anyone.

Even if it were Bernie. It will only make the Republicans hate them more than ever.

[SusanCalvin]

49. I can't think of a rationale that could convince me

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that any endorsement, especially at this point, wasn't a stupid move.

Or a move that was just explained to me downthread...

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative

[mike_c]

51. I'm disappointed in their endorsement...

...but that doesn't diminish my support for Planned Parenthood. I'll make my own electoral choices and continue to support PP.

[Dawson Leery]

52. Hillary made the case FOR ABORTION, not just pro-choice.

She had gone beyond what most pro-choice people have argued for.

[quickesst]

53. I have found...

... that it doesn't matter what reasons are given that pp endorsed Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter that endorsing Hillary Clinton will help Planned Parenthood. It doesn't matter that Planned Parenthood has a strong voice championing their cause. They just don't really give a fuck about Planned Parenthood's guaranteed demise under a republican regime. That's just how too many Bernie Sanders supporters roll. For them, Planned Parenthood's work for women's health and it's downfall is a small price to pay if it keeps Hillary out of the White House. We know exactly where they stand, and we know what the main focus of their efforts are. It's undeniable.

[SusanCalvin]

56. Serious question -

"endorsing Hillary Clinton will help Planned Parenthood."

How?

[quickesst]

58. I'll let her...

... Speak for herself.

"I'll take on Republicans or anyone who tries to interfere with women's health. Proud to have @PPact's support in this important election." -H

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 7, 2016

Serious question. Why would they not endorse her?

[SusanCalvin]

60. Because they've never done so before in a primary,

And why do so in a Democratic primary where we can assume everyone supports them?

Granted, I'm unlikely to take it out on them in a tangible way, but I am angry and I do think it was a stupid move. And I did express that to them.

Edited to add - oh, you mean help them with *Hillary*. But of course. That only means much if she's elected, though....

(I generally don't stoop to snark, but the more I think about this endorsement, the angrier it makes me.)

Ah, so. Just had it explained to me downthread.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative

Well, maybe they don't need *my* money. Hope it holds if Hillary's not nominated/elected.

(As I said, the more I think about this, the angrier it makes me.)

[quickesst]

91. Had planned Parenthood endorsed Bernie.......

.... and this is not directed to you personally, I believe you know as well as I do that it would have been Hillary's supporters suffering the slings and arrows of the more outspoken among Bernie's supporters. This time, it just happened to go Hillarys way. I believe that when everything is said and done, Planned Parenthood will be fine as long as there is a Democrat in the White House. Because of the work they do , this is one organization that should be funded by our government . It is well deserved. Their biggest threat will come from the right. That's why I am among those who will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. And it's okay to be angry at times. It is only disheartening when that anger turns vicious.

[SusanCalvin]

112. Oh, I hate to think

What things would have been like here if PP had endorsed Bernie.

Fortunately, I have that group hidden and am banned, so I would only have seen what made Greatest (I'm disappointed that's not hidden) and wouldn't have been able to wade in and get myself in trouble.



(I completely agree with the rest of your post as well.)

[quickesst]

115. You're a good person...

... SusanCalvin. Right back at you.

[Gothmog]

55. Great videos-thanks for posting

I love the video on your post and the video the link

[Tennis Magnet]

57. They lost me the minute they endorsed Clinton

in the PRIMARIES. They had no reason to endorse this early. You can thank the CGI's tentacles for those.

Should have waited in the GE to endorse.

Just a humble opinion.

[SusanCalvin]

61. Bingo.

I'm still saying I won't take it out on them money-wise, but I am very, very angry.

What, please, is a CGI?

On edit - nevermind and ah, so.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative

[pnwmom]

69. There was an EXCELLENT reason. They want the strongest candidate

to represent the Dems in the general. And that person, in their educated opinion, is Hillary.

[Punkingal]

70. Or maybe this helped them decide:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251986325

[oasis]

73. With the recent GOP attacks on PP, they had to act now

to choose the Democrat most likely to win the White House. That would be Hillary.

[SusanCalvin]

78. That makes no sense at all.

Any Democratic candidate would support them. Why chance making the rank-and-file (like me) very, very angry?

[oasis]

81. PP doesn't need "any Democrat", they need the one who'll win the WH.

Planned Parenthood has been under GOP attack for months. They will need the presidential bully pulpit going forward. They can't afford to roll the dice on Bernie and risk having Cruz or Trump become president.

[SusanCalvin]

114. I don't want them to "roll the dice" on Bernie or anyone else.

But they *are* rolling the dice on Hillary. She is not guaranteed the nomination, no matter how much PP and DWS get behind her and push.

[ismnotwasm]

97. As opposed to the rank and file like myself? I'm very, very happy.

And sent them an immediate donation to make up for the temper tantrums I've been reading about.

[pnwmom]

118. Not any Democrat could win in the General. And it is their opinion

that HRC is a stronger candidate against the Rethugs, despite what Bernie supporters have convinced themselves.

[SusanCalvin]

119. Which then brings up the question

Did they think the possible help to HRC would outweigh the backlash? Or was the backlash a total surprise to them?

Well, I'm not privy to the contents of their brains, and I'm about done with this topic, myself.

[pangaia]

105. Well, they are wrong.

[peace13]

80. Yes.

PP serves women of all races, religions and political parties. This announcement is certainly divisive. If I'm for or against Clinton is not the issue here. I would be disgusted either way.

[peace13]

63. I don't need to read anything.

What I also don't have to do is reach for my wallet when they call me. I hope they have arranged for financing with Clinton because I will not be doing it in the near future!

[SusanCalvin]

66. Well, perhaps they have....

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative

Hope it holds if she's not elected.

[peace13]

74. Hope they got it in writing.

PP brought the politics into the mix. They will have to work this out on their own!

[SusanCalvin]

76. "Hope they got it in writing."

[leftofcool]

96. Good for you. The women PP helps will appreciate it.

[Punkingal]

65. They need to be slammed....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251986325

[SusanCalvin]

67. Oh dear.

I can't believe Ann would approve.

[m-lekktor]

83. yep THIS is why they endorsed Hillary. nt

[progressoid]

77. Well, this part is bullshit, "no other candidate has introduced any."

She introduced 8 pieces of legislation with the purpose of expanding and protecting access to reproductive health care — no other candidate has introduced any.

That's weird since much of the legislation "she introduced" was co-sponsored by Bernie Sanders.

-Sanders co-sponsored the Freedom of Choice Act

-Sanders co-sponsored for emergency contraception for rape victims

-Sanders co-sponsored providing emergency contraception at military facilities

-Sanders co-sponsored Women's Health Protection Act

-Sanders co-sponsored protecting the reproductive rights of women

-Sanders co-sponsored ensuring access to and funding for contraception

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Abortion.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm

[pnwmom]

79. Was he one of dozens who co-sponsored bills she wrote, or was he

an equal partner in writing it? I'm asking -- I don't know.

[progressoid]

82. This one was a Reid bill

34 co-sponsors including Hillary and Bernie
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SN00021:@@@P

Could only find two she sponsored.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN03945:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02916:

May be more out there, but I gotta sleep.

[djean111]

93. I am not slamming them. I just don't think it is any reason at all to support Hillary instead of

Bernie.

[Betty Karlson]

104. DWS and PP must not be criticised for discrediting themselves on behalf of Clinton.

Because of you criticise anyone who is in the tank for some quid-pro-quo Clinton Third Way stuff, you are sexist!

[Hekate]

113. KnR