2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhere did the "Bernie doesn't care about 'getting things done' " meme even START?
If the guy didn't want to "get things done", why would he ever have run for office in the first place?
And if he'd never gotten anything done, why would anyone ever have voted to re-elect him?
Fact is, until the Dems were back in a majority, HRC didn't get a damn thing done in the Senate(other than giving Dubbikins the chance to murder at least 500,000 Iraqis).
The big difference between Bernie and HRC is this:
Bernie gets it that no Democratic president will be able to get anything done until we build a mass movement to crush corporate rule. If we don't do that, we can never undo the gerrymandering in the state legislatures, until we can undo the gerrymandering in the state legislatures we have no chance of breaking Tea Party/Koch control of Congress, and until we break Tea Party/Koch control of Congress, no progressive, pro-people legislation can ever get passed into law.
HRC, by contrast, has made it clear throughout her career by her deeds that she thinks that it's worth settling for the trivial tinkering 'round the edges of the edges that the 1% will grudgingly tolerate. She clearly believes that, in general that it is the natural order of things for the 1% to set the limits of the possible, and that the few should have a veto over the dreams of the many. And she will always be perfectly comfortable acting as the enforcer of the limits the powerful impose on us from above.
Knowing that, which of those people do YOU think actually cares about "getting things done"?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)
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Pauldg47
(640 posts).... Bernie's list will be longer and will have more substance. Don't blabber your shit.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Hillary does not stand against corporate greed and rule. The fact is, Hillary has built her entire career and fortune on corporate greed and rule.
She will not fight to correct the core problems within the system. Taking a few slivers off of the edges won't fix a damn thing.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)anything, vote for a 'pragmatist' who'll get things done" bullshit. Except the so-called pragmatist is rarely interested in even trying to do a lot of the things the fringe candidate is willing to fight for, even when there's public support for supposedly "fringe" positions.
So really, the question isn't "who actually cares about getting things done"? I think both candidates care about getting something done. The real question is what does each candidate want to get done, and how important are those things to you? Because if the things candidate A wants to do aren't what you want, or are maybe even the opposite of what you want, you're better off voting some other candidate who will really try to do the things you want. Maybe they'll succeed, maybe they won't, but at least they'll be out there swinging for the fences.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)a list of a hundred stupid things to post about, and "Bernie doesn't get things done..." was on the list.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)He addressed the important issues with the Federal Reserve ...