Endorsement results in "defunding" of Planned Parenthood

[kenn3d]

Former Planned Parenthood donors are now sending their money to Bernie Sanders
http://samuel-warde.com/2016/01/massive-online-backlash-after-planned-parenthood-endorses-hillary-clinton/

[Segami]

1. Go Bernie!

[one_voice]

4. Indeed screw all those poor...

women that use planned parenthood.

I use poor in the most literal sense.

Whoo-hoo score one for Bernie! I'm sure he'd be pleased as punch. You know income inequality and all...

[progressoid]

5. PP isn't the only game in town.

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

[Dale Neiburg]

21. That takes care of 3% of PP's business. (n/t)

[sufrommich]

26. Fund Abortion Now is a small org without the means to offer

women the same services PP does.This is the worse thing I've seen democratic candidate supporters do,ever. Sick.

[BainsBane]

64. It is the only game in many states

The only place where women can receive reproductive services in great swaths of this country. That is a fact. Caring about that, however, would mean those women's lives actually matter. It has been made quite clear, however, that the only thing that matters is Bernie's political career. There is scarcely a leftist organization or cause that hasn't been thrown overboard. First Black Lives Matter, then one union after another, now NARAL and Planned Parenthood.
It's interesting how many entrants on that enemies list are also targeted by the GOP.

[RandySF]

98. PP provides MANY more services than that.

[roguevalley]

13. yeah, screw people giving their money to others because the organization they thought they could

trust is corrupt. Nothing like supporting corruption. How is it that they don't give a shit about the people -those in charge of PP- and they get a pass from a lot of people here with the comment WELL, THINK ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE NOT GETTING STUFF! when they were the f-ers that did this to themselves. They are so corrupt at a certain level in this country they can't see that the limb they are sawing off with their bullshit is the one they're sitting on. Spare me outrage they brought on and don't give a shit about anyway.

[RandySF]

53. I know

Anyone who doesn't supporters your guy is corrupt.

[comradebillyboy]

91. and a member of the oligarchy too

[Proserpina]

82. I feel your pain...it's just too nuanced for the Queen's courtiers

Reality-based, logical reactions are something they just can't handle...because there can't be any other way than Her Way, 3rd way (what about the other two ways, hmm?).

She bought that endorsement, fair and square! How DARE we contest her slightest details in her grand scheme of things?

The fastest, surest, longest-lasting way to help for the poor and dispossessed in this country is to elect Bernie Sanders as President and have his followers in the 99% fill Congress with supporters of his revolution. This we must do, for ourselves and generations to come.

[one_voice]

85. Yes sir...

so those women should pay the price for the fucked up decision? We're not smarter than that? How about shining a light on this, via the news, internet, etc. Shame them. Make them **have** to answer. There are ways to handle this without making the women that depend on Planned Parenthood suffer.

Planned Parenthood won't suffer, the women that depend on them will. Why in the world would any liberal make them suffer for something they didn't do. I don't understand this. I understand the anger. I don't making them pay.

I'm not supporting corruption. I'm saying find another way. Find a way that doesn't impact the women that NEED & DEPEND on the services.

[geek tragedy]

89. Just donate to the healthcare-providing PP instead of its PAC that endorsed Clinton. nt

[mhatrw]

19. Kid Pro Quo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=986325

[99Forever]

55. It's THEIR money to use as THEY decide.

Planned Parenthood fucked up and chose nepotism over democracy. No problem. The donations PP thought they were entitled to, they aren't, any more than the corporate establishment's chosen candidate is entitled to our vote or support.

Enough is enough, we're DONE with you.

#FeeltheBern

[one_voice]

65. Of course it's their money..

they should what they wish with it. I never said otherwise.

It's MY OPINION and I shall speak it where ever & when ever I wish. You're quite right, enough is enough. Time to stop taking anger out on people that didn't have anything to do with what caused it. I will not apologize for calling people out that want to make vulnerable people suffer because THEIR damn feelings were hurt.

There's another group of people of that wants Planned Parenthood defunded as well. Who don't give a shit about the poor women that use their services. That are all about satisfying their itch. Look whose company you keep.

we're DONE with you.

I have no idea what this means ^^^ done with me? What does that mean?

Who is done with me?

Now you're talking out of turn. You're making assumptions about me. Par for the course though....

[99Forever]

67. Take your gripes up with those that CHOSE to speak out of turn...

... and let THEIR use of nepotism to feather their OWN nests, instead of just being decent and honest and waiting until AFTER the primaries as they ALWAYS have in the past to endorse a candidate.

In case in your tone deafness you haven't noticed, it pisses people off when you presume they are too stupid to see when they are getting screwed by establishment cronies. I'd suggest you wake up and smell the Revolution.

[one_voice]

83. Speak out of turn?

What the heck does that mean?

I'm pretty sure I didn't say people didn't have a right to be pissed. I'm pretty sure what I said was that it should be taken out on the same people that your so called revolution is about.

So how's about you read what I actually wrote and stop putting words in my mouth & assuming shit about me. Cuz you know what they say about people that assume. It pisses me off when people presume shit about me.

For the record, I'm able to do two things at once, care about the people you're so joyfully cutting off and be pissed.

I'm not willing to go back hangers & back alleys to prove a point. Apparently you are. So you go on with your revolution...that's nothing I want any part of.

I'm an O'Malley supporter. If he's not our nominee I will have to choose between Hillary and Bernie....way to represent.

[Cassiopeia]

81. Maybe PP leadership should have put the needs of the poor

and women above political aspirations.

PP turned their patients into political pawns, not their donors.

[questionseverything]

104. this is what bothers me the most

surely ms richards would of known what a backlash this would cause between democratic supporters

did she decide hc's campaign was more important than all of us...evidently so

or even worse ,she is such a child of privilege that she does not know the millions of us are out here

[HerbChestnut]

2. Part of me is disappointed this is happeninng to PP

But the other part of me is saying, "Well, that's what you get." I wish they hadn't endorsed anybody. All of the dem candidates are excellent on women's issues.

[Punkingal]

3. I felt that way, too, until this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251986325

[HerbChestnut]

8. Yeah I saw that

It's a text book example of how Hillary operates.

[bvf]

12. No surprise there.

Thanks for this nugget.

[Betty Karlson]

56. Stinking corruption. Thanks for the link. n/t

[earthside]

54. Planned Parenthood made a mistake.

By making a political endorsement they've opened themselves up for even more questions and suspicion from the public.

This is a strategic error bigger than the presidential campaign of 2016 -- endorsing a partisan candidate makes them legitimately open to deeper scrutiny and attacks from those who question and/or oppose government funding for Planned Parenthood.

PP will have to accept the consequences -- that is real life -- I am hesitant to make further contributions right now if this is the way the political action committee wants to behave. Sanders, Clinton, O'Malley are all good on choice and reproductive issues; to choose one over the other speaks to deeper problems at PP.

The momentum is shifting to Sanders ... the only redeeming thing for PP is that Sanders is the type of quality individual who will not hold PP's error against them after he is elected President.

On the other hand, Planned Parenthood will have to labor for years and years with the charge of being a partisan political organization now.

[Betty Karlson]

57. Excellent analysis.

What could possibly be gained for PP as a whole to give Clinton a quick lift that may not even change one primary result?

[Autumn]

80. Truth right there. Hillary is no better on womens issues than Bernie or O'Malley

and that they chose to do this now after Hillary's 'hire' instead of waiting until the nominee is chosen after their long history really disgusts me. They have always remained above the fray. This was a blunder of epic proportions.

[oasis]

6. Riiiight. That'll show 'em.

Meanwhile , Hillary's donors will more than make up for the short fall needed to fend off the future GOP attacks on Planned Parenthood.

[Fuddnik]

18. How? By donating to the Clinton Foundation?

[Kelvin Mace]

7. I am sorry they chose sides,

but we don't need to punish innocent women for the sins of management.

[HerbChestnut]

9. People have a right to do with their money what they please.

I agree with you, but PP made a bad decision here.

[eridani]

10. Clinton found the fake video "disturbing"

That is an absolutely gutless approach to defending reproductive rights.

[2pooped2pop]

11. don't fret it

People are just showing their opinion on their political action in the only terms understood anymore- money. I'm sure financial supporters of pp will get back with their support soon and pp will have learned that they should not let themselves be bought.

Like someone else said; they should not have endorsed until after the primaries. Perhaps when they get rid of whoever decided to put them up for sale, things will get back to normal.

[roguevalley]

14. If Komen sucked and got slagged for what they did, this is no different. The 1% are learning finally

who really is boss now.

[HERVEPA]

40. It is way different than Komen. There is no logic in your argument.

I say this as a Bernie supporter, a long-time PP volunteer escort, and someone who is pissed off about the endorsement.

[murielm99]

15. I am going to double

my annual donation to PP.

Go Hillary!

[oasis]

16. That's the spirit.

[Bobbie Jo]

58. So am I...

So is my daughter, so are several of my coworkers.

In fact, I took care of it last night. This petulant exhibition is disgraceful.

[Fuddnik]

17. Who needs Republicans? They figured out how to defund themselves!

Clinton Incorporated is painting themselves into a corner with this shit. And taking down a lot of good people with them.

[PDittie]

20. Planned Parenthood is going to have

another really terrible year, it appears. So many self-inflicted wounds (yes, I'm saying they looked ghoulish in the sting videos).

[Dale Neiburg]

22. I'm going to be increasing my contributions to PP

and I'm a Sanders supporter.

[NurseJackie]

23. That's the spirit! ...

[Alfresco]

24. Despicable!

I am noticing similar behaviors of Trump and some of Sanders supporters.

[sufrommich]

25. That's really sick. I donate monthly to PP and there's absolutely

nothing they would ever do to stop me from doing that.Millions of women rely on PP,many of them are poor and wouldn't be able to afford the care they get without donations to PP.Throwing them away in a temper tantrum blows my mind. Bernie's army sure has a lot of childish assholes.

[quickesst]

29. "Bernie's army sure has a lot of childish assholes."

They are taking their ball and going home. When it comes to hurting Hillary Clinton, everything else takes a backseat.

[Starry Messenger]

45. +1

[geek tragedy]

70. Those claiming to withhold their funds are not real Sanders supporters, but rather

the "burn the witch" types.

[Hekate]

72. +1,000

[brooklynite]

27. Talk about ignorant...

Planned Parenthood's reproductive health program is separate from the Planned Parenthood Action Fund, the political arm which made the endorsement. But I'm sure anyone who loses access to services will understand the confusion.


Actually, I'm pretty sure there's been no actually cutback in funding notwithstanding what a blog I've never heard of before says.

[sufrommich]

30. That doesn't matter to me,they think they're hurting PP and

doing it anyway.Of course,they justify it by imagining that this whole huge org moved to support Clinton because Ann Richards granddaughter works for her. If you thought Sanders support was top heavy with males before,my guess is you ain't seen nothing yet.

[leftofcool]

28. How idiotic! The rest of us will triple our donations.

[BlueMTexpat]

31. Absolutely!

I also suspect that many "defunders" never supported PP in the first place.

[NurseJackie]

32. Under the Bus! Revenge! Payback! Boycott! Start supporting PP's competitors instead!

Uh, wait, uh... well, uh... hang on...

[JustAnotherGen]

34. +1000

[Motown_Johnny]

36. Maybe Clinton supporters should try to make up the slack.

Or are they not the ones donating to PP to begin with?



I guess we know which camp really is good for women's health and which one isn't.

[dsc]

43. any proof of that

any at fucking all.

[comradebillyboy]

92. And it is the Hillary camp that's for women's health. Bernie may have

a fine message on wealth inequality but I haven't heard him say anything about his positions on family planning or reproductive rights. Bashing wall street doesn't address those important matters.

[Alfresco]

33. What has Bernie to say about his supporters behavior? Democrats want to know.

[Motown_Johnny]

35. People don't have the right to donate to whom they wish?

I think you are missing the fact that Sanders' supporters were the ones donating to PP in the first place.

A better question is why Hillary supporters are not increasing their donations to PP. Or couldn't you think of that one?

[sufrommich]

38. God,what a ridiculous reply. Absolutely no one

said you don't have a right to donate to anyone. You can donate to Right To Life if you want,that would really show 'em!

[Alfresco]

39. How do you think Bernie feels about these attacks on PP? You think he would support them?

[Autumn]

101. I support a persons right to chose just as I hope Bernie would.

What a wonderful thing is freedom of choice here. Making the choice not to donate, oe to donate to any organization is a choice we all have. I learned that very early in life as a child of proud Democrats. Are you saying that Democrats have to follow their leader??? Most Democrats are Democrats because they are smart and capable of thought not lemmings. As a woman, as a Democrat I would never in a fucking million years behave as any politicians told me to, that's for republicans. Fuck that shit.

[Motown_Johnny]

37. No different than when union leaders decide to endorse Clinton and members object.

The pattern is clear.

[still_one]

41. I give to PP, and will continue to give to PP because they provide a vital service to women in need.

That some folks seemed so bent out of shape by this speaks volumes.

What would have been the response if PP came out and endorsed Bernie Sanders?

For me it wouldn't matter, I would still donate

I would also congratulate Sanders and his supporters on the endorsement.

Interesting, the pettiness of some folks

[dsc]

44. yeah fuck the women whose lives are saved by PP

all because they had the audacity to not agree with them on politics.

[still_one]

46. yup, that is what they are effectively saying

[bigwillq]

42. What do folks care about endorsements?

Seems silly to "defund" an organization that helps so many people because they didn't endorse one's candidate.

I post very little in endorsement threads because endorsements mean little to me.

[immoderate]

47. This is hard to believe.

--imm

[Tom Rinaldo]

48. No one who believes in Plannd Parenthood's mission should withold funds over this

Having said that, foolish or not, people are people and some people tend to over react and not always respond appropriately. That is true regardless of the issue or of who one supports for political office. Some blow back could have been predicted. I too wish Planned Parenthood had not endorsed among our Democratic candidates before a single vote was cast since all of our candidates are strongly supportive of the work that they do. By not waiting until the General Election they made their endorsement a political rather than an issue based act. To support the Democratic candidate against the Republican candidate is a clear recognition of which Party lines up with them on the issues. To support one Democrat against other Democrats who also line up with them on the issues primarily (pun intended)makes it an overtly partisan and political statement. That is not the type of positioning of Planned Parenthood that is in the long term interests of PP (obviously in my opinion).

[Kentonio]

69. Exactly.

[GeorgeGist]

49. Ooooooooo ...

Some nobody,s blog has nothing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. The lives of our sisters and mothers is not a political football.

SIGH

[TCJ70]

59. It is now that PP threw the ball, unfortunately...n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. I can not in good conscience ...

I can not in good conscience withdraw my support and jeopardize the health of American women over a political endorsement, the lion's share of whom had nothing to do with the decision. That would be as wrong as withdrawing support over an edited video.

[Kentonio]

73. Completely agree. That doesn't change the fact though that this was a very bad decision by PP.

[TCJ70]

99. I don't think anyone should withdraw their support either. That doesn't mean...

...that this was a good move by PP or that people can't be upset by it.

[Alfresco]

51. Bernie needs to make a public statement and tell his supporters to chill out.

I doubt he will but one can hope.

[leftofcool]

63. He won't. Since when does he care about PP?

[comradebillyboy]

93. I have never heard Bernie even mention PP

Maybe PP endorsed Hillary because she has been an advocate and loyal supporter for decades.

[Alfresco]

112. Now that you mention it, I never have either. Hmm..

[Proserpina]

86. That's Obama's job...he's the Chill Out Leader

[RandySF]

52. Yay

A few people are petty enough to withhold donations to help women because PP endorsed a woman. Hooray for them!!!

[LexVegas]

61. That will show those uppity women. nt

[BainsBane]

62. At least we see what people really care about

The notion that one politician's career takes precedence over the work done by an organization that has provided reproductive services for women for 100 years is astounding. Clearly, none of our lives could possibly compare to the far more important goal of one man's political success. Women and girls could be be denied reproductive healthcare, birth control, cancer screenings and abortion. That could affect generations of families. Yet none of that is nearly as important as Bernie's career.

[JoePhilly]

66. So now Bernie supporters are throwing PP under the bus!!!

Such good liberals they are.

[geek tragedy]

71. Not all of us, just the hateful assholes who are pretending to be Sanders supporters

but whose real motivation is a fierce, burning hatred of all things Clinton.

[JoePhilly]

74. I think you are right.

I figured some folks would be unhappy about that endorsement, but I was still surprised by the attacks which have followed it.

[geek tragedy]

75. Nihilists, dude, nihilists. nt

[JoePhilly]

78. yup ...

... its that segment who seems to think the US economy has to be destroyed, so that their version of Utopia rises from the ashes.

[Hekate]

76. You put your finger right on it, geek. They are doing terrible damage to all things progressive...

...and hiding behind Sanders to do it.

[geek tragedy]

79. I doubt most of them were donors to begin with, just hateful losers making noise nt

[geek tragedy]

68. if people care more about their butthurt primary feelings than helping poor women they're likely

not very progressive, nor are they people who share Bernie Sanders's values

This is really appalling.

[Hekate]

77. +1

[comradebillyboy]

94. Indeed, by the fruits of their labor shall you know them...

[CrispyQ]

84. Sanders supporter here & I think an endorsement was a big blunder for PP,

but, I will NEVER pull my support from PP. I don't think Bernie would want us to, either. Just sayin'. And yeah, yeah, I've heard the argument that Bernie's Single Payer, or Medicare for all will eliminate the need for PP, but what about now?

[bigtree]

87. so, Bernie's now providing the reproductive and family planning services

...that those supporters of his are threatening?

[in_cog_ni_to]

88. Obviously, endorsing HRH was more imporant to PP than helping

women. They knew the backlash they would get. This is the first time in 100 years they've endorsed a candidate. There's a reason they chose to do this now during one of the most contentious primaries ever . It's unfortunate they will lose funding, but they did it to themselves knowing full well what would happen.

PROGRESSIVE women can just donate to Bernie who is far better on women's rights/issues than HRH ever has been and OTHER organizations that offer the same services as PP. They aren't the only game in town. Hey, HRH got her endorsement! That's all that matters, right? That's what's important here, right?

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[leftofcool]

95. Yea, that'll show those poor women with breast cancer a thing or two!

Ya'll go for it! With hold those funds!

[in_cog_ni_to]

97. http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

Like I said, they aren't the only game in town.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

http://www.fundabortionnow.org/

[leftofcool]

109. Yea, I put my zip code in and they take me right to PP

They don't have clinics, no breast screenings and at my age I don't need a free abortion

[tammywammy]

111. Planned Parenthood does a lot more than just abortions. n/t

[Zorra]

90. No surprise. PP lost the trust of many anti-corporatists, just like the unions,

legislators, and other organizations who have endorsed the candidate for Dem nomination who is, unquestionably, preferred over Bernie by a majority of banksters and the 1%.

[Doctor_J]

96. Hillary should not have bought this endorsement. another ham handed gaffe.

She just can't seem to play fair. As for those who cancelled their donations, I can see their point. Pp has never before made such an endorsement, then Hillary hires ms Richards, then Clinton gets their first ever endorsement. It just smacks of entitlement. "An endorsement from pp would be nice. I'll just go ahead and buy one". Very bad optics. Low class.

[vkkv]

100. My guess is this post would have been booted off of the "Hillary Group" in

less time than it takes to say "We worship only Hillary Rodham Clinton".

[tularetom]

102. No problem, they're going to get a big fat check from the Clinton Foundation

[mwrguy]

103. Using poor women's healthcare as a hostage is fucking sick

And that is exactly what these "defunders" are doing.

No different than when the fundies do it.

[UglyGreed]

105. People are sick of

cronyism..........

[Beacool]

106. Meh, they can shove their money.

If Republicans weren't able to destroy Planned Parenthood, neither will some disgruntled Sanders' supporters.

[leftofcool]

110. Exactly!

[Alfresco]

107. Has Bernie denounced this yet?

[Hiraeth]

108. If we had single payer we wouldn't need donation funded PP.