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Reposted here with permission of my fellow blogger itaest at Immizen.com
At the doctor's office: watching Fox News with a right-winger
By Ita Est
I seem to encounter Republicans a bit more often than I would like to and that although 90% of my friends are Democrats and my salary is nowhere near that of a 1%er.
Today I was at the doctors office where they had a TV with the Fox News channel on. I was thinking about asking the receptionist to change the channel, but before I could say anything, this guy (white guy in his forties) blurted out something in reference to the (of course, biased) coverage of Romneys campaign with images of a bunch of women hugging and giving handshakes to Romney:
And they say he has no support among women!
He glanced at me when he said that so I replied: They had to pay these women to show up
He let out a sarcastic laugh and replied: Im sure they also pay the women to appear at Obamas rallies
No, I said, They dont need to. We love Obama!
He was dumbstruck for a moment.
He: Oh, you are one of those
I did not say anything. But I was thinking. Little wheels turning in my head
I thought this was an opportunity to engage the other side in a discussion in which he would hear things he would never hear on Fox News.
Me: We like Obama because for a politician he is quite honest. At the national convention he
He interrupted me with an angry laugh: Honest? Haha! He is the most dishonest..
I also interrupted him: At the convention he admitted he made mistakes and that hell work hard to get the economy in better shape but that it takes time
He tried to interrupt me again but I went all Bill OReilly on him and just elevated my voice and kept talking.
Me: Politicians usually dont admit to mistakes. Romney will just say whatever someone wants to hear
He: Oh really, if Obama is honest, then why wont he release his college records, his transcripts?
That surprised me. I had not heard of that conspiracy theory. But I knew who invented it. It sounded awfully familiar to another one.
Me: Because nobody cares about it, only the Tea Party cares about that stuff.
He seemed taken aback for a moment, then laughed with a sarcastic laugh: I dont like Romney but he is much better than Obama, Obama sucks, look at where we are now
Me: Obama saved us from the recession that Bush caused. We are much better off than in 2008 when millions of people were losing or about to lose their jobs
He: Yeah, always blame it on Bush. Obama has been in office for almost 4 years, what has he done?
Me: As I said, he saved us from the Bush recession. He implemented the health care reform act. The US is creating jobs again and the stock market is at its highest level in nearly 5 years. We are moving in the right direction
The guy did not look happy. He seemed ready to explode and having a hard time controlling himself.
He finally blurted out: Well just wait, if he gets reelected you are in for a big surprise! Its all downhill after that. You will regret it.
Since I figured his Fox News trained brain can only process so much information, I remained silent and let him have the last word.
Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)I know I become too angry and that works against me.
Tom Poll Master
(26 posts)I think John Stewart had the best line - the right-wing Obama is an invisible Obama that only they can see
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)I like to speak to Americans when I visited in the winter in Florida the last 3 winters. One stop in North Carolina was to get an oil change...I sat in the waiting room and people were talking and one man asked where I was from.
I said Canada...We got to talking....And then got on to health care. One man said he took his wife up to Toronto to get a special health treatment that she can get only there. He was impressed with the health care. I told him about my younger son and husband both being treated for Cancer at the same time...and how all the treatments were not billed.
He was pretty flabbergasted. and we then discussed Canadian money how the bills were different colors. I also pointed out the bills were now being printed in braille.
I am proud to be Canadian.
And on another note..any time I was down in the USA and the TV was on Fox...I asked for the channel to be changed.
Most times it was.
This winter I will be going to England where my older son lives now. Time to explore different lands.
Tom Poll Master
(26 posts)There are Americans who will listen and learn. Anyways, we are happy to have you visit. I also go up north skiing sometimes.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)After telling the folks in charge why my dollars are going elsewhere.
I told the folks at a major hospital in Tucson essentially the same thing. Fux is unacceptable. They changed the channel for the entire hospital.
Fuck teabags and while you are at it, don't give them any money. It's the "free market" after all.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)Bush's handlers are STILL blaming shi* on Carter and Clinton ...
I remember Gerald Freakin' Ford claiming that the economy of the late 90s was due to HIS policies ...
RainbowUnicorn
(35 posts)Seriously, we don't need made up stories to win the election.
Tom Poll Master
(26 posts)We've known each other for years. And we even have a Right-leaning blogger lurking in our blog and you can see how she debates him in her comments:
http://immizen.com/2012/09/13/a-republican-friend-nostalgic-for-the-nixon-era-of-regulations-will-vote-for-obama/