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pa28

(6,145 posts)
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:01 PM Jan 2016

ABC: Bernie Sanders' Popularity Making Hillary Clinton Campaign 'Nervous'

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-popularity-making-hillary-clinton-campaign-nervous/story?id=36187078

Asked about whether their increased engagement with Sanders is a sign they're concerned about Sanders, Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said: "Republicans are trying to rip away the progress we have made on issue after issue, and we are making clear that Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to take them on and get things done."

But the Sanders campaign has taken it as a sign of worries.

"See the new Fox poll that had Bernie up a lot in New Hampshire? No wonder they're in attack mode," Sanders communications director Michael Briggs said in a statement. "Secretary Clinton and her team are getting nervous and nasty because the so-called inevitable nominee anointed by the establishment eight months ago doesn't look so inevitable anymore."


More at the link . . .

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-popularity-making-hillary-clinton-campaign-nervous/story?id=36187078
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ABC: Bernie Sanders' Popularity Making Hillary Clinton Campaign 'Nervous' (Original Post) pa28 Jan 2016 OP
So says Briggs. He wishes Hillary was nervous leftofcool Jan 2016 #1
Wow, you got a comment in two minutes. Some are in denial of the ever growing rhett o rick Jan 2016 #11
my daughters friend here in Colorado has been walking for Hillary in Iowa SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #12
Just FYI we all have to work hard to win, no matter who the nominee is. Agschmid Jan 2016 #63
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #2
K&R and off to the Greatests with you! /nt demwing Jan 2016 #3
A post speculating goes to the "Greatest"? George II Jan 2016 #23
Why yes it does. Autumn Jan 2016 #25
Thanks for joining in the discussion, Autumn. George II Jan 2016 #28
You're welcome George. I do enjoy posting on a snowy cold day. Autumn Jan 2016 #33
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #4
Yep. tecelote Jan 2016 #5
The UK Labour leadership election had so many parallels. pa28 Jan 2016 #10
'Can't wait until you post this about Bernie! tecelote Jan 2016 #14
That campaign has been nervous for quite sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #6
"Panic" is the descriptor I would use Proserpina Jan 2016 #31
Hillary Got the support of the Union executives boards, INdemo Jan 2016 #87
Almost on the mark... Plucketeer Jan 2016 #91
Clinton campaign has LOTS of troubles and Bernie stands to benifit from them FreakinDJ Jan 2016 #7
Absolutely. Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #82
2nd that. And GOTV! K & R appalachiablue Jan 2016 #84
If she doesn't go to states she is arrogant and expects to win Godhumor Jan 2016 #8
It's not that she's visiting Iowa and NH HerbChestnut Jan 2016 #15
She has the calm confidence of a winner. Laser102 Jan 2016 #85
Of note in the article... Punkingal Jan 2016 #9
Yup, quite likely. Duppers Jan 2016 #20
Ocf course he is. pangaia Jan 2016 #32
The person who claims they're nervous is the Sanders comm director and ABC uses that headline?!? Metric System Jan 2016 #13
The person who used the word "nervous" was Clinton's campaign manager. pa28 Jan 2016 #16
Of course she's nervous; just look at the last 4 weeks' of polling in Iowa and New Hampshire: Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #17
The poll in NH showing Bernie up by double digits seems to have triggered some concern. pa28 Jan 2016 #19
True dat. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #43
Those are "customized" charts - here are the REAL charts: George II Jan 2016 #26
Considering the initial difference in name recognition, SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #38
Who has plateaued in IA? thereismore Jan 2016 #45
Big money might not be enough. zeemike Jan 2016 #57
I've noticed. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #79
I Remain Concerned About Clinton Inc. Buses! Bringing in RINGERS To Skew The "Process" CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #80
This is a PERFECT example of how Camp Weathervane answers direct questions. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #18
Must be where her supporters get it from, that's how they answer direct questions too. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2016 #22
Really? Old Codger Jan 2016 #24
I really hate politically correct weathervane-speak PatrickforO Jan 2016 #36
Not your headline, you have to use it, but it is totally misleading. George II Jan 2016 #21
Now George the article does point out where the nervous part came from. Autumn Jan 2016 #30
No, the story is not speculating. It's quoting Hillary's campaign manager. pa28 Jan 2016 #35
Strange, why would you support her? Android3.14 Jan 2016 #60
If Hillary's Campaign had a flagpole, it's be flying this: Proserpina Jan 2016 #27
gale pennant? quoddy woman Jan 2016 #71
His comm staff are a bunch of clowns. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #29
You seem tense. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #51
!!!! LiberalElite Jan 2016 #83
Beware, it's the calm before the BERN!!!! SmittynMo Jan 2016 #34
As I have said before, the last time a candidate lost in Iowa and NH Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #37
That was before the take down of Glass-Steagall. Bill is going around to bring everybody up to DhhD Jan 2016 #39
And now is after the passage of Dodd Frank. Glass Stegall would Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #41
Is this the Dodd-Frank bill passed in 2010 before Frank retired ish of the hammer Jan 2016 #44
It was after the passage of CFMA which played a big part in the financial crisis. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #54
bill clinton was decades ago. I don't think the conditions that prevail now are remotely connected. roguevalley Jan 2016 #69
Yes, Clinton signed a veto proof bill of which Sanders voted yea. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #70
After he lobbied his owwn party to vote for it. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #72
I don't see Sanders excuse for voting for CFMA, Bill Clinton is not running Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #90
Third way Dodd Frank. With Glass Stegall there would have been no build up of risky swaps. DhhD Jan 2016 #47
Glass Stegall will not provide the regulations needed. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #50
I it is solo unimportant, why fight it? sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #59
It only did protect us for 70 years. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #73
Why go back to a bill which would not have prevented the financial crisis? Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #74
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #40
That's a possibility. The polls would indicate so, and I expect the Vegas Odds reflect the same. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #52
Harkin made Iowa irrelevant that year virtualobserver Jan 2016 #77
Nice to see some media attention Babel_17 Jan 2016 #42
The fact ABC news covered this is as noteworthy than the story itself IMO. pa28 Jan 2016 #46
I think it's also about seeing it as "ratings worthy"* Babel_17 Jan 2016 #48
Ya think! bobGandolf Jan 2016 #49
Im sure they'll be helped by DWS insulting Millennials and defending filling prisons with pot users Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #53
As it Should Gawdless Pinko Lib Jan 2016 #55
Pelosi already called her the party's nominee, as have her flacks on DU MisterP Jan 2016 #86
Subject line : nervous Sent by :Hillary for America -Robby Mook Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #56
Sacré bleu pa28 Jan 2016 #58
Pretty much Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #67
Yup, I got that one, and my answer was: sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #62
Lol Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #66
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz......... brooklynite Jan 2016 #68
Yep asking for $1 hootinholler Jan 2016 #88
I got 6 requests for $$ from HRC in 7 days after the glitch weknowvino2 Jan 2016 #76
k & r chervilant Jan 2016 #61
924 comments at the link, Babel_17 Jan 2016 #64
She should be nervous. nt artislife Jan 2016 #65
Not so inevitable anymore - and soon not so annointed anymore either! eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #75
I wonder if it is beginning to feel like groundhog day? abakan Jan 2016 #78
Or perhaps she studied the mistakes of 2008 and won't make them again. brooklynite Jan 2016 #89
This quote: 99Forever Jan 2016 #81
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. Wow, you got a comment in two minutes. Some are in denial of the ever growing
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jan 2016

popularity of Sen Sanders. But I think they are in denial about a lot of things. Like if you support the wealthy 1% and think that they might give us some cake (maybe some social justice gains). The greed of the wealthy have stripped the lower 99% of much of our wealth and resources and yet some want to let them continue.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
12. my daughters friend here in Colorado has been walking for Hillary in Iowa
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

had a great visit during the holidays - could not convert her to the Sanders team

She made it clear that they are worried and knew that they had to work very hard to win

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
5. Yep.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jan 2016

"...the so-called inevitable nominee anointed the establishment eight months ago doesn't look so inevitable anymore."

Bernie is going to win.

America loves the underdog. Especially the one fighting the oligarchy.

Will Wall Street like Bernie Sanders as President. Bernie answers... No!

No one else speaks truth to power.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
10. The UK Labour leadership election had so many parallels.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

The establishment candidates first thought Jeremy Corbyn was a joke with no possibility of winning, then they called him an extremist out of touch old socialist, and smeared him with outlandish charges with the help of a compliant media. Sound familiar?

He wound up winning the actual referendum by a landslide despite conventional wisdom and best efforts of party elites.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
14. 'Can't wait until you post this about Bernie!
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jan 2016

"He wound up winning the actual referendum by a landslide despite the conventional wisdom and best efforts of party elites."

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
6. That campaign has been nervous for quite
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jan 2016

some time. One reason for them to get the support
from unions and other organizations early, which normally
have waited for the nomination before their endorsements.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
31. "Panic" is the descriptor I would use
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016

as it is the only one that would explain all the political miscalculations going on since Thanksgiving.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
87. Hillary Got the support of the Union executives boards,
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

Not necessarily the general membership of those unions.
Speaking for my union where the executive board in Washington endorsed Hillary I can guarantee you the local members overwhelmingly support Bernie Sanders.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
91. Almost on the mark...
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

" One reason for them to get the support
from unions and other organizations early"

I'd write that: One reason for them to get the support of union LEADERS and other organization's REPRESENTATIVES early on. And the REASON this happened was because the DNC told these organizations that "the fix was in" for the chosen one. And as a consequence, she'd look unbeatable from any angle. That's what happens when you take the people for granted.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
82. Absolutely.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jan 2016

Like millennials who can't be polled in the old 1980's polling methodolgy that is still being used today for Hillary. Millennials will show up and win this for Bernie. And the HRC camp knows this.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
8. If she doesn't go to states she is arrogant and expects to win
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

If she does it is because she is nervous.

Or maybe just maybe she is, you know, campaigning.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
15. It's not that she's visiting Iowa and NH
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

It's that she's started calling out Bernie by name and has really gone after him this week. This is in stark contrast to her older strategy of basically ignoring him, and it comes at a time when polls are tightening in the first two states and Bernie is creeping up nationally.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
9. Of note in the article...
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

"In addition, the Clinton campaign has launched Bill Clinton out on the trail this week. On Wednesday, he's expected to go back to New Hampshire where he'll be holding campaign events exclusively near the Vermont border -– a part of the state where Sanders signs are very prevalent."

I have been wondering if Bill wasn't out on the trail because of Bernie, not Trump.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
16. The person who used the word "nervous" was Clinton's campaign manager.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016
The most blatant sign came earlier this week when Clinton's campaign manager Robby Mook sent a fundraising email to supporters with the subject line "nervous."

"There's a situation developing in Iowa and New Hampshire that could change the course of this election," Mook wrote in the e-mail, noting that Sanders' campaign is outspending Clinton in TV ads in the two early states.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
17. Of course she's nervous; just look at the last 4 weeks' of polling in Iowa and New Hampshire:
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

The polling in Iowa shows the race tightening dramatically (all polls except robo-call polls):



And New Hampshire looks even better (again, all polls except robo-call polls):

pa28

(6,145 posts)
19. The poll in NH showing Bernie up by double digits seems to have triggered some concern.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jan 2016

And by "concern" I mean outright nastiness. At least here at DU.

When I happened to notice the divisive attacks appealing to race and sex in GD P earlier in the week I suspected Bernie might have some favorable polling numbers coming out. The two things go hand in hand so often.

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Those are "customized" charts - here are the REAL charts:
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

Huge difference between "customized" and reality.



SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
38. Considering the initial difference in name recognition,
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jan 2016

And the fact that it ain't February yet, it still looks pretty good to me. Thanks for posting.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
80. I Remain Concerned About Clinton Inc. Buses! Bringing in RINGERS To Skew The "Process"
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

In an Obamalike way... Remember the IPOD giveaways to the kids bussed in from ChiTown in 2008? CHEATING SHOULD BE ANTICIPATED AND EXPECTED BY THE Clinton Incorporated Team!!!! We need some burly pipe fitters there to prevent a theft of Democracy... by anyone, however my most acute concern is with The Establishment "Annointee!"

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
18. This is a PERFECT example of how Camp Weathervane answers direct questions.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

From the link:

"Asked about whether their increased engagement with Sanders is a sign they're concerned about Sanders, Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said: "Republicans are trying to rip away the progress we have made on issue after issue, and we are making clear that Hillary Clinton is the best candidate to take them on and get things done."

PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
36. I really hate politically correct weathervane-speak
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016

You feel like your face is being pushed thru mush.

You know, I get tons of emails from all kinds of Dem candidates wanting money, and my favorite are surveys where they try and set an innocuous agenda palatable to Wall Street but that still looks progressive, and allow you to pick ONE of them. Then, the one that voters pick the most becomes that politician's 'priority' that s/he supposedly works on.

That is just one of the ways the establishing is still trying to control the message.

But they don't control the message. We do.

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Not your headline, you have to use it, but it is totally misleading.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

Sanders' campaign is speculating that they're nervous, and then proceeds to go on the attack. And he doesn't specify either how the Clinton campaign is in attack mode or how they're getting nasty.

My suspicion is that the Sanders campaign is getting nervous because Clinton has closed the gap in New Hampshire and is now in a statistical dead heat.

Autumn

(45,012 posts)
30. Now George the article does point out where the nervous part came from.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016
The most blatant sign came earlier this week when Clinton's campaign manager Robby Mook sent a fundraising email to supporters with the subject line "nervous."
Sounds like the campaign manager may be nervous unless Robby Mook is "fibbing" to get donations.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
35. No, the story is not speculating. It's quoting Hillary's campaign manager.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jan 2016
The most blatant sign came earlier this week when Clinton's campaign manager Robby Mook sent a fundraising email to supporters with the subject line "nervous."

"There's a situation developing in Iowa and New Hampshire that could change the course of this election," Mook wrote in the e-mail, noting that Sanders' campaign is outspending Clinton in TV ads in the two early states.


The speculation comes in when Bernie's spox connects divisive attacks from the Clinton campaign to good polling numbers for Bernie Sanders. I can't really say that I blame him because I've noticed those two things are often associated.
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
60. Strange, why would you support her?
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

Do you want a living wage?
Do you disagree with the Iraq War vote?
Do you think corporate money should have a zero influence on our elections?
Do you really think it is ridiculous to pay bribes by paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a pop for a speech?

The "we have to elect her because she is the only one who can win" argument is dead. Why would you support someone like her when we have the opportunity for someone like Bernie Sanders?

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
27. If Hillary's Campaign had a flagpole, it's be flying this:
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jan 2016






and the famous weather vane would be gone with the wind....

quoddy woman

(38 posts)
71. gale pennant?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jan 2016

The red triangle used to mean small craft warnings. Growing up on the coast of Maine I thought it meant nice day. They don't fly it anymore. Has the meaning changed too?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
37. As I have said before, the last time a candidate lost in Iowa and NH
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016

He came back to win the nomination and the GE against an incumbent, his name is Bill Clinton.there are going to be more than two states participating in primary elections, Hillary will be the nominee.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
39. That was before the take down of Glass-Steagall. Bill is going around to bring everybody up to
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jan 2016

date that Hillary will be going to the debates on her financial plan by saying to the Republican, "Cut that out," after he signed off on our pensions, mortgages, 401-Ks and taxpayer money in the US Treasury, in 1998.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
41. And now is after the passage of Dodd Frank. Glass Stegall would
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

Not have prevented the financial crisis of 2008 and with the passage of CFMA which helped create the financial crisis.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
54. It was after the passage of CFMA which played a big part in the financial crisis.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jan 2016

Dodd Frank was passed in July 2010, Sanders was at a lobbyists meeting in February 2010 which included bank lobbyists.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
72. After he lobbied his owwn party to vote for it.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:53 AM
Jan 2016

You realize that a President CAN veto a bill with a veto-proof majority, and work to keep Congress from overriding it?

Excuses, excuses.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
73. It only did protect us for 70 years.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jan 2016

I remember the fight.

They sold it as a modern convenience. One stop shopping for Banking, investments and insurance. All of that was kept separate for a reason, and it worked. It STILL would work.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
74. Why go back to a bill which would not have prevented the financial crisis?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:21 AM
Jan 2016

We have experienced a crisis, know Glass Stegall was not enough, we need to enhance Dodd Frank which is not seventy years old and work forward.

Gore1FL

(21,116 posts)
52. That's a possibility. The polls would indicate so, and I expect the Vegas Odds reflect the same.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jan 2016

The interesting thing in these things is momentum, firewalls, and how events are reacted to, what the media focuses on. what social media does, etc.

She and her 2016 campaign has learned from the 2008 run. The questions I have are "how much?" and "what?"

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
42. Nice to see some media attention
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jan 2016

Hopefully it will be clear that the public has an appetite for coverage of the Sanders campaign.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
46. The fact ABC news covered this is as noteworthy than the story itself IMO.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jan 2016

They can't continue pretending Hillary is running unopposed in the face of current polling.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
48. I think it's also about seeing it as "ratings worthy"*
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

The news has a mercenary sensibility when it comes to coverage.

*or "click bait worthy", depending on the medium.

bobGandolf

(871 posts)
49. Ya think!
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jan 2016

They should make her nervous. The question now is, "Why has the Clinton camp decided to let that information slip out to the public?"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
53. Im sure they'll be helped by DWS insulting Millennials and defending filling prisons with pot users
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jan 2016

Or something.

 
55. As it Should
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry to say, but Hillary seems every bit as complacent about the nomination as she was 8 years ago.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
86. Pelosi already called her the party's nominee, as have her flacks on DU
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jan 2016

they really aren't running a primary--they just expected a Bill Bradley or maybe even a Biden, not someone who cuts right to all the tangled issues we face today

pa28

(6,145 posts)
58. Sacré bleu
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016


In all honesty that letter was just about fundraising but I think we all know now that it's a real fight. Nobody is inevitable and I suspect Mook is seeing this when he looks in the mirror.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
62. Yup, I got that one, and my answer was:
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

"Did you get my e-mail from that "glitch"?

Never have been approached again.

weknowvino2

(62 posts)
76. I got 6 requests for $$ from HRC in 7 days after the glitch
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

I wrote back that every time I get asked for $$ from them, I will donate $10.00 to Bernie.
Guess What? They mysteriously stopped contacting me!
YOW!

abakan

(1,818 posts)
78. I wonder if it is beginning to feel like groundhog day?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

Mrs. Clinton has been here before. She was the anointed one in 2012, and oops, the upstart Obama took it away from her.
She must want it badly to go through this again.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
81. This quote:
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:55 PM
Jan 2016
"Secretary Clinton and her team are getting nervous and nasty because the so-called inevitable nominee anointed by the establishment eight months ago doesn't look so inevitable anymore."

Says it all.

Feel the Bern.
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