Maybe Bernie's controversial views on cervical cancer caused Planned Parenthood to endorse Hillary?

[Cali_Democrat]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-once-blamed-cervical-cancer-on-a-lack-of-orgasms/

Bernie Sanders Once Blamed Cervical Cancer on a Lack of Orgasms

The New York Times ran a frontpage investigative report on Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders‘ early political history on July 4th. But buried in the piece is the bizarre fact that Sanders once questioned whether or not cancer– and cervical cancer in particular– was caused by a lack of orgasms.

<...>

"Mr. Sanders contributed only sporadically… He cited studies claiming that cancer could be caused by psychological factors such as unresolved hostility toward one’s mother, a tendency to bury aggression beneath a “facade of pleasantness” and having too few orgasms. “Sexual adjustment seemed to be very poor in those with cancer of the cervix,” he wrote, quoting a study in a journal called Psychosomatic Medicine.

This should go without saying, but there is no evidence that orgasms have anything to do with cancer or cervical cancer.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-once-blamed-cervical-cancer-on-a-lack-of-orgasms/

[morningfog]

1. Great work gumshoe!

[EdwardBernays]

2. I'm reminded

Of how Hillary voted for the Iraq war because she believed bombing women and children was a cure for dictatorship.

Obviously it's not.

Live and learn I guess.

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Two plus two is four. nt

[HerbChestnut]

16. Cali for the love of Pete

That article is about something he wrote over 40 years ago citing scientific literature just as old, if not older. Look, we all know you support Hillary, but this thread is just nonsense.

[Thinkingabout]

45. Have you ever seen an article about Hillary being a Goldwater girl and Republican,

just a little update, this was over 50 years ago. Hillary was not even old enough to vote. Sanders was of age, maybe misinformed but he was of age.

[2pooped2pop]

51. yep. n/t

[morningfog]

60. Do they actually support Hillary or just hate Bernie?

Seems it's just the latter to me.

[bigwillq]

29. Congrats on 500 posts!

[artislife]

35. She does seem to have little regard for brown children around the globe...nt

My brother's girlfriend works to get the border children out of purgatory and safely with relatives here in the country. Hillary ain't their abuela, that's for sure.

[cheapdate]

3. Sounds legit. I vaguely remember this. Thought it was odd.

[Autumn]

4. Saw nothing about that here

https://twitter.com/PPact/status/661609560667394048

[LexVegas]

5. Thats disturbing. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

6. Back for more with this canard? Ya'll seem desperate.

You don't act like front runners.

[emulatorloo]

8. No

[sadoldgirl]

9. Oh, you are such a delightful and generous person!

Thank you for the newest of your flame baits!

You don't know how seriously I will take your
OPs from now on!

[Art_from_Ark]

17. The only way to take pablum

is with many grains of salt

[uponit7771]

10. hmmm

[sadoldgirl]

11. Oh, sorry dearrie, I forgot to ask

How old are you? Never mind,
grown-ups are such a nuisance.

[litlbilly]

12. Trashed...

[Hiraeth]

62. yep ... taking out the trash. then reading what quality is left.

I just love the smell of desperation in the morning

[litlbilly]

69. Me too:)

[KingFlorez]

13. Probably not

Sanders didn't get endorsed in 2012 for Senate by Planned Parenthood, so it's probably more about what sort of connection he has to PP overall.

[Paulie]

73. Connections, likely yes

Doesn't look like it's policy: https://twitter.com/PPact/status/661609560667394048

[catnhatnh]

14. So if I read your outrage correctly

44 years ago Sanders wrote a piece quoting research from a medical magazine that has since been debunked......

[George II]

19. Okay, so how long ago was Hillary Clinton (as an adolescent) a "Goldwater Girl"?

[jeff47]

36. How about a far more relevant question, like how long ago she backed "regime change"

'Course "We came, we saw, he died, hahaha" doesn't tell the story you'd like.

[George II]

38. Is that the topic we're discussing? The subject is Sanders' view of the cause of cervical cancer.

Thanks for dropping in for a comment, Jeff47

[jeff47]

40. It's as relevant as you bringing "Goldwater girl" to the thread. (nt)

[George II]

41. How? Are you trying to goad me into a hide?

[jeff47]

42. Nope, that's your shtick.

I'm quite content to let everyone see your posts. Lets more people learn just what kind of person you are.

Oh, and if you want to claim it's not your shtick, you probably shouldn't brag about it on a message board.

[George II]

44. .

[cherokeeprogressive]

53. "Okay so how long ago was Hillary Clinton..." LOL!

Wait... what were we discussing again?

[Thinkingabout]

47. How can the article Sanders wrote thirty years ago be debunked?

[MADem]

59. That's not all. He wrote some pretty flaky stuff.

This is the tip of the iceberg. He never had much in the way of jobs before he started collecting government paychecks. His best friend called him a "shitty carpenter."

He was paid five cents a word, or whatever, and he wrote a lot of this junk, and he put his NAME on it.

There's lots out there, and there's more where that came from.

44 years ago, he wasn't a child. He was a full grown adult WITH a child. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some of those writings did influence PP.

[underthematrix]

15. This is hilarious. I laughed til I cried

It's not the details so much as what it reveals about Bernie's understanding of and relationships with women. Equipment problem? not enough, not working

Priceless

[George II]

18. Could have been a big factor, his abject lack of understanding of women's issues.

[geek tragedy]

20. Not content to be positive about the PP endorsement? nt

[Douglas Carpenter]

21. how many decades ago was this?

[Eric J in MN]

25. 1972 is the only year the NY Times article gives

...for one of Bernie Sanders articles' in "The Freemen."

So probably over 4 decades ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/us/politics/bernie-sanderss-revolutionary-roots-were-nurtured-in-60s-vermont.html?_r=0

[Douglas Carpenter]

27. so he wrote that admittedly strange article about 43-44 years ago?

[Eric J in MN]

31. Yes. NT

NT

[jeff47]

37. He also cited medical literature from the time.

It was wrong, but it also wasn't something he made up.

[Hekate]

22. My own mother (1924-2007) used to believe shit like that, so blamed herself for ...

...her cancer of the lady-parts. It was just amazing the kind of stuff that got offloaded on women in the 20th century in the name of Science. Science that was conducted almost exclusively by men, I might add.

We now know better. I would say that between her cigarette smoking and possibly a case of HPV from her one sexual partner, there's a damn good chance her cancer was not caused by all the genuine anger she kept behind a "pleasant facade."

I'd like to give Bernie a chance to say he's learned better by now, 2016.

[jeff47]

33. He did years ago. The OP didn't quite bring that up, since it would hurt her attack. (nt)

[Sunlei]

23. more likely the RW anti-Mrs. Clinton attacks mixed with years of Republican PP attacks.

even Romney threatened PP years ago.

[seabeyond]

24. Ah... he goes to the standard, blame the mom, too. Isn't that nifty. Give it up girls, mom's fault.

[pa28]

26. Or maybe you've scraped through the metal at the bottom of the barrel.

Now what?

[Purveyor]

28. Oh there is a whiff of desperation in the air, indeed...

[artislife]

39. The more they hit the volume at 11 the happier I get

Hillary is going down!

They are scurrying and scurrying!

[bvf]

54. May I have 10,000 marbles, please?

http://m.

[artislife]

55. Hee!

[philly_bob]

30. Please post link to article Sanders referred to in Psychosomatic Medicine. /nt

[winter is coming]

65. Why would you expect there to be an online version of a medical article from the 70s? n/t

[philly_bob]

75. Foolishly, I thought that OP had some source.

OP and the comments that support it are a waste of DU time.

[jeff47]

32. THE MEME MUST NOT DIE!!!!

Planned Parenthood endorsed Sanders because of guns, not enough black people in his pictures, stories from 40 years ago, only caring about economics, and just how terrible Sanders supporters are.

Did I miss any?

[Triana]

34. So, is the belief that chances of prostate cancer are reduced by daily orgasm silly, too?

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/guide/sex-and-health?page=2

[Warren DeMontague]

58. lemme know if you ever get an answer.

[Triana]

74. None yet . . .

[artislife]

43. The best thing about this OP?

California won't decide anything.

I get to caucus, and I am going to caucus hard. Do you all remember the tears from the h camp in 2008 when all those mean Obama supporters came in and fought their way through the caucuses? It is gonna be deja vu all over again for camp h.

[George II]

46. 2008 is NOT 2016, and Sanders is most definitely NOT Obama.

[artislife]

48. But Hillary is still Hillary.

Yup, that's right. She is not going to win.

[Agnosticsherbet]

49. I doubt they made their decison because Sanders believed a New Age crackpot theory about cancer.

I think they made their choice because they determined that Clinton was the best candidate to support advances in women's rights.

I hope he has better advisors on science now.

[840high]

56. Or perhaps because someones daughter

got hired by Clinton.

[Agnosticsherbet]

67. LOL, did not get fitted for a tin foil hat this election. My oriniginal premise stands. nt

[840high]

71. Well - she was hired.

[Agnosticsherbet]

72. The notion that could be the only possible reason is laugable.

I refuse to put on a tin foil hat and descend to conspiracy theory.

[Douglas Carpenter]

50. why didn't you mention tht this article is 43-44 years old and he based

it on some medical literature of the time?

[SoLeftIAmRight]

52. "cut it out"

sweet dreams cali girl

[Warren DeMontague]

57. "there is no evidence that orgasms have anything to do with cancer" - ah, not entirely true.

Frequent Ejaculation May Reduce Prostate Cancer Risk: How Orgasm Protects Against Disease

An orgasm a day could keep prostate cancer at bay

Now, men and prostate cancer is not the same thing as women and cervical cancer, however, "hoo hoo ha ha it's bathshittery to suggest orgasms can have anything to do with preventing cancer" = not true.


Of course I realize that the Vatican or assorted members of the Jr. Anti-Sex League may not like it, for whatever reason...

but hey, science has a tendency to piss dogmatists off, doesn't it.

[Warren DeMontague]

61. And maybe Debbie Wasserman Schultz advocating throwing medical marijuana users in prison

caused Susan Sarandon to endorse Bernie Sanders?

[JI7]

63. trash thread

[djean111]

64. If PP believes that Bernie still believes that - then PP is not too bright, IMO.

Or vindictive. I don't care about the endorsement - if Liz Warren endorsed Hillary, I would still be voting for Bernie - but the way the endorsement was framed was ridiculous, implying that anyone who stood with PP should also stand with HRC. Didn't work, and now the spin is approaching category 5. But, like a hurricane that dies out at sea, no damage done, no Bernie supporters lost.

[rhett o rick]

66. The decision by the leadership of PP was purly politically motivated and the good

works by the organization will suffer. To snub two candidates that are completely supportive of PP and it's mission will not only hurt the mission of PP but also work to continue the divide in our Party. We need a change from a culture where big money thinks they can buy the White House.

[TexasBushwhacker]

68. It sounds stupid now

But they didn't discover a relationship between cervical cancer and HPV until 1976. There was a LOT of speculation about causes and they were considering everything. One thing that was observed was that nuns almost never got cervical cancer, nor did Orthodox Jewish women. What could 2 such disparate groups have in common? Scientists were scratching their heads.

Of course, most nuns are virgins. Orthodox Jewish women are usually virgins when they marry and their husbands are all circumcized. The intact penis is more likely to harbour bacteria and viruses, including HPV and HIV, than the circumcized penis. We know that NOW, but we didn't know it then.

[Enrique]

70. Planned Parenthood wouldn't care about something so stupid n/t

[elana i am]

76. ah yes

back in the day when smoking was a cure for asthma.

[bowens43]

77. your desperation is more and more evident with every post. whether or not she gets the nomination

hillary will never be president. What you have to decide is whether or not you want a republican nut job in the oval office.

[Warren Stupidity]

78. Did something really bad happen today to produce

this stream of liquid horseshit?

[Warren DeMontague]

79. "HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN IS ***NOT*** NERVOUS, YOUSE GUYS!!!!"

And to prove it, we've doused ourselves in the subtle fragrance of "eau de desperation number five."

[libdem4life]

80. My doctor told me much the same thing when I had cervical cancer. Although she

explained it...which I won't here. The good news is that it is gone and my son is 28. The explanation was different, however.

This OP is a very low level of communication. I'm learning what Flame Bait is. I don't hide...no need...I just don't open threads. And if poster is a woman, shame on you.