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DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
1. So Clinton is actually ahead? Wow, I'm surprised to see you commit to that here
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:00 AM
Jan 2016

Want to make it interesting? I'm game.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
2. Their latest poll has them statistically tied -- within the 5% margin of error. But there are
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:04 AM
Jan 2016

so many more reliable pollsters I don't see the point of posting anything ARG puts out; and I have never posted anything they reported.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
3. I've also never posted anything they've reported.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:12 AM
Jan 2016

But, I've never been too wise with money, so let's just jump in and do it.

Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire: you donate $100 to DU.
Bernie loses both Iowa and New Hampshire: I donate $100 to DU.
Clinton wins one, Sanders wins the other: no money changes hands.

We don't have to do this, of course. Or we could do it at lesser amounts. But frankly, I can't afford a larger amount right now, and I don't make wagers without being able to cover them. You seemed very sure that the ARG poll is wrong, and while I don't know ARG, I'm willing to take the bet because I believe the Senator has a big groundswell working in his favor right now.

If so, great. If not, that's cool too. Please let me know.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
5. I am only very sure that people should try to post reliable posters and not just anything
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:23 AM
Jan 2016

they see thrown up on the Internet.

Gravis Marketing is another one to avoid, and there are many others. 538's list is a useful one.

P.S. I have no particular expectations of the primary in Iowa because I live in a caucus state so I am sadly familiar with how unrepresentative they are compared to primaries. For example, my son, who is a Bernie supporter, can't participate because he's an out of state college student. They have no exceptions for people in his situation.

That's why most of the country switched to primaries -- because they allow a much larger and more representative group of the population to participate.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
6. So then...lets put a dollar amount on your certainty.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:27 AM
Jan 2016

I'm ready to lose that $100, and I'm committing to that here in front of everyone. I just need your sign-off.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
7. Please reread my answer to you above. I don't have any expectations that the result
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:29 AM
Jan 2016

in Iowa will be either fair or predictable.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. This is actually a comparatively reasonable response.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:31 AM
Jan 2016

Obviously you didn't read the memo to go full out over the top horseshit on bernie.
I think you would have to agree though that there is a real possibility that Clinton could lose the first two primaries and that that would be a major hit to her campaign and a huge boost for Sanders.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
11. I agree. She could lose them and will have to continue to work hard.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jan 2016

But she's positioned much better in the south, so far, than Bernie was. And that's where Obama really overcame her last time -- though they ended less than 1% apart in the popular vote.

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