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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:02 PM Jan 2016

Why the enthusiasm gap in Iowa could be a big deal

As reported by the NYT today, Hillary hasn't been able to match Bernie's enthusiastic crowds. He has momentum at this point. It makes intuitive sense that enthusiastic supporters will be more geared up to caucus than less enthusiastic ones. A lot can change in 3 weeks, and as reported in the article, Hillary is aggressively going after Bernie, but as of now, I get why her campaign is worried. The headlines if she loses or underperforms in Iowa, would be brutal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-supporters.html?_r=0

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Why the enthusiasm gap in Iowa could be a big deal (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
Commitment cards? WTH? Does Bernie does this too? Anybody know? thereismore Jan 2016 #1
Something tells me the Sanders aides are not worried about commitment. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #2
I bet. Look at this comment from somebody in IA: thereismore Jan 2016 #4
And that was as early as last fall? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #5
But, but, but ... she listens. morningfog Jan 2016 #3
From the comment section: thereismore Jan 2016 #6
Very interesting. cali Jan 2016 #7
I saw a few caucusers in action last weekend loyalsister Jan 2016 #8
Good stuff from the field. Thanks. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #9

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
1. Commitment cards? WTH? Does Bernie does this too? Anybody know?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

"About 300 people welcomed Mrs. Clinton enthusiastically and listened to her diligently, but many of them, still unsure, rebuffed Clinton aides trying to get them to sign “commitment cards” to caucus for her."

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
2. Something tells me the Sanders aides are not worried about commitment.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jan 2016

They are too busy welcoming all the new Bernie-voters.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
4. I bet. Look at this comment from somebody in IA:
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

"Hillary has a real enthusiasm gap problem. People just can't get excited about her. Last fall I attended an annual neighborhood fair and there was a table set up for her campaign. Absolutely no one stopped at her table to talk or sign those silly commitment cards. The two people at sitting there were the loneliest at the fair and I live in a heavily democratic district."

Ouch.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
6. From the comment section:
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jan 2016

Steve Iowa city

I've been a caucus attendee since 1984 in Iowa. Was the lone delegate in our county for Clinton in 1992 (when our Senator Harkin was running). I had planned on caucusing for Hillary and I did so in 08. I've decided (last week) to support Sanders.

For six months it has appeared that the substantial passion of Sanders supporters, would be difficult for Hillary to win against. I'm now seeing the solidification of a fundamental shift in the calculus folks are doing regarding the caucuses this go around. Three months ago the bottom line in conversations was: Clinton is electable and Sanders is not (and her debate performance substantiated the assets she can bring to the White House). Now some Clinton supporters appear to have concluded she may not be as electable as thought and that the Sanders may have the better chance given the Republican field. So you are seeing Hillary supporters who have all along been enthusiastic about Sanders' message now believing Sanders is potentially the more electable of the two.

At their core caucuses are about persuading your neighbors. And, alliances do in fact reconfigure over the course of the evening until a final count is taken. The key element is always the level of passion a person has for the candidate. I believe Sanders will win big in Polk, Johnson, Black Hawk, Story, Scott and Linn counties, the most populated counties, and that sanders will have a much stronger showing in the more rural counties than anticipated.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. I saw a few caucusers in action last weekend
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

They are passionate! Some I talked with switched from Hillary to Bernie after she skipped an event organized by grassroots activists. A staffer out of another state quit.

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