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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:16 AM Jan 2013

girls become women by aging. boys become men by doing.

There are a few arguments Jon Stewart doesn't understand about the women in combat debate.

Argument: Putting women in male-dominated combat units would encourage improper sexual relationships, wearing on unit cohesion.

Stewart: "Have some standard, some code, that governs the military, like, a military code of conduct."

Argument: Women aren't physically capable.

Stewart: "Maybe the military could have a requirement pertaining to physical fitness, say a physical fitness requirement?"


http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-stewart-on-women-in-combat-roles-2013-1
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girls become women by aging. boys become men by doing. (Original Post) seabeyond Jan 2013 OP
I saw that asshole saying that--Samantha Bee wondered if he'd ever met a woman TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
po hubby.... as he lay in bed next to me. seabeyond Jan 2013 #2
Jon Stewart Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #3
yes. seabeyond Jan 2013 #4
Oh for Gods sake ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #5
that was the good point, though subtle and dont know if people picked up... BUT seabeyond Jan 2013 #6
My daughter made it a point to be at the top of PT ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #9
that is the double b slap.... is the women that take this seriously and out there doing and 150% seabeyond Jan 2013 #10
I'll be more clear. Helen Reddy Jan 2013 #7
didnt see that one. but yes. you are right. nt seabeyond Jan 2013 #8
Colbert did that? Really? CrispyQ Jan 2013 #11

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. I saw that asshole saying that--Samantha Bee wondered if he'd ever met a woman
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:03 AM
Jan 2013

who didn't want to strangle him.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. po hubby.... as he lay in bed next to me.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jan 2013

then they come up with the bud commercial of a shot of a womans crotch for 20 seconds. i asked hubby... you think bud will next do a shot of the mans crotch letting us just look at his package for 20 sec? he didnt think so. i have noticed bud does this. prior commercial is all kinds of people at party ho,ding beer. all the shots of men is with their face. the woman? holding at chest level, and just shot of boobs and beer. nothing subtle in that.

i did like how samantha did the piece, though.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
3. Jon Stewart
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jan 2013

comes off as smarmy. Sure, his writers come up with some funnies every now and then but overall, just another smarmy librul dude.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. yes.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jan 2013

i do not know if i would necessarily use that word, but i get another feeling that. he is certainly a man that needs to have his privilege. i say this delicately because it is a little complex what i see. he is a man that really feels an equality for women i think. but, also a man, that needs to have the sexism to feel like a man. maybe it is both colbert and stewarts desire to use the edge of comedy and what easier way than to use women to do it. maybe that is why i do not necessarily feel they are misogynist like maher. but see the sexism of male privilege.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
5. Oh for Gods sake
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:27 AM
Jan 2013

Once again, my daughter was in for army for almost 9 years. She held her own, as did most of the women she deployed with. Why is no one talking about lazy ass men who are in but don't physically qualify? Or barely get by? There are more of those than you'd think.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. that was the good point, though subtle and dont know if people picked up... BUT
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jan 2013

what i have been saying. there are a lot of little men in service, or out of shape, and there are a lot of bigger women and in shape and strong that can easily kick their ass. lol. we are not all itsy bitsy.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
9. My daughter made it a point to be at the top of PT
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jan 2013

She was never 'in back of the line' she felt she needed to uphold standards because she was a women in a non- traditional field. She actually tried to go Airborne, but developed shin splints from all that double time. So she learned to rappel out of helicopters instead

Have to admit, I didn't watch the video, I will though

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
10. that is the double b slap.... is the women that take this seriously and out there doing and 150%
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jan 2013

over men to be sure to not let down the whole are totally fuckin' dismiss, ridiculed, ignored, or not appreciate and recognized.

i betcha all the women in the top do exactly this.

yet... we have men dismissing their efforts and accomplishments.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
7. I'll be more clear.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jan 2013

Jon Stewart is smarmy when it comes to women. With political discussions, he is usually right on. His use-to-be sidekick Colbert is even worse when it comes to women, the last time I tuned in, he had Tommy Chong on as a guest and they were both having loads of fun discussing the way they would "take" a previous guest (a gov. rep.) who was just on the show. Discussing having oral sex with her etc...

Jesus! That pissed me off. Have never watched again.

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