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[ismnotwasm]

[seabeyond]

1. ha ha. no comments. have you seen the other one he has?

but i guess there is another one. son said he had seen it. i hadnt. but then, i do not watch tv so that is no surprise.

he got in trouble for this one...


http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/fLvuYmVAtGIubRzqz6yrqg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/

[ismnotwasm]

3. Someone was showing us these at work

Very interesting concept,

[seabeyond]

4. doing a bird, show a little leg, flash to leg.... butt shot.

the thing, son and i watching and it was more smirking at the comparing what they do with the man, cause this is what they do with women constantly. it was not really the same because watching them, it was not necessarily eye candy for women, and for me, but the untold story behind the shots.

[ismnotwasm]

5. Well I'll tell you

We had a small crowd of women and one Gay guy watching something else--a studly version of "call me maybe" and this. And I noticed the same thing I've noticed before, the response was lighthearted, admiring and lustful. However, Nobody called this guy a " slut" or said "I'd love to hit that" there was an enjoyment of the erotic presentation without the shaming.

The presentation of a women for heterosexual males CAN be erotic, but there is always a difference, either the men are painted as buffoons, or the women as slightly powerless, Either virginal or whore-playing a part rather than being a fully sexual being.

With much commentary taking the apart woman body piece by body piece for analysis

[seabeyond]

6. lighthearted, .... that is more what i feel with it. which does take away the objectifying.

it just cannot be the same cause we know it is a play off what they do with women. it would be like eating a jalapeno straight. or an olive stuff jalapeno. the olive cuts out some of the heat.

this one commercial is what i think they come the closest to doing what they regularly do to women. and there are rarely commercials like this with men.

[ismnotwasm]

7. And is that too sad?

Women's bodies are used over and over and over and it steals what is erotic away and turns them into interchangeable objects, with interchangeable parts with little power over how to present their sexuality.

As a for instance I read a gay woman's critique of "lesbian" porn talking about what long ass fingernails were going to do to the vaginal vault. And who screws in high heels all the time?

[seabeyond]

8. i saw that. very good video. nt

[seabeyond]

2. my favorite is old spice. i luv the old spice dude. son wanted some of the cologne. it even smells

good