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Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:19 AM

How to Talk to a 'Brocialist'

HOW TO TALK TO A 'BROCIALIST'

Example: “He said my paper on the exploitation of female prostitutes was ‘insufficiently class-conscious.’ What a brocialist.”

Who uses it: funny feminists/Reddit commenters/brocialists trying to disarm their critics


The “brocialist” is generally a good leftist. His heart is probably in the right place. But he has a gigantic blind spot when it comes to women, one that is both political (he is not sensitive to feminist concerns) and personal (he can be a pig).

Often, brocialism manifests at left-wing powwows. Someone raises a feminist grievance. The brocialist instructs her that she is distracted from the paramount issue, namely class. And the condescension is usually obvious. Sarah Jaffe, a prominent left-wing journalist, has been there. “Brocialists,” she explains, are “guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong.”

The word entered the discourse two years ago via an environmental-studies graduate student named Benjamin Silverman (“Of course a guy takes credit for the term,” says Jaffe) who felt that some in a heated left-wing Reddit thread were not sufficiently reckoning with Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s rape accusations—a stance they “justified,” says Silverman, “as being not as important as class.” The word owes a debt to the neologism “manarchist” and is a close cousin to “brogressive.” “Brocialist” and “brogressive” are both species of the very popular genus “portmanbro,” terms that incorporate “bro” to mock a certain dumb-jock swagger. Like most jokes, portmanbros began as larks—“brodown,” “bromance”—but can now be a bit more pointedly political.

The problem brocialism diagnoses is not new. “Misogyny within the left has historically inspired women’s rights movements,” feminist intellectual Susan Faludi told me. The nineteenth-century abolitionist movement marginalized women. Suffragism followed. Many dashing dudes of the 1960s New Left refused to cede the prerogatives they enjoyed over their female counterparts—who became second-wave feminist leaders. So, who knows what good today’s brocialists might provoke?


http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116012/defining-brocialist-leftists-new-feminist-portmanbro

(Brocialist???? I didn't know there was a word for them)

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ismnotwasm Jan 2014 OP
cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #1
geek tragedy Jan 2014 #2
BainsBane Jan 2014 #4
redqueen Jan 2014 #3
cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #5
MadrasT Jan 2014 #6
Deep13 Jan 2014 #7
TBF Jan 2014 #8

Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:22 AM

1. Wow. I LOVE THAT WORD

It's the first time I've heard of it, but it fits so well.

This made my day, seriously.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:28 AM

2. not only for gender, but race and sexual orientation

 

sneering references to "gonadal politics" and "lifestyle liberalism" etc

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 12:44 PM

4. I call it white male supremacy

because that is really what it is.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:36 AM

3. There's no way I'm using that term. These men are not socialist by any stretch of the imagination.

The people who insist on commodifying sex and counting women's bodies as consumer goods to be rented are right wing, or centrist at best.

This is why the most progressive countries have criminalized the purchase of sex.

Did you see the article posted in GD where some rightwingers from Norway were quoted as "demanding" that they be allowed to legally rent women's bodies again.

The person who quoted them conveniently left out any of the article's quotes from the actual prostitute. Of course.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 04:45 PM

5. Well of course

if they had mentioned what the prostitute said, then the spell would have been broken. The quotes from the prostitute were really damning.

I can't believe they're gleefully posting RW articles from Norway to DU. They must be really desperate to be right about prostitutes.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:09 PM

6. Oh god that's hilarious.

I am more enamored with "brogressive"... that describes a whole pack of "progressive" men I know.

guys who are so enamored of their own radicalness or progressiveness or whateverness that they are convinced they can do no wrong


Dang if that doesn't hit the nail on the head.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 09:28 PM

7. Seems like an old-fashioned perspective.

I don't see how one can be a leftist in the 21st century without a really deep appreciation of gender as a constructed norm.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:29 PM

8. Love it -

and I could give several examples.

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