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Ugh (Original Post) ismnotwasm Jan 2014 OP
OK Cupid has (or had) a question like this. redqueen Jan 2014 #1
I think it was cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #3
Yes, that was it. redqueen Jan 2014 #6
Holy Crap 4Q2u2 Jan 2014 #2
Women grow up in the same culture men do. redqueen Jan 2014 #7
It's almost as if there is something, you know, *cultural* going on. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #4
Naaaaaaaaah... redqueen Jan 2014 #8
its da hormoanz nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9
LOL, yes, it is because hoarmoanz! redqueen Jan 2014 #10
Treating women as human beings is a sign of low T. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #12
I know! redqueen Jan 2014 #15
And even if true, our "needs" don't supercede someone else's right to bodily autonomy. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #20
like it grows in a petrie dish, yep. culture, alright. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #16
What is that shit? geardaddy Jan 2014 #5
AND ... This was a question ask of high school students. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #11
Who are in their 50's now and have raised children of their own. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #13
Article from 1985 geek tragedy Jan 2014 #14
Almost 30 years on, and we are still shouted down when we try to discuss this shit. redqueen Jan 2014 #17
As parents GeoWilliam750 Jan 2014 #18
WHAT RAPE CULTURE??? THERE IS NO RAPE CULTURE!!! MadrasT Jan 2014 #19

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
1. OK Cupid has (or had) a question like this.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jan 2014

There was an awesome tumblr which showed some of the men who answered "yes" to the question that was something like 'are there any situations where a woman is obligated to have sex with you?'

So... yeah.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
3. I think it was
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:02 PM
Jan 2014

"nice guys" of okcupid, or something. I remember reading that tumblr because it was so awful you couldn't look away.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. Yes, that was it.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jan 2014

Funny how they're ok with rape, but consider themselves to be 'nice guys'. It's also super cute how they think their failure to have sex with women is because wimminz are bad / stupid.

Guys like that need to just use their hand and stay far, far away from women.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
2. Holy Crap
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

I knew that some people had some stone age ideas about men and woman but WOW. Disturbing that the question would even have to be asked. Secondly that the amount of males that responded in such a way is horrific. Lastly that the Females are not 0% across the board is very sad.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. Women grow up in the same culture men do.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jan 2014

We are all bombarded with messages about how men and women are expected to behave 'because biology/gender'.

Women internalize patriarchal values just like men do.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Treating women as human beings is a sign of low T.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jan 2014

As is not being superficial.

I wish I were exaggerating or making stuff up for comedic effect, but people actually said this stuff.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
20. And even if true, our "needs" don't supercede someone else's right to bodily autonomy.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:53 PM
Jan 2014

This is all so basic to me. Why is it so difficult for some?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. Article from 1985
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 03:58 PM
Jan 2014
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1985-05-31/features/8501210779_1_rapes-acquaintance-victims/2

``The first thing we say to women is to trust your instincts and not stereotype people,`` says SAFE`s McDonnell, who earned a black belt in the martial arts.

``Don`t get a Hollywood sense of a rapist as a man wearing a stocking mask lurking behind a bush. Instead, it will probably be someone who acts appropriately, might be well-educated, well-dressed, but he gives you a funny feeling.

``Trust your funny feelings, because your instincts are probably right.``

...

practiced in classrooms through role-playing.

``We are finding that boys believe girls say no because girls are supposed to, not because they really mean it,`` says Abarbanela. ``So if a girl says no and the boy perceives it as yes, he acts on his belief and you have trouble.

``We also found that if a girl goes back to a guy`s house, the boys say she is signing up for intercourse. We are trying to change these attitudes.``



Amazingly, these are still controversial concepts at liberal websites . . .

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
17. Almost 30 years on, and we are still shouted down when we try to discuss this shit.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 04:35 PM
Jan 2014

But there's no such thing as "rape culture"! That's just a HoF invention!

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
18. As parents
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jan 2014

We are responsible for our children's education, both at home and in schools.

Although we are all bombarded by horrible media, parents still have power, and it is us parents that must continue to struggle against this sickness, one child at a time.

We can also make our voices heard by calling the sponsors of TV or radio programs that promote this.

A little bit,every day, we can make it better.

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