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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:00 PM Jul 2014

ESPN Panelist: Women Should Try Not To 'Provoke' Domestic Violence (VIDEO)

Provocative "First Take" panelist Stephen A. Smith was discussing the National Football League's decision to suspend Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice for two games, after he was indicted for allegedly physically assaulting his then-fiancee. The suspension was widely panned as lenient.

Smith said during his ESPN appearance that a man has "no business" putting his hands on a woman, but then went on to say that he was raised by women and encouraged the female members of his family to "make sure we don’t do anything to provoke wrong actions."

"I think that just talking about what guys shouldn’t do, we got to also make sure that you can do your part to do whatever you can do to try to make sure it doesn’t happen … but at the same time, we also have to make sure that we learn as much as we can about elements of provocation,” he added. “Not that there’s real provocation, but the elements of provocation, you got to make sure that you address them. Because we’ve got to do is do what we can to try to prevent the situation from happening in any way. And I don’t think that’s broached enough, is all I’m saying."


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/stephen-a-smith-espn-provoke-domestic-violence


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ESPN Panelist: Women Should Try Not To 'Provoke' Domestic Violence (VIDEO) (Original Post) LanternWaste Jul 2014 OP
The only way women "provoke" that kind of violence Warpy Jul 2014 #1
keep your fuggin mouth shut, lower the eyes and do what is told. women. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #2
Speaking of provocation CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #3
I feel sorry for all those female members of his family. At the same time, I'm a little annoyed Squinch Jul 2014 #4
Fuck off Steve Smith. STFU. And fuck right the fuck off. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #5
^^^ +1 discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2014 #6
cause next? it will be her.... tone. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #7
Lol Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #9
It's that word "provoke" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2014 #10
Yes. She made him. I really wanted to say... seabeyond Jul 2014 #12
Yep Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #8
I see you're rather... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2014 #11
You took the words right out of my mouth. MadrasT Jul 2014 #13
yep and if it makes me radfem - so be it. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #15
fuck him mercuryblues Jul 2014 #14
I am loving all F bombs in this thread. I wish the networks could hear us from here. I know I don't Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #16
I remember he made similar comments when Chad (Ochocinco) Johnson got arrested... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #17
and they must remember intaglio Jul 2014 #18
Here's another article about it ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #19
A big K&R n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2014 #20

Warpy

(111,174 posts)
1. The only way women "provoke" that kind of violence
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:03 PM
Jul 2014

is by being there. Men who batter women will come up with any excuse they can to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing.

I hope Mrs. Rice sees that video and leaves his violent ass. There is nothing like seeing your unconscious, battered body being dumped out on the sidewalk to be a wakeup call that the next time he will kill.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. Speaking of provocation
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jul 2014

Does this idiot not realize that he has provoked one hell of a lot of people with his stupid remark? If "provocation" is an excuse for violence I would suggest he watch over his shoulder.

Squinch

(50,922 posts)
4. I feel sorry for all those female members of his family. At the same time, I'm a little annoyed
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jul 2014

with them for the fact that they didn't brain him.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. Yes. She made him. I really wanted to say...
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 07:49 PM
Jul 2014

Women, don't hit. That simple. But his wording and you are right.... Provoke/provocative stops that conversation to address this.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
16. I am loving all F bombs in this thread. I wish the networks could hear us from here. I know I don't
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jul 2014

want him on the air and will not listen to shit the man has to say. Fuck him is right.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
17. I remember he made similar comments when Chad (Ochocinco) Johnson got arrested...
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 07:09 AM
Jul 2014

... for assaulting his wife Evelyn. So this isn't a first offense for Mr. Smith.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
18. and they must remember
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 06:00 PM
Jul 2014

not to break the table or the door with their head,
not to bleed on the clean carpet,
not to moan, or cry.

They must not forget
to bear the broken bones with fortitude and secrecy,
to cover the bruises with make-up,
to have the supper ready.
[hr]
What an absolute sea cucumber this man is

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
19. Here's another article about it
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 09:18 AM
Jul 2014
Once the damage is done, he says. There's only so much that can be done after the fact...once the damage is done.

You get what he's saying here, don't you?

He's not telling men that they shouldn't do this shit. He's not out there advocating that abuse is wrong and violence towards women is never the answer.

No. He's 'educating' women, informing them that there are ways to PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. And those ways are to TAKE CARE NOT TO PROVOKE A MAN.

Take care how? He doesn't say but I'm pretty sure it's 'shut up and put out'.

The 'damage' that he is referring to is not how much the woman physically and mentally suffered and will continue to suffer from all her life.

No, he's referring to the damaging of a man's image and career. That's it. That's what he worried about.

Women, don't piss off your man because if he hits you and the media finds out, he could get in trouble and it will be all your fault!

http://nikostatenwritesstuff.blogspot.com/2014/07/this-is-not-ok-feminism-part-2.html
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