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intaglio

(8,170 posts)
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:24 AM Jul 2014

Not this barbaric OT bullshit again

The Only Way To Really Stop Hamas Terrorists Is To Rape Their Mothers And Sisters, Zionist Orthodox Professor Says

“The only thing that can deter terrorists, like those who kidnapped the children and killed them, is the knowledge that their sister or their mother will be raped. It sounds very bad, but that’s the Middle East.” Professor Mordechai Kedar

Via Failed Messiah
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Not this barbaric OT bullshit again (Original Post) intaglio Jul 2014 OP
Reflects rage and frustration when all you want is peaceful coexistence. Loudly Jul 2014 #1
Wrong, it is misogynistic morality from the Septaguint intaglio Jul 2014 #2
Too convenient to call it misogyny. Loudly Jul 2014 #3
Advocating rape is misogyny. F4lconF16 Jul 2014 #4
Rape and political apologetics in one post intaglio Jul 2014 #6
Hatred of women has nothing to do with this "professor's" vile suggestion. Loudly Jul 2014 #9
So why did he not suggest raping the male children and the grandfathers? intaglio Jul 2014 #10
Perhaps he views forced anal intercourse as normalized in the male culture. Loudly Jul 2014 #13
So how does your apologetics detract from my original post intaglio Jul 2014 #15
I didn't intend to detract from the outrageousness of it. Loudly Jul 2014 #17
Funny that because you inserted commentary rather than context intaglio Jul 2014 #18
"falsely belittling rape,... it is always unacceptable." that would be the point. of this OP. in hof seabeyond Jul 2014 #19
Does your signature line contain a double negative? Loudly Jul 2014 #20
There is no kind of harassment that man may not inflict on woman with impunity in civilised societi intaglio Jul 2014 #21
Ok, I think I understand what Diderot was saying. Loudly Jul 2014 #22
and the go to is ALWAYS rape the girls and women, hence the patriarchal misogyny. seabeyond Jul 2014 #14
the fall to. rape of women and girls. i say misogyny. seabeyond Jul 2014 #7
Not only misogyny Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #11
i really wanted to throw in patriarchy. you are right. it is in the patriarchy. so cemented that seabeyond Jul 2014 #12
"Too convenient to call it misogyny"??? brer cat Jul 2014 #8
wow. just wow. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #16
oh. i saw this. a world of sick sick sick . and then all those getting undies in a twist cause we seabeyond Jul 2014 #5
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
1. Reflects rage and frustration when all you want is peaceful coexistence.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jul 2014

And all you are experiencing is institutionalized hatred and terrorism.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
2. Wrong, it is misogynistic morality from the Septaguint
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jul 2014

and should not be uttered by a supposedly educated person of any nationality.

Now take your apologetics to a site where they might be accepted - like World Bnei Akiva and their Lahava political party.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
3. Too convenient to call it misogyny.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jul 2014

It is a desire to take death off the table when death is exalted as noble.

Not unlike the motive to abolish the death penalty in favor of a life sentence of prison rape as somehow more just.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
4. Advocating rape is misogyny.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jul 2014

Period. There might be other things too, but this is clearly an issue of advocating violence against women, which is almost the exact defenition of harmful misogyny. It's not that hard to figure out.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
9. Hatred of women has nothing to do with this "professor's" vile suggestion.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:19 AM
Jul 2014

It's a blatant attempt to raise the stakes by impressing upon those persons prepared to die with a consequence worse than death.

I'm not agreeing with it. I'm simply explaining the desperation from which the suggestion springs.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
10. So why did he not suggest raping the male children and the grandfathers?
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jul 2014

You are being misogynistic and a rape apologist and a political apologist for inexcusable opinions.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
13. Perhaps he views forced anal intercourse as normalized in the male culture.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jul 2014

In his warped mind, what deterring effect can the threat of raping men have to people who accept such behavior?

How do you frighten someone who says "So what?"

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
15. So how does your apologetics detract from my original post
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

which pointed out that this Professor had advocated rape as a solution to justified Palestinian aggression and that this was related to Old Testament concept of morality

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
17. I didn't intend to detract from the outrageousness of it.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jul 2014

Only to put it into the context of the desperation which is its source.

Barbarism begets barbarism.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
18. Funny that because you inserted commentary rather than context
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jul 2014

Essentially you seemed decide that as you could not counter my arguments in the Israel/Palestine thread you would try to do so here by falsely belittling rape, by declaring this man's primitive nonsense as understandable and now saying that you were trying to add context. People do not need a context to interpret a rape threat - it is always unacceptable.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. "falsely belittling rape,... it is always unacceptable." that would be the point. of this OP. in hof
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jul 2014

yes. thank you for following this thru.

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
20. Does your signature line contain a double negative?
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jul 2014

A civilized society is to be identified as one in which (what)?

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
21. There is no kind of harassment that man may not inflict on woman with impunity in civilised societi
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

There is no kind of harassment that man may not inflict on woman with impunity in civilised societies - Diderot. The sig line cuts it off now if you are finished your petty nit-picking ...

 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
22. Ok, I think I understand what Diderot was saying.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jul 2014

He was being critical of societies which call themselves civilized but which nevertheless tolerate harrassment of women.

Thanks! Not nitpicking, just getting to know you and Diderot.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. and the go to is ALWAYS rape the girls and women, hence the patriarchal misogyny.
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

think of all the other ways he could have come up with a "punishment". yet, always.... always, it is rape girls and women. THAT is your patriarchal (instilled) misogyny (dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.)

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. i really wanted to throw in patriarchy. you are right. it is in the patriarchy. so cemented that
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jul 2014

so many automatically go to the rape of our girls and women. that is the point.

thank you

brer cat

(24,523 posts)
8. "Too convenient to call it misogyny"???
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 11:14 AM
Jul 2014

What else could you possibly call violence against women? I think you are not only posting in the wrong group, but on the wrong site. Liberals and progressive thinkers do not in any way condone calls to violence against women, people of color, or LBGT.

The quote in the OP is disgusting.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. oh. i saw this. a world of sick sick sick . and then all those getting undies in a twist cause we
Sat Jul 26, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jul 2014

have a world of sick sick sick with the obsession of raping our girls and women and some of us DARE to call it out for what it is. sick.

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