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"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN?!" - Is Feminism Sexist? (Original Post) redqueen Aug 2014 OP
Kick and Rec. riqster Aug 2014 #1
I thought feminism was focused Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #2
But there are anti-Feminist cats intaglio Aug 2014 #4
That was awesome! IronLionZion Aug 2014 #11
LOL mercuryblues Aug 2014 #3
And the MRA types just talk shit about the few men who are actually working on important issues redqueen Aug 2014 #6
Excellent mercuryblues Aug 2014 #7
It really is an excellent article. redqueen Aug 2014 #8
But if women get rights intaglio Aug 2014 #5
k and r and will leave at that. niyad Aug 2014 #9
Nice! ismnotwasm Aug 2014 #10
The sad thing is, there's so much in feminist thought that could potentially "liberate" men as well nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #12
I'm too tired to post now, but bookmarking thucythucy Aug 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Aug 2014 #14
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Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
2. I thought feminism was focused
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 08:53 AM
Aug 2014

On what it means to be feminine (AKA the child bearing 51% of the population) and societal issues involving women.

"But What About The Men?" seems as valid a question as "But what about the Feminists' cats?". A question only vaguely connected to what it mean address and work to change social conditions for women.
Oh Yeah. Men can be feminists, not sure about cats.

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
3. LOL
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:50 AM
Aug 2014

When men are called sluts and whores for sleeping with women.
When men are legislated about what they are allowed and not allowed to do with their penis
When men are paid less, just for being a man
When men are chastised as a slut because they wear a low cut shirt
When men are told that they need their wife's permission to run for political office
When men are told that their medical coverage will hinge on their Boss's religious beliefs
When men are used in sexual positions to sell anything from oatmeal to yachts
When men are judged by their looks alone if they are worthy of something
When men are told to just smile, they are so much prettier when they smile
When men are stopped on the street by women telling them that they have a great ass
When men are groped in stores
when men are.......

Then I will answer that question.

I will say this though. If men experienced were truly oppressed they would have a real men's rights organization. Not what they have now - a public forum to dehumanize and justify discrimination against women. No what they are fighting for is justification in their rights to be able to call women whores, to legally discriminate against, and more.

redqueen

(115,096 posts)
6. And the MRA types just talk shit about the few men who are actually working on important issues
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 09:55 AM
Aug 2014

facing men, such as male violence. Men like Jackson Katz, for example

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2308522/


So that tells you everything you need to know about them.

mercuryblues

(14,491 posts)
7. Excellent
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:02 AM
Aug 2014

article.

It does boil down to instead holding themselves to a higher standard, they oppress woman and minorities to make themselves look better without doing anything to improve themselves. It is a lot easier to blame others for your problems instead of looking at our own behavior that contributes to the problem and growing out of it into more responsible choices. That is one thing the MRA types lack. I call it growing up beyond the JR high school locker room attitude.





nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
12. The sad thing is, there's so much in feminist thought that could potentially "liberate" men as well
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 09:00 PM
Aug 2014

if more of them would only open their minds a little. Instead, a lot of us guys prefer to play stupid games with logical fallacies and false equivalencies galore, rather than have an actual discussion.

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