Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:21 PM
ismnotwasm (39,888 posts)
On FB--reposted by a friend.![]() There's never been a majority of women that claim the label, and white middle-class feminism has made its share of egregious mistakes when it came to POC, as well as cultural understanding (minus human rights violations-- that's part of what feminism fights against) but I still like the union comparison---in an open shop you get the benefits without paying the dues. People might disdain the label, but they're riding the coat.
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ismnotwasm | Dec 2014 | OP |
mopinko | Dec 2014 | #1 | |
appalachiablue | Dec 2014 | #2 | |
F4lconF16 | Dec 2014 | #4 | |
heaven05 | Dec 2014 | #3 | |
Enthusiast | Dec 2014 | #5 | |
DesertDiamond | Dec 2014 | #6 | |
Pacifist Patriot | Dec 2014 | #12 | |
JustAnotherGen | Dec 2014 | #7 | |
dawg | Dec 2014 | #8 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2014 | #10 | |
dawg | Dec 2014 | #11 | |
wavesofeuphoria | Jan 2015 | #16 | |
stage left | Dec 2014 | #9 | |
mountain grammy | Dec 2014 | #13 | |
ismnotwasm | Dec 2014 | #14 | |
seabeyond | Dec 2014 | #15 |
Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:32 PM
mopinko (58,508 posts)
1. they dont like the fabric, but they ride the coattails anyway.
Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 02:48 PM
appalachiablue (29,637 posts)
2. Bravo. Much warranted truth telling to unaware and ungateful anti-feminist women who benefit from
the struggle and sacrifice of others. Too much here and now ignorance when none of us got here on our own.
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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #2)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:19 PM
F4lconF16 (3,747 posts)
4. "Too much here and now ignorance when none of us got here on our own."
I think this speaks to a major cultural struggle today: the willingness to give back and contribute to a society that (as a whole) provided for most everything we have today. I think the conservative wing of this country simply wants to ignore that, which is why Obama's "You didn't build that" comment sparked such an uproar.
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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:28 PM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
5. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!
Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:41 PM
DesertDiamond (1,616 posts)
6. As someone who sacrificed something of myself for the rights of girls to have high school sports...
and yes, there was sacrifice, in so many unseen ways... the "I'm not a feminist" cutsies make me want to barf on them. They don't deserve the rights we won for them, and I'd love to find a way to take those rights back. Yeah, I'm sure that sounds petty, but it's how they make me feel.
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Response to DesertDiamond (Reply #6)
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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 04:49 PM
JustAnotherGen (27,259 posts)
7. This is excellent
And something positive I needed to see today!
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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:26 PM
dawg (10,002 posts)
8. I'll be honest here.
When a woman makes a big fuss about her not being a feminist, it raises a red flag with me. My (possibly unfair) first impression is that she is either a religious nutjob, or else a woman with self-esteem issues who is desperate for male attention and approval.
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Response to dawg (Reply #8)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:12 PM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
10. if they are young, i understand. if they are over 25, especially over 30, i ponder.
hope your holidays are good....
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #10)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:46 PM
dawg (10,002 posts)
11. Thanks.
I hope your family is having fun for the holidays as well.
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Response to dawg (Reply #8)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:40 AM
wavesofeuphoria (525 posts)
16. Or so steeped in privilege that they don't see
the inequality. I usually chalk it up to having had a privileged life and not aware of "anything" not in their immediate experiences. I too get a little surprised by the "fuss of not being a feminist" too ... so "women are people, too" is controversial?
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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:35 PM
stage left (2,307 posts)
9. K&R
Every word the absolute truth. I am indebted and grateful to all the feminists who came before me.
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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 07:10 PM
mountain grammy (22,485 posts)
13. Right on sister, K&R every word
my daughter, born in 1988, knows feminism because I've taught her..
My sons, raised in the 70's and 80's understand because they lived it with me. "conservative" women make me want to puke.. our own worst enemies. |
Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 11:58 PM
ismnotwasm (39,888 posts)
14. Good friend at work
Recently divorced, is looking at "OK Cupid" as a on-line dating site. On her profile she has "feminist (Google it)".--just like that
Love it. I've been married too long to know about on-line dating, but I know people fairly well--She was using me as a second opinion, because she knows this about me. I looked at the two men she is interested in--both well-spoken with an odd lack of bullshit. (well, the kind that hits my bullshit meter anyway-- and trust me I tried hard to find red flags) I'm very interested in how they turn out. |
Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #14)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:29 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
15. interesting. i too have started labeling myself with this.
at thanksgiving someone said something about me being a feminist. i told them. print it on my forehead. cause anyone that cannot handle the word feminist, needs to be aware and stay away. i am just not being accepting.
then again. i have boldly drawn my line with rw'ers and racists and homophobes. even the mild, "i am not really a racist" type while what they say, says otherwise. time is too short. |