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Wed Jan 21, 2015, 06:48 AM

Why I Had to Quit Filming Hardcore Porn

When I was in my early 20s, I made my living as a pornographer. For more than five years, my working life revolved around framing acts of public copulation. I’ve pushed cameras and microphones into dwellings no machines should ever go. I’ve been granted a front-row seat to scenes of startling intimacy. I’ve helped pick up thousands of used baby-wipes. Somewhere along the line, I gained a financial stability that, in light of the rather limited artistic scope of the movies I helped produce, I probably didn’t deserve.

But after half a decade of the sex grind, I decided to call it quits. For despite having entered the smut leagues with the very best of intentions, the vast majority of the porn I ended up shooting was not “sex-positive” in character. Instead, the sex I found myself videotaping was of the Gonzo variety: the kind of scenes that are harshly lit, reek of a basement in the San Fernando Valley, and inevitably wind up devoured and forgotten in 15 minutes. If my “career” as a director is notable in any way, it’s that I’ve played for both sides—which is to say, while I’ve shot hundreds of hetero scenes, I’ve shot almost as many in gay porn.

We Have to Give Them What They Want

Though gay and straight porn may appear distinct from one another mostly due to the various orifices which receive the majority of the camera’s gaze, for me, the most important difference was that they felt governed by subtly different moral tenets.

Let’s begin with straight porn; for that’s where I began. I got into porn as a horny 23-year-old Jewish kid, hoping to stare at and hopefully score with curvy women who didn’t see a roll in the hay as too absurd a way to make their rent. Perhaps I was blessed with an excessively literal mind, but I quite simply imagined that the best way for me to live out my sexual fantasies was to, well, join the sex industry itself. It was not to be so simple, I soon discovered: many a man had shared my same dream. A good job was hard to come by, but after months of crushing disappointments, I finally landed a mildly lucrative gig shooting camera for a website. Understandably, I was psyched.
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ismnotwasm Jan 2015 OP
thucythucy Jan 2015 #1
CTyankee Jan 2015 #2
mopinko Jan 2015 #4
F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #8
JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #3
starroute Jan 2015 #5
Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #6
Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #7
F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #9
ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #10

Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:10 AM

1. Very interesting read.

The contrast between straight and gay porn is instructive.

Thanks for posting this.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:41 AM

2. Is there female erotica out there?

It would be interesting to see how it operates and how it is done differently from male centered porn.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:26 AM

4. sure, it's out there. mostly made by lesbians.

annie sprinkle, and her offspring. not all, tho.
there is a woman owned toy store here where they specialize in things that are actually sex positive. they even make some of their own.
it has plots (tho they are mostly silly), it is slow, and it gets very hot. very, very different.

i met the owner thorough some work i did with a women's art org. i didnt know much about her, besides what i saw of her store, etc. i bumped into her one time at the local farmer's market. she was there w her hubby and 2 little kids. we both had to take a minute to recognize each other. it was so out of context. we shared a good laugh at that.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:37 PM

8. It's out there.

It's really hard to find, though, and even then, a lot of it is still messed up, just in a less overt manner. I would recommend some, but I stopped watching any halfway through high school, and I don't remember any of the names. It got to the point where I couldn't stand filtering through all the really awful crap. It amazes me how many people watch it--kinda scary when you realize how high of a percentage of the male population actually watches the stuff.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 09:00 AM

3. This was hard to read

But a good and interesting read.

He also got to the crux of why it's so well - just - ugly these days.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:46 AM

5. It may explain why many women are attracted to slash fiction

"Gay porn, in fact, was so goddamn simple that it approached a type of Zen beauty. I mean, this was guys taking on guys, in every shape and form imaginable, for the most part in good humor and absent-minded lust. They may have stuck to roles of “tops” and “bottoms,” but in the dressing room, we all seemed equals, on the same team. Everyone laughed at me for being a straight guy shooting gay porn. Some tried to entice me to jump in front of the camera for kicks. But we all laughed about it. We all seemed like friends. The sadness and the degradation I had come to associate with my job, with videotaped sex for money, was suddenly absent."

Why is guy-girl stuff pervaded by anger and resentment when guy-guy stuff isn't?

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Response to starroute (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:01 AM

6. Why is guy-girl stuff pervaded by anger and resentment when guy-guy stuff isn't?

my thought on this question is that guys are equal outside the bedroom.

the power structure. no "punishment" involved

they are both patriarchs therefore each other's equal.



But in due time, I came to learn that within the context of the heterosexual L.A. industry, while my overt task at hand was to make sure that the girls got naked, my true responsibility as director was to make sure the girls got punished.Scenes that stuck out, and hence made more money, were those in which the female “targets” were verbally degraded and sometimes physically humiliated.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:08 AM

7. Interesting and thought provoking conclusion and comment about today's society =

At its worst, though, porn can represent with shocking clarity the inability of a modern society to empathize. We are living in an increasingly individualistic, over-privatized, fragmented society, and it's not going to get any better any time soon. Perhaps the character of our generation will be judged in how we react to the images that run before us on our screens: do we wish for the objects of our desire to be punished, humiliated? Or treated with respect? The answer is in our collective consciousness. It is up to us.


Indeed.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 12:42 PM

9. I think his perspective on gay porn is interesting.

It is unarguably less violent for the most part than straight porn, but what I remember seeing was that there was still excessive domination. The vast majority of what I saw was close to violent, if not completely so. Maybe I just wasn't in the right places, but it was still pretty tough to find decent stuff.

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Response to F4lconF16 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 01:14 PM

10. When I look at porn

I find the same dynamic in Gay and straight porn, Domination, emphasis on 'barely legal', racism etc. I was thinking the guy was speakng from a filmmaker POV-- which is somehow even sadder

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