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SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:25 PM Mar 2018

Question: advice needed on very old cat

Can't find anywhere this fits, so thought I would post it here.
We have an 18 year old cat, and it is going to devastate my daughter and wife when he goes.
He has had regular vet visits, and we were told some time back that he had an underactive thyroid and failing kidneys. The medicine for his thyroid made him throw up almost daily, where it had been infrequent before, so he came off of that. The vet says all she can do is run a battery of tests which probably won't show us anything new.

We had been giving him 1/3 to 1/2 can of soft food in morning, and 1/3 cup of dried food at night. He has about quit eating the hard food, so we have switched him to all soft. He doesn't seem to throw that up as bad.

Any suggestions for diet that will help? Thanks.

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Question: advice needed on very old cat (Original Post) SCantiGOP Mar 2018 OP
Try posting in the Pets Group -- eppur_se_muova Mar 2018 #1
Thanks, my mistake SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #7
Good luck with your kitty. I know it hurts to lose one. eppur_se_muova Mar 2018 #9
Not really a diet suggestion, but TDale313 Mar 2018 #2
Go easy on the protein Phoenix61 Mar 2018 #3
I recently found a new vet stopwastingmymoney Mar 2018 #4
Old cats PSPS Mar 2018 #5
My old kitty was 18 with failing kidneys and the vet suggested procon Mar 2018 #6
Thanks for all the advice SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #8
My cat is 14, and hyperthyroid... Kindnesscostszero Mar 2018 #10
Our nearly 17 kitty Meowmee Mar 2018 #11
So sad for your family. Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #12
I dont know you SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #13
It hits home. Please keep us posted. Laffy Kat Mar 2018 #14
For a while my elderly cat liked meat-flavored baby food raccoon Mar 2018 #15
My (late) elderly cat loved that too crazycatlady Apr 2018 #17
Delectables cat food Skittles Apr 2018 #16

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
7. Thanks, my mistake
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 02:22 PM
Mar 2018

I looked for a Pets forum and overlooked it. I will repost but did get some good answers here.

eppur_se_muova

(36,256 posts)
9. Good luck with your kitty. I know it hurts to lose one.
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 04:11 PM
Mar 2018

I just don't have any good advice to offer from experience. Our first two died of disease not really associated with old age, and our current kitties haven't really hit that stage yet.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. Not really a diet suggestion, but
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:32 PM
Mar 2018

I’ve found a tablespoon or so of pumpkin can help settle their stomachs, and most cats seem to really like the taste.

Phoenix61

(16,999 posts)
3. Go easy on the protein
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:45 PM
Mar 2018

It's hard on the kidneys. Brown rice, little bit of tuna in oil, maybe a little baby food vegetables. High in calories but low in protein.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,041 posts)
4. I recently found a new vet
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:49 PM
Mar 2018

for my middle aged cat with kidney disease. She said eating is most important, so give them what they like. She also feels that all meat foods are best for organ health and weight retention. She gave me a list, if you’d like to PM me, I can get it to you.

Water is important too. One good thing I’ve found is to add water to the soft food and mix it into a slurry. Maybe he’ll like that 😊

Best of luck to you

PSPS

(13,583 posts)
5. Old cats
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 01:51 PM
Mar 2018

Based on my experience with my old cats over the years, there are some things you can do to make their sunset years as good as they can be for your old friend.

The eschewing of dry food for soft could be due to dental issues. Since you're already seeing a vet about this, they would have mentioned this to you if it were a problem. Also, very old cats, especially those with other problems, aren't good candidates for dental procedures because they require anesthesia. In any case, at this stage of life, the important thing is to keep them eating, so give them whatever they want.

For failing kidneys, the usual methods of treatment can include a special "kidney diet" food (available in both soft and hard,) phosphorus binders (if phosphorous is high which is frequently the case in kidney kitties,) and the periodic administration of subcutaneous fluids (has a kind of "dialysis" effect by helping flush the kidneys.) The last item can be done by the vet from time to time (maybe every week or two) or you can do it yourself (it's pretty easy to do and the vet or a vet tech can show you how.)

Also, there are appetite stimulants that may help, but it sounds that you don't need those.

The vomiting may be reduced or relieved by the daily administration of a quarter of a Pepcid tablet (dosage depends on weight), which reduces nausea and acid in the stomach. Again, the vet will advise you about this.

The hypothyroid condition is treated the same way as it is in every mammal - Synthroid (levothyroxine.) Dosage depends on weight, it's very safe and inexpensive. Your cat's reaction to it may have been due to the dosage or his kidneys. Allergic reactions to it are very rare.

In any case, your vet is the best source of guidance on all of this. You should talk to them about what I've said before proceeding with any of it. They see similar kitties almost every day and are very familiar with what would be appropriate here. Eventually, your old guy's time will just run out. That fate awaits us all. But you can still do things to make your pal comfortable and happy for the time he has left. That's all any of us can hope for.

Good luck to you and your old devoted friend.

procon

(15,805 posts)
6. My old kitty was 18 with failing kidneys and the vet suggested
Sat Mar 10, 2018, 02:14 PM
Mar 2018

dietary changes. It wasn't a fix, possibly a little reprieve from the inevitable end to his long and well loved life. Maybe it would help, maybe not, but the effects would be marginal at best and the progress of his underlying health conditions would still continue and worse things were ahead.

We opted to send him on over that last bridge, letting him go with the peace and dignity he deserved, cuddled in our arms. It was a heart wrenching decision, but it was my responsibility to do the right thing by my darling companion. All these years later and I miss him still.

You already know what needs to be done. I wish you both peace and grace on the last journey you'll make together.

10. My cat is 14, and hyperthyroid...
Sun Mar 11, 2018, 01:08 AM
Mar 2018

I changed the diet to grain free, and use homeopathic remedies. His coat is softer, too. Nux vomica is great for stopping the vomiting. Nat mur helps with appetite. Don't worry about the lack of dry food. It is hard for them to drink enough water to support eating it anyway.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
11. Our nearly 17 kitty
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:06 AM
Mar 2018

Is also dealing with a lot, heart, kidney and liver issues. You can give fluids for the kidneys, but be careful because it can be bad for congestive heart disease. She stopped fluids completely and she’s much better now. She is still happy and enjoying her life after a lot so I’m so grateful to have her with us. A water fountain can help as well as soft food , but we let her eat whatever she wants of the brands. She was on grain free. An appetite stimulant, is a good idea, she is on Cyproheptadine now and it has helped her. Cerenia and or Pepcid for nausea, pumpkin for constipation. A probiotic may help but basically let him eat whatever soft food he wants and get him to drink more plus the appetite stimulant. saccharomyces boulardii is great for diarrhea. If he has liver problems, denamarin and ursodiol are miracles and life saving. I’d look into natural treatment for hypothyroid in cats too if possible. Hugs to your kitty and family.

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
12. So sad for your family.
Thu Mar 22, 2018, 11:53 PM
Mar 2018

If your kitteh is eighteen years-old he has already lived the life of a pampered cat. They don't live that long unless they are well cared for and loved. When mine got to be nineteen and started going downhill I had them stop trying to diagnose because i the pokes and probes stressed him out and was expensive. I think--and this is just me--I'd push fluids, of course, and just make him as comfortable as possible. Protein is indeed hard on the kidneys which are probably about the size of raisins at that age. Just do what you're doing. It's palliative care time.

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
13. I dont know you
Fri Mar 23, 2018, 12:58 AM
Mar 2018

But I think I would like you if I did.
Thanks for the advice, I’m in agreement.
But he seems to be doing better, as in only throwing up every 2-3 days.
He (18) and I (68) are doing well for two old farts.

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