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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:13 PM Jan 2015

Depression doesn’t make you sad all the time (UK Guardian)

One of the most popular, enduring, and irritating myths about depression is that it means depressed people are sad all the time – and that by extension, people who are happy can’t be experiencing depression, even if they say they are. It is a skewed and horrible version of depression, and it’s one that further stigmatises the condition and isolates people with depression and related mental health conditions. This is because, put bluntly, depression doesn’t make you sad all the time – though the level of sadness a patient experiences can of course vary depending on the individual and the severity of depression.

When I’m having a depressive episode, I’m not walking around in tattered black clothes, weeping and wailing. I go out with friends. I crack jokes (especially sardonic ones). I keep working, and have friendly chats with the people I work with. I often manage to feed and clothe myself, I read books. Above all, I experience moments of happiness: a flash of delight as I’m walking on the beach with a friend and the sun is perfect and the breeze is just right; a surge somewhere deep inside when I’m surrounded by beautiful trees and it’s raining and I feel my heart swelling to encompass the whole world; a warm, friendly, affectionate sensation at the touch of a friend, a hug at the end of an evening or a hand placed over mine as we lean forward to see something better.

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On the other, I feel an extreme pressure to perform just the opposite, because sad depressed people are boring and no fun, as I am continually reminded every time I speak openly about depression or express feelings of sadness and frustration. I’m caught in a trap where if I don’t perform sadness, I’m not really depressed, but if I express sadness at all to any degree, I’m annoying and boring and should stop being so self-centred. Thus I’m effectively pushed into fronting, putting a face on it even when I am depressed and deeply sad – when I feel like I am choking on my own misery, I put up a cheeky Tweet. When I hate myself and I want to die, I post a link to something fun, or I write up something silly to run somewhere – even though as I write it, I am drawn deeper and deeper into my unhappiness.

Depression is an asshole, and it can become your master, but you can slip out from under it occasionally. And many depressed people in the midst of an episode don’t actually spend it fainting dramatically on the couch and talking about how miserable they are. Some are high-functioning (bolstered by the need to put a face on it), others are into morbid jokes, others try to reach out for help (isn’t that what we’re “supposed” to do?) from friends and try to make their depression less scary. Depression isn’t an all-or-nothing deal – seeing a person who identifies with depression cracking a joke or having fun or dancing with a friend isn’t evidence that the person is faking it, whether the person is experiencing a moment of genuine happiness, or fronting. Conversely, jollying up people with depression to demand that they start being more fun is equally revolting, a refusal to acknowledge that people experiencing a rough day, or a rough week, or a rough few hours aren’t going to be your trained monkeys.

Link: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/03/depression-doesnt-make-you-sad-all-the-time

Anybody relate to any of this? It doesn't describe me entirely, but some of it does. I have my "good" days.

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Depression doesn’t make you sad all the time (UK Guardian) (Original Post) inanna Jan 2015 OP
I may have had less than bad days, elleng Jan 2015 #1
I love music, cooking, news, history and politics. inanna Jan 2015 #3
So do I (cooking, not so much!) elleng Jan 2015 #6
yeah, because most of us hide it. mopinko Jan 2015 #2
Yes... inanna Jan 2015 #4
viscous cycles mopinko Jan 2015 #5

inanna

(3,547 posts)
3. I love music, cooking, news, history and politics.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:20 PM
Jan 2015

But you'd never know it when I'm at my worst. I have been that individual flaked out on the sofa: not for days - but for weeks.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
6. So do I (cooking, not so much!)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:31 PM
Jan 2015

but when the grey cloud was upon me, doing anything was extremely difficult. Fortunately I was able to do necessary things, like retaining counsel and filing suit against husb.

My lawyer was the one to point out, during this time, that husb was sociopath, and I was fortunate to be able to internalize this fact. I had an 'AHA' moment, recognizing my condition was because I'd been under his thumb for a few years. Not long after, I stopped taking anti-depression meds. The worst of it has been over for some years, but have lived through lots of stuff since, taken care of family and legal decisions, but still rarely 'feel' real joy; satisfaction is available, tho.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
2. yeah, because most of us hide it.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:12 PM
Jan 2015

the black moments occur behind closed doors, or in front of people we trust, if we have such people in our lives.
i am no fun. that is a big reason why my husband left. i am too tired, and physically ill and exhausted, especially by late in the day when he got home from work.
kids feel the same.
in the year, almost, that we have been separated, he is out having a great old time, and taking the kids along for the ride.
he didnt even notice that he had them, i dont think, except as a ball and chain, when they were kids. now they dont need anything, they are his best buddies.

it is hard to live with someone suffering from depression, and i get the frustration. i cant blame him. or them.

but, yeah, i get it.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
4. Yes...
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jan 2015

the depression has affected most of my relationships as well. And I think that is probably the case with many sufferers.

mopinko

(70,078 posts)
5. viscous cycles
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jan 2015

everywhere.
the worst of it is that i think he was suffering, and tried to get him to see it, which meant that i was "calling him crazy"
i know he suffered in this last year, too. but......

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