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"One must go further, one must go further." This impulse to go further is an ancient thing in the world. Heraclitus the obscure, who deposited his thoughts in his writings and deposited his writings in the Temple of Diana -- for his thoughts had been his armor in life, and so he left them in the temple of the goddess -- Heraclitus the obscure once said, "One cannot step into the same river twice." Heraclitus had a student who did not stop there; no, the student went further and added, "One cannot even step into the same river once!" Poor Heraclitus, to have had such a student as that! For by his amendment, the thesis of Heraclitus was so improved that it became the Eleatic thesis which denies movement, and yet the student desired only to be a disciple of Heraclitus ... and to go further -- not back to the position that Heraclitus had already abandoned.
Fear and Trembling, 1843
Søren Kierkegaard

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1. We walked upright out of Africa and we haven't stopped since. nt

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3. More precisely: our ancestors began human somewhere in Africa and some began to disperse

from the original place (wherever it was), eventually filling Africa and then much of the remaining world

[rrneck]

4. True that. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. go west, young man. to the moon, Alice! and more:

Heraclitus
Heraclitus must have lived after Xenophanes and Pythagoras, as he condemns them along with Homer as proving that much learning cannot teach a man to think; since Parmenides refers to him in the past tense, this would place him in the 5th century BCE.[20] Contrary to the Milesian school, who would have one stable element at the root of all, Heraclitus taught that "everything flows" or "everything is in flux," the closest element to this flux being fire; he also extended the teaching that seeming opposites in fact are manifestations of a common substrate to good and evil itself.[21]

Eleatics
Parmenides of Elea cast his philosophy against those who held "it is and is not the same and not the same, and all things travel in opposite directions," by which only Heraclitus and those who follow him can have been meant.[22] Whereas the doctrines of the Milesian school, in suggesting that the substratum could appear in a variety of different guises, implied that everything that exists is corpuscular, Parmenides argued that the first principle of being was One, indivisible, and unchanging.[23] Being, he argued, by definition implies eternality, while only that which is can be thought; a thing which is, moreover, cannot be more or less, and so the rarefaction and condensation of the Melisians is impossible regarding Being; lastly, as movement requires that something exist apart from the thing moving (viz. the space into which it moves), the One or Being cannot move since this would require that "space" both exist and not exist.[24] While this doctrine is at odds with experience, where things do indeed change and move, the Eleatic school followed Parmenides in denying that sense phenomena revealed the world as it actually was; instead, the only thing with Being was thought, or the question of whether something exists or not is one of whether it can be thought.[25]

In support of this, Parmenides' pupil Zeno of Elea attempted to prove that the concept of motion was absurd and as such motion did not exist. He also attacked the subsequent development of pluralism, arguing that it was incompatible with Being.[26] His arguments are known as Zeno's paradoxes.

more at link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_philosophy#Heraclitus

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8. Nice link, Tuesday!

Ancient Greek philosophy in a nutshell!

[Tuesday Afternoon]

11. thanks and your welcome. was my pleasure

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9. A Heraclitus quote:

"Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. that math holds true even today, I think ...

and even in the mundane workplace it holds up.

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5. You never learn a concept so well...

...as when you teach it to others.

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6. !

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7. What??

You are teacher?

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12. Soren is my homeboy.