Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:28 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
Can we discuss the Technological Singularity here (and the movie "Her")? It's philosophical.The technological singularity, or simply the singularity, is a hypothetical moment in time when artificial intelligence will have progressed to the point of a greater-than-human intelligence, radically changing civilization, and perhaps human nature.[1] Since the capabilities of such an intelligence may be difficult for a human to comprehend, the technological singularity is often seen as an occurrence (akin to a gravitational singularity) beyond which the future course of human history is unpredictable or even unfathomable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity Spoiler warning if you havent seen the movie "Her".
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rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | OP |
CJCRANE | Feb 2014 | #1 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #2 | |
CJCRANE | Feb 2014 | #3 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #4 | |
CJCRANE | Feb 2014 | #9 | |
bananas | Feb 2014 | #5 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #6 | |
tiny elvis | Feb 2014 | #12 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #7 | |
CJCRANE | Feb 2014 | #10 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #11 | |
rhett o rick | Feb 2014 | #8 |
Response to rhett o rick (Original post)
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 09:33 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
1. Yes we can. I just had a vision of a post-singularity world after reading this.
Sort of like an anthill with autonomous cars moving around all over the planet, all networked together.
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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 09:40 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
2. That's your vision of life after the singularity? nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #2)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:04 AM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
3. *SPOILER* In William Gibson's "Neuromancer"
the internet reeaches a critical mass of complexity and becomes self-aware, it becomes a huge intelligent entity. That is one version of the singularity.
I was probably influenced by this idea, because after reading your post, an image popped into my mind, of all the cars in the world moving around without direct human control, all networked together. This is already feasible. In the future more and more machines and objects will join the network. When the amount of human input needed to keep everything running becomes zero...maybe that's when the singularity happens. |
Response to CJCRANE (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 10:18 AM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
4. I have, in part, used "Neuromancer" to influence my image of what will happen
at the singularity. My friend also. We just argue about the details. Like whether the robots will keep us like pets or do away with us altogether. We both saw the movie, "Her" and were surprised at the ending. If you haven't seen it, I wont spoil it and recommend you see it. But warn that I may discuss the ending in this thread.
"Neuromancer" reminded me (or visa versa) of "Blade Runner." |
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:36 PM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
9. The stage just before the singularity is also interesting...
Later on I had this image of robots picking tea leaves on a tea plantation in India and I got to thinking (as I'm sure others have done before me)...
What happens when the robots can do *everything* for us? That is when they can till our fields, pick our crops, build our houses and machines, do our cleaning, cook our meals, drive our cars, deliver pizzas etc. etc. What happens to money and profit when there are no jobs left for people to do? No jobs means no wages means no consumers means no corporate profits... |
Response to rhett o rick (Original post)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 11:42 AM
bananas (27,509 posts)
5. Noam Chomsky: The Singularity is Science Fiction!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017150117
Chomsky is correct about classical computing. However, that might not apply to biological computers or quantum computers. Also, classical computing could create "philosophical zombie" computers. |
Response to bananas (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:35 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
6. Do you agree with Chomsky? nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:56 AM
tiny elvis (979 posts)
12. i do
computation machines have no will
they are not self sustaining even if our will and awareness were mechanical, we cannot reproduce their functions neither will our adding machines become willful by accident do your own mechanically reducible functions, your senses and thought, make up the whole of your self? |
Response to rhett o rick (Original post)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 04:08 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
7. It there no one that wants to discuss the singularity? nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #7)
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 07:20 AM
CJCRANE (18,184 posts)
10. There isn't much traffic in this forum by the looks of it.
Maybe you could post it in the Skeptics Group, Movies, Science Fiction or even General Discussion.
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Response to CJCRANE (Reply #10)
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 02:26 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
11. Yeah I agree. nm
Response to rhett o rick (Original post)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 05:46 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
8. Kick