The VIDEO: Glenn Greenwald/Michael Hayden Debate on NSA Surveillance Program

[KoKo]

Find Two Hours To Watch Glenn Greenwald Debate Michael Hayden[/b

If you have (a little less than) 2 hours this weekend, find a way to sit down and watch the mother of all debates about the NSA surveillance program, in which former CIA and NSA boss Michael Hayden and reporter Glenn Greenwald debate each other. Hayden had (in)famous law professor Alan Dershowitz on his side, and Greenwald had Reddit founder Alexis Ohanian on his side, and they both had their interesting moments, but this debate was all about Greenwald v. Hayden and they did not disappoint.

Greenwald knocked it out of the park. Hayden came off as condescending and evasive, while Greenwald had facts readily at hand. Hayden said he wanted to debate on the actual facts, and Greenwald brought a bunch, which Hayden didn't respond to. Dershowitz kept insisting that it was all okay because the people at the NSA had proper motives (I don't recall where in the 4th Amendment there's an exception for motives). Meanwhile, Ohanian highlighted how the NSA is actually making us all less secure and massively harming the economy. The video of the debate is below, but you have to skip ahead to 29 minutes.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/05/02/livestream-munk-debate-surveillance-greenwald-hayden/


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140502/17545627105/find-two-hours-to-watch-glenn-greenwald-debate-michael-hayden.shtml

[Cleita]

1. Thanks KoKo, I will keep it on my list of things to do.

In the meantime did you hear this joke about the NSA? It goes something like this. "It's the only government bureaucracy you can get to sit down and listen to you." Too silly?

[rhett o rick]

2. Dershowitz isnt very smart if he thinks we'd fall for "they have good motives."

I am sure Joe Goebbels thought the H-man had good motives.

[SamKnause]

3. Thank you for posting the link.

I am watching it now.

[SamKnause]

4. Excellent debate, thanks again.

[KoKo]

5. Thank YOU for finding it here and taking the time to watch it!

What I like about a DU Group is that a post can stay up long enough for folks to go back and read a link or video.

Things scroll through so fast out in the Main Forums it's hard for us all to keep up with them. And, "out of site...out of mind" means we miss some good stuff we just can't get to when it first posts.

Thanks for being here!

[cantbeserious]

6. Thank You For Sharing

eom