Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:52 PM

virgdem (1,959 posts)

I am proud to be part of the Sanders group...

After watching the debate last night, I'm no longer convinced that Hilary is a true democrat. More like a Republican in Democrats clothing. I've been voting since 1976, Democratic all the way, and I'm simply appalled at the tactics that team Hilary is using. In all my years of voting, I've never seen the supporters of one candidate attacked, demeaned and trashed the way Sanders supporters have been. This is not the way Democrats are supposed to act toward one another and it is indicative of the rightward turn our party has taken in recent years. That this tactic by Hilary is accepted and even pushed by the party elite is despicable.

I can no longer vote for the lesser of two evils. I'm considering going Independent if Hilary wins the nomination. I choose to vote my conscience this time. Hilary is trashing the party with her tactics and I don't think she really cares what damage she is doing to the democratic brand. Her blind ambition knows no limits and the deployment of republican tactics will win her no converts in her quest to gain crown and scepter.

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I am proud to be part of the Sanders group... (Original post)	virgdem	Feb 2016	OP
I can't tell you how many times I have been hippy punched here.	Kalidurga	Feb 2016	#1
Considering that Bernie echoes FDR policies, FDR was not a hippy but a very rich entitled man	Cleita	Feb 2016	#2
Thank you	Kalidurga	Feb 2016	#3
Definitely! And back then, republicans and democrats often worked together to achieve the best they	RKP5637	Feb 2016	#5
I just mailed in my ballot for Bernie, mainly because I want to see some real change. It's not that	RKP5637	Feb 2016	#4
I agree..	virgdem	Feb 2016	#6
Yep!!! We agree +++ 1,000% +++ We've been in a rut for several decades now. I'm impressed with	RKP5637	Feb 2016	#7
Hopefully, with Bernie, we will see better times!	virgdem	Feb 2016	#8
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Feb 2016	#9

Response to virgdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:54 PM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

1. I can't tell you how many times I have been hippy punched here.

And I just wish I was a life long hippy. But, alas no a lot of my life was spent among very conservative people and some rubbed off, not enough to make me an actual conservative, but enough to keep me from going all out hippy.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:04 PM

Cleita (75,480 posts)

2. Considering that Bernie echoes FDR policies, FDR was not a hippy but a very rich entitled man

who had to come into the light to save our country. Actually, there was a mention on Thom Hartmann this morning by a caller that people should go look at the campaigns of the forties and fifties and they will see that what Bernie proposes today is very much what the presidential candidates back in those decades proposed both Democratic and many Republican.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:08 PM

Kalidurga (14,177 posts)

3. Thank you

see people can overcome their social status to do the right things. I wish FDR wasn't the one they hold up for obvious reasons though.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:15 PM

RKP5637 (64,913 posts)

5. Definitely! And back then, republicans and democrats often worked together to achieve the best they

could despite differences. My father was a prominent democratic politician back then, and many of his best friends were republicans, because they all worked together. They knew they had differences, but always started off with lets get this done. Today, I'm fed up with all of the bickering between parties. It's stupid and unproductive.

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Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:09 PM

RKP5637 (64,913 posts)

4. I just mailed in my ballot for Bernie, mainly because I want to see some real change. It's not that

I significantly dislike Hillary, but rather that I think many things would remain the same under Hillary. I'm also what I guess one would call an old Millennial. Bernie reminds me of many I admired in my youth, the old time democrats that kicked ass if necessary.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:22 PM

virgdem (1,959 posts)

6. I agree..

Hilary is not a change candidate. She will keep the status quo and do the bidding of the 1%. And that is not progress. I, like you, don't hate her, but I totally dislike her smear tactics along with the arrogance and entitlement that she endlessly displays. The Democratic party was much more successful when they actually fought for the working and middle class folks. That started to change when Ronnie Raygun took power in 1980, with the attacks on unions, high interest rates and Reaganomics. We've never recovered from that debacle of a presidency (I have a political pin that says "I survived the Reagan years" and that's about all we all did-survive). Then the Turd way DLC took over and it was all over but the crying.

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Response to virgdem (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:37 PM

RKP5637 (64,913 posts)

7. Yep!!! We agree +++ 1,000% +++ We've been in a rut for several decades now. I'm impressed with

how Millennials are picking up on what needs to be done. And what has really disgusted me has been the democratic parties rightward march and in many cases the abandonment working and middle class folks. I'm looking forward to better times.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:41 PM

virgdem (1,959 posts)

8. Hopefully, with Bernie, we will see better times!

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