Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumOkay, about the racism from Bernie caucus goers... let's get one thing clear
It does not help matters to be apologists or give the benefit of the doubt in this scenario. This is exactly the opposite of the "Together" theme.
We will see if there is video or other proof, that's a given. Wait and see
But doubting voices are going to make racism effective.
DON'T DO IT.
If you cannot give the victim s of racism of the benefit of the doubt, withhold your opinion and say nothing at all.
I'm just telling you how it actually works.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)many, many lies from Her side.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)If you can't admit that. say nothing
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)In that one, I couldn't hear anyone shouting 'English only'. Also saw twitter post from someone who said she was there, and she said no one shouted 'English only', but rather that they asked for a 'neutral' interpreter, ie one who wasn't in the bag for Hillary.
SamKnause
(13,088 posts)All that can be heard is a person shouting neutral.
A person that was at the caucus said the people wanted a
neutral translator, instead of the lady that supports Hillary.
She said what they are saying about shouting English never happened.
?????
Who knows ???
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)so that everyone can understand what is being said during voting. As some do now speak Spanish.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)post
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)It happens every day. Even if there is proof it didn't happen, it doesn't matter anyway. The denial that it did does more damage than admitting that it's likely true. What is most important here is that it is very clear that Bernie is not like this. That it makes it look like Bernie is a racist is a problem.
Playing defense does not help. Admit it's possible, even probable, denounce it and move on.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)What you are saying is crazy. I could say I was at a party and HRC told me something and you would have to do what you are asking me to do?
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Good luck then
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)I'm a black Bernie supporter and know a hell of a lot more about this than most.
All you need to know is that it's probably better to trust poc perspective since it actually concerns us directly.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)Sorry!
There is a lot going on tonight and I did not read your complete OP.
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)All good
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)That's really all we can say about it.
Don't play defense. If that happened, it's totally disgusting. Move to next topic.
I watched the 22 second video and have no clue what's going on in it. Whatever happened we know that translation service and other languages should be respected. That's it. We shouldn't get into arguments about it. There is nothing to argue about. Let the threads sink.
You can't win arguments like that.
jillan
(39,451 posts)supporters.
It should never have happened. We can agree on that. Ok?
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)That's what people need to know.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Snopes posted the video and the only thing anybody said was they wanted a neutral translator.
It was a complete lie on their side. Disaster averted.
jillan
(39,451 posts)So bad this happened
Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)Happened in '08 too.