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tblue37

(65,336 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:08 PM Mar 2016

I just got a call from a volunteer with the HRC campaign. I told her I supported Bernie,

said, sounding surprised, "You're a Bernie supporter?"

"Yes," I said, "and you should be, too, if you ever want a chance to take our country back from the banksters, the corporations, and the 1%. Besides, the polls show that Bernie would mop the floor with any of the Republican candidates, while Hillary shows just a 1-point lead over Trump--which is within the margin of error--and losing badly to all of the other possible candidates. Maybe you should give some thought to this information and switch sides."

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I just got a call from a volunteer with the HRC campaign. I told her I supported Bernie, (Original Post) tblue37 Mar 2016 OP
K&R great line! Mbrow Mar 2016 #1
Just stop it.. MMTampa Mar 2016 #28
What, pray tell, are you talking about? MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #39
I'm not. In fact things are going better than I thought. Stryder Mar 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Yuugal Mar 2016 #59
Overconfidence, thy name is Hillary supporters. Cheap_Trick Mar 2016 #64
You'll be really sorry when your candidate loses to Trump. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #65
Excellent work. thereismore Mar 2016 #2
Nope. A 65-year-old white woman. Maybe that is why she thought I would support Hillary. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #4
Oh yes. That too. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #5
We need to start a group: Old Fartettes for Bernie? (Old Peacetitties for Bernie?) Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #45
Preach it sister! tblue37 Mar 2016 #49
Bernie-Bras? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #55
I'll join that group! mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #57
Any reply or did she just hang up? n/t sarge43 Mar 2016 #3
She was very polite. She thanked me for my time and then I thanked her tblue37 Mar 2016 #6
Well done to you both. n/t sarge43 Mar 2016 #9
+1 Bubzer Mar 2016 #12
Both Polite Gilmore Tuttle Mar 2016 #63
I find the Hillary supporters both here and in real life cultish. Every time I say I'm a Bernie Cleita Mar 2016 #7
Omg that is exactly how my aunt responded abelenkpe Mar 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author fullautohotdog Mar 2016 #26
I no longer call this "Hillary Hypnosis." I now called it "Extreme Obsession" desmiller Mar 2016 #27
I think they get that look and walk away because they are afraid they're going to have to defend her Akicita Mar 2016 #70
I can hear the teeth gnashing now... CentralMass Mar 2016 #8
Awesome. Thank you. djean111 Mar 2016 #10
I bet you were the topic of conversation after that call. jillan Mar 2016 #11
Maybe--or maybe they get those kinds of responses all the time. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #19
Good answer!!!! Woot! jillan Mar 2016 #31
K&R! dchill Mar 2016 #13
Awesome! Why would anyone be surprised LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #14
Well, she was a Woman, you know. HRC supporters kind of expect that as a given. n/t libdem4life Mar 2016 #43
Ironically, my local Bernie group has more women than men. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #66
Bravo blondie58 Mar 2016 #15
What a pleasant exchange! emulatorloo Mar 2016 #16
Yes, it was. That's the thing. We are all on the same side--or at least we tblue37 Mar 2016 #23
I don't know............ Plucketeer Mar 2016 #37
I don't see it. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #61
OK, that does it Ligyron Mar 2016 #17
I don't normally go to the Hillary group. It is a protected group, so I consider it tblue37 Mar 2016 #21
I am sorry I forgot the sarcasm tag Ligyron Mar 2016 #25
I never went there to troll, but being a Sanders supporter was enough for them to ban me. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #38
Nice job! Are you also phonebanking for Bernie at all? You'd be terrific! JudyM Mar 2016 #20
No--because I am *severely* hearing impaired. In fact, it took three tries tblue37 Mar 2016 #22
So sorry to hear that... Well I love the awesome job you did with her! JudyM Mar 2016 #29
No persuasion if you're doing texting - just send the reminders, send address to poll location, etc. Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #52
Cool! Going to check that out. JudyM Mar 2016 #58
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #24
I've gotten calls from the DNC and I support that response Little_Wing Mar 2016 #30
I got a call from a Bernie volunteer this morning. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #32
k and r Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #33
Excellent testimony, tblue. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #34
I enjoy reading about other Bernie supporters' experiences, which is why I decided to share mine. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #35
Oh, BTW--I am tblue37. tblue is a different DUer. ALthough I have never met her, tblue37 Mar 2016 #41
I will keep that in mind. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #47
Well done. Good job! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #36
That's a very good response... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #40
I keep sending them back their mailers RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #42
Send Bernie literature instead eridani Mar 2016 #48
probably not greymouse Mar 2016 #50
That firm would employ people--in a very boring job eridani Mar 2016 #53
no greymouse Mar 2016 #62
Hmm, good idea! n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #60
Thank you for your great on-the-ball thinking! Excellent reply! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #46
OP, good idea greymouse Mar 2016 #51
Bookmarking this for sheer power of conviction. Recommend it too. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #54
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #56
I got a call from an HRC volunter who kept going on about "hardworking Americans" - I CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #67
Gee, maybe I ought to stop screening calls Fritz Walter Mar 2016 #68
They don't call me. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #69
"Maybe you should give some thought to this information and switch sides." Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #71
This woman was very polite. Besides, some people support a candidate because they tblue37 Mar 2016 #72

MMTampa

(82 posts)
28. Just stop it..
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

Really guys, just stop it right now. Sorry about the Bernie situation. Really, sorry. So really sorry. No, really sorry...

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
39. What, pray tell, are you talking about?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

To you want to stop the happy thought upon hearing the story of the caller and response was to encourage support of Bernie Sanders?

Is there some trauma associated with that?

Stryder

(450 posts)
44. I'm not. In fact things are going better than I thought.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

But I do appreciate your sincerity. (Oh, and we will not stop.)

Response to Stryder (Reply #44)

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
65. You'll be really sorry when your candidate loses to Trump.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

She doesn't attract independents or Millennials and Republicans will crawl naked over glass to vote against her. Add an FBI investigation and possible indictment over her head and she'll be lucky to win some blue states, much less the purple ones.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
45. We need to start a group: Old Fartettes for Bernie? (Old Peacetitties for Bernie?)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:07 AM
Mar 2016

I'm getting real disgusted with my demographic (born in the year of The Bomb, campaigned for JFK in 1960, when I was 16). Hillary Clinton is a disaster for feminism and for everything else.

Just learned this week that she has Henry Frigging Kissinger for an advisor. And now, PNAC's Robert Kagan!!! Do we have to do THAT all over again? Christ! Yes--Hillary the neo-con! She might as well be Maggie Thatcher! Worse. She might as well be Bush in those guys' bloody hands. And how dare they use my lifetime feminist struggle, and your lifetime feminist struggle, and every woman's lifetime feminist struggle as a MASK FOR WAR!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!

See my comments on what Susan Sarandon said. There is FEAR in Hollywood of the bully "Alpha" girls. Fear! People "won't come out for Bernie" because they "fear being shamed"! I kid you not. WTF is going on!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141368021
(last comment)

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
49. Preach it sister!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016
And how dare they use my lifetime feminist struggle, and your lifetime feminist struggle, and every woman's lifetime feminist struggle as a MASK FOR WAR!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!


(BTW, I was 10 in 1960.)

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
57. I'll join that group!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:47 AM
Mar 2016

A lot of us 60ish women (I'll be 65 in less than week) broke glass ceilings or were otherwise the token female in male dominated professions. Hillary is the old style "do it the way the guys did it" to
get power. I do believe that's one reason she's so hawkish...she wants to show her "balls" to the guys she wants to play with, much the same way Trump has to talk about
the size of his dick.

I proudly voted for Bernie yesterday in early voting in NC--and so did my 73 year old husband.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
6. She was very polite. She thanked me for my time and then I thanked her
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

for listening, asked her to think about what I had said, and then said goodbye.

I suspect that I won't get any more calls from that campaign, though, since the volunteer probably made a note that I would try to persuade callers to switch sides.

ON EDIT: We were BOTH polite and friendly. I think that is important.

 

Gilmore Tuttle

(9 posts)
63. Both Polite
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

There was a time when opposing politicos only went after positions on issues. Nowadays, positions, issues and the concerns of the electorate are of little consequence. When I see the conduct of the Republican candidates, I wonder who stinks the worst, since they're all rubbing shit in their hair.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. I find the Hillary supporters both here and in real life cultish. Every time I say I'm a Bernie
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

supporter, they get that deer in headlights look and walk away.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
18. Omg that is exactly how my aunt responded
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

Mind you she's well off, wife of a retired lobbyists in Northern VA. She's passionate about electing a woman and doesn't understand why younger generations are attracted to Bernie. Her mom loved FDR though and so she sees his plans as attractive but unattainable.

Response to Cleita (Reply #7)

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
70. I think they get that look and walk away because they are afraid they're going to have to defend her
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

It is much easier to just blindly follow her than to try to defend her past and present. I have seen many of her supporters who claim to be feminists start sputtering when I press them to defend Hillary "We must destroy her story" Clinton's treatment of Bill's sex abuse victims. Much easier to walk away. A few here on DU have walked away when I have brought up the subject rather than try to defend her.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
14. Awesome! Why would anyone be surprised
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

to learn that a voter favors Bernie? I frankly would be surprised to find out someone was a Hillary supporter since I've never met one.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
66. Ironically, my local Bernie group has more women than men.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

And the women range from all ages. They're aren't just a bunch of "young'ens."

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
23. Yes, it was. That's the thing. We are all on the same side--or at least we
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:50 PM
Mar 2016

should be. We should not act as though the People's Front of Judea are our blood enemies, because we need to come together in November to defeat the real bad guys, no matter which candidate wins the Democratic nomination. With the likelihood of three vacancies on the SCOTUS, too much is at stake to risk a GOP president.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
21. I don't normally go to the Hillary group. It is a protected group, so I consider it
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

their private property and would not want to trespass by going there to voice my support for HRC's opponent. The only times I have ever gone to the Hillary group have been when I had something nice to say about her.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
38. I never went there to troll, but being a Sanders supporter was enough for them to ban me.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016

They seem unusually frightened.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
22. No--because I am *severely* hearing impaired. In fact, it took three tries
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

before I could even figure out that the woman was calling from Hillary's campaign. I had to keep asking her to speak up and to speak more slowly so I could understand what she was saying.

Even when wearing my hearing aids, I rely heavily on lipreading to understand--and I get a lot wrong anyway.

I use both closed captioning AND the volume up all the way to follow TV.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
29. So sorry to hear that... Well I love the awesome job you did with her!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016

There's texting for Bernie too, but I'm not sure if there's any persuasion involved.



Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
52. No persuasion if you're doing texting - just send the reminders, send address to poll location, etc.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:02 AM
Mar 2016

They also now have Facebanking for Bernie on Facebook - which works like any type of messaging.

Had my first Facebank contact me last night. He was wonderful (I am already involved in campaign, but was age of my grown kids, so I let him tell me all about how excited he was about Bernie and why.)

The contact mode is either a friend, or a friend of a friend who has "liked" one of the pages/groups identified with Bernie (so not total strangers, no more than one degree of separation).

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
30. I've gotten calls from the DNC and I support that response
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:16 PM
Mar 2016

I've politely expressed my disagreement with Bernie's treatment by the DNC. Then I explain my meager income and that the only person I could imagine supporting was Bernie Sanders. And would you please pass that along.
I wonder if the PTB hears that? I see no evidence of that.
It is so frustrating to not get to vote until June (California). Hope Bernie can hang in there.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
32. I got a call from a Bernie volunteer this morning.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:32 PM
Mar 2016

After saying "Hello" she went into a short speech and asked if I would be voting for Bernie next Tuesday.

My one word response, "Absolutely".

She then said that was all she needed to hear and thanked me.

I thanked her for taking the time to volunteer and the conversation ended.


I am guessing it took about 20 seconds from start to finish.








tblue37

(65,336 posts)
35. I enjoy reading about other Bernie supporters' experiences, which is why I decided to share mine. nt
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
41. Oh, BTW--I am tblue37. tblue is a different DUer. ALthough I have never met her,
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:22 PM
Mar 2016

we call each other "cuz" because of the similarity of our DU nicknames.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
40. That's a very good response...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

As a Bernie phone banker, I can tell you that persons answering me who supported Hillary didn't use the same strategy in their response. One woman said in a rather terse way that she couldn't understand why every woman wasn't supporting Hillary. Since I know that I should not respond TO that, I just let her talk and then thanked her for her time. When that type of call is finished, I simply mark in who they support or are leaning towards, if not Bernie. I move on after.

This response of yours was a thoughtful one. Good on you!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
42. I keep sending them back their mailers
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:25 PM
Mar 2016

with a pocket full of pennies in the prepaid postage envelopes!

greymouse

(872 posts)
50. probably not
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:44 AM
Mar 2016

They have probably hired a firm to process mail donations, so any comments, etc. just get tossed.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
53. That firm would employ people--in a very boring job
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:18 AM
Mar 2016

Plenty would look at literature just for the distraction, IMO.

greymouse

(872 posts)
62. no
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

I'm sure they have no way to feedback about that, if they even cared.

Plus having worked as assembly line type jobs, I can tell you you work as fast as possible or get in trouble. Each worker there probably can open an envelope get a check out and discard the envelope and anything else in it in about one second.

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
67. I got a call from an HRC volunter who kept going on about "hardworking Americans" - I
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

told her I was voting for Bernie because he was on my side and she wasn't. This person immediately responded with "But wouldn't you agree that hardworking Americans..." and I don't know what else she was going to say because I interrupted and told her that I wasn't a hardworking American because I don't work, that lots of people are retired and or just can't work, and to please not call me again. I should have added that I don't respond to dog whistles.

Yeah, like Hillary gives two fucks about "hardworking Americans" - unless they work on Wall Street.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
68. Gee, maybe I ought to stop screening calls
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

I'm getting LOTS of calls from unfamiliar numbers and I ALWAY let those roll over to voicemail. The callers never leave messages, so I figure I'm avoiding personally telling someone to go to hell.

And you have a lot more tact than I do. My instinct would be to challenge them to persuade their ideal candidate to release scripts or transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches, explain how Bill and his bullhorn did not violate electioneering laws in Massachusetts, and justify DWS and DNC's anti-Bernie shenanigans. This call would not end well for either party.

Stay strong, my friend!

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
71. "Maybe you should give some thought to this information and switch sides."
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

Really? You told them that? Might as well have conversation with a tomato. If you present facts to a Hillary supporter, they'll not only turn red with anger, they'll deny the facts. With a tomato, they won't get angry with you and they're already red, so save yourself the trouble with HRC supporters.

Yes, I know, tomatoes are only red when they're ripe. Hillary supporters are ripe with daily fresh BS and newly found anger at the truth.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
72. This woman was very polite. Besides, some people support a candidate because they
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

don't stop to realize there are better alternatives. I seriously doubt I changed her mind, but maybe hearing someone speak calmly and intelligently in Bernie's favor caused her to stop and think for a moment.

I have verifiably caused low-info voters, usually young ones, to switch from GOP to Dem. Often people vote out of misguided brand loyalty, and that can be true in a primary as well as in a general election.

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