i smell blood in the water......

[restorefreedom]

something has changed...the winds have shifted

huge wins this weekend in 3 out of 4 states
5 million individual contributions
tonights debate...the audience is going nuts
bernie has a new confidence while she is defensive and on the ropes

something feels......different

[Fawke Em]

1. I think people saw the South stupidly vote for her

(and, yes, you and I are Southern, so we can say that. LOL) and have ramped up efforts to GOTV in other states. We've seen a wave of elections with overwhelming turnout in the past few days.

[Cleita]

6. A lot of us are fed up with the stupid vote. It doesn't have to come from the south either.

There's a lot of stupid vote east, north and west. It's just that the stupid vote not only affects the people who voted stupidly, but it affects and causes the rest of us to suffer too. I'm certain that all those people suffering from the incompetence in Michigan that let to the Flint disaster, did not vote for Gov. Snyder, but they have to suffer just the same.

I believe it's mobilizing people to try to neutralize it when it pops up.

[klook]

15. There is the stupid vote, and then there's the frightened vote.

I'm Southern too, btw, so I'd like to join y'all over here in the corner for some RC Cola and a Moon Pie. (Please go ahead and call the ambulance! )

I think there is a faction voting for Clinton that are united in their fear of an effective GE smear campaign against Sanders. Their hearts often lie with Sanders's policy ideas, but they're afraid to take it to the next level and actually vote for him. They're more scared of losing than they are excited about winning, really winning.

I think those fearful voters are wrong, because Bernie's message resonates with more voters and he has a better chance of prevailing in November.

[Fawke Em]

26. You're very right.

I happen to live in a pretty liberal area of Tennessee and my neighborhood and city voted for Bernie, so I'm not very familiar with these voters, but it does seem to me like a lot of people are more frightened than they're willing to admit.

What makes this worse is that she actually does worse against the Republicans than he does - in fact she loses to all of them and only barely beats Trump. If they are truly scared of losing, they should be voting for him.

[klook]

40. Correctamundo.

Personally, I not only want the best candidate as our nominee, but I want the one who can beat the Republicans and inspire record turnout in the process. That's Bernie Sanders.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

55. Bernie mentioned that he does better against Rs than Hillary does. Good point.

[pangaia]

28. It would never occur to them to attack on Christmas Eve.

[elljay]

44. Just had that conversation

with my mother, who lives in Florida. She loathes Trump and said she doesn't want to take a chance that Trump will win, so she has to vote for Hillary. I tried explaining that the polls show that Bernie is a stronger candidate against Trump, but she wasn't getting it....

Persuaded my brother, who lives in California, to get on the Bernie train today, so I'm 1 for 2. More persuading to come.

[Aha]

57. Simply tell your mom this:

A vote for Clinton is a vote for Trump period.

My mom got this message as well.

[elljay]

58. Will give it a try!

She's a stubborn one, though. I may enlist another relative or two to work on her!

[davidpdx]

60. I will be telling my mom this

But I'm almost 100% sure she agrees already.

[blondie58]

66. One fact about Hillary That Really riles me

Is her personal net worth! It is obscene in This Country- that a politician can amass $45 million net worth. A politician!

She is One of the 1%. I am not Voting for her. That And her Habit of changing views and not being sintere.
Oh, and hubby Bill Breaking the Law in NC with his bullhorn. They aren't above the. Law!

I am going to phonebank for Bernie this week. We have to elect him. I have been waiting my entire life for a candidate like him.

[mrmpa]

68. We had a mayor here in Pittsburgh..........

there's a statue of him on the steps of the City-County Building, who always was employed by the City, I believe his salary as Mayor was never more than $60,000 a year...........yet he died a millionaire. No one ever questioned this.

[blondie58]

71. Wow! The people should

Always question this. They DO work or us.

[mrmpa]

82. They did & they kept voting for him.........

he died while in office. I met his sons on zoning issues after his death. They were investing their own wealth into various businesses. His wife lived in a home which is now valued at a Bit over $1 million.

It is crazy. I have an anecdote. A young man was working for a City Councilman. The Councilman asked the young man to work with him on Saturday. He met the Councilman who then drove him to various businesses. At the stores, taverns, etc. the councilman asked the kid to go in and tell & tell them that he was in the car & bring whatever they had form out to the car. Each time he brought a brown paper bag.

The Councilman asked him if he was interested what was in the bag. The kid said NO, however the Councilman opened one bag and showed the kid a bunch of money and then stated, "Ain't America Great."

[kristopher]

91. Got any peanuts for that RC?

[Fawke Em]

113. I like RC with Moonpies, but I like Coke to drop my peanuts in.

[kristopher]

115. Sorry, but Moonpies'll gag a maggot.

[Fawke Em]

123. If you get them fresh, they're pure joy.

The problem is they're not all that popular anymore so the ones sitting on the shelf have probably been there for three decades. LOL.

[kristopher]

125. I'll trade you my pie for your peanuts.

What I really, really miss are boiled green peanuts.

[jwirr]

112. Agree. One of my grandsons is like that. When he came to

go with me to the caucus the first thing he said to me was "are you ready to go and vote for Trump?. He is very afraid of losing to trump.

Ironically our Dem caucus had one vote for Trump and I suspect it was my jokester. Luckily the vote was overwhelming for Bernie.

[Xipe Totec]

104. I don't blame them. Most had never even heard of Sanders. That was by design, DWS & DNC. nt

[Cleita]

114. I don't even blame them. I blame the Christian fundamentalists and evangelicals for turning

the votes. They preach to their congregations whom to vote for. This is a violation of separation of Church and State and they should have their tax free statuses revoked. Yet I hear our candidates being asked at last night's debate questions about God and what they pray for. There was no way they graciously could have told those people to mind their own business. That religious belief and prayer are very private for the most part. Of course Dame Hillary had been at the church of the woman who breached one of the questions by her own admission.

I don't want Christianity or any religion in my government. That takes us back to the Middle Ages.

[Xipe Totec]

117. You make excellent points, as always! nt

[eridani]

85. I'm not exactly proud of some rural areas in WA State myself n/t

[Mike__M]

102. I'm in Lewis County WA. . .

would you like meet my neighbors?

In his campaign speech, the winning candidate for our city (pop ~500) council made it pretty clear that teaching evolution causes teenagers to riot and loot Wal-Mart stores. The nearest Wal-Mart is 20 miles away, and has never had a riot, so our handful of local teenagers must be very determined, to travel out of state to riot because they've been taught that they're savages.
Not only that, our town doesn't even have a f**king school in which to teach evolution--a routine maintenance bond failed, twice, so the school had to shut down. The school site is leased to someone who grazes goats there now.

Stupid may occur in pockets, but it's not limited to one region.

[Cleita]

116. Yet idiots like that make decisions that impact you as well as the stupid people who voted for them.

[Aquavit]

2. Something is happening...

Even Anderson Cooper said "Senator Sanders is right" about the exim bank. That's the first time I've heard any of the screaming heads agree with Bernie!

[BernieforPres2016]

13. Don Lemon has gone after Hillary twice, particularly with the Super Predators question.

[Duckfan]

47. Yes. And he asked her the "little bit racist" question twice

And she slithered away from it both times with some rambling dissertation that went all over the place.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

18. I'm glad Anderson explained what the Export-Import Bank was.

I'm no economist, and I didn't know what it was.

[BernieforPres2016]

53. I know a good bit about it

I was shocked that Hillary brought it up in response to Bernie's criticism of her support for trade bills. It is a big corporate welfare boondoggle. Hillary trying to paint it as a small business thing was breathtaking in its audacity. Bernie said it is known in the Senate as "the bank of Boeing". It was great that Cooper followed up and said 75% of the Ex-Im money goes to large corporations.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

59. I thought I heard Bernie say 20% of the money went to small businesses.

[BernieforPres2016]

61. I don't remember him saying that

But Cooper said 75% goes to large business which would leave 25% for small business, so that's close enough. The point is that it is primarily a giant corporate welfare boondoggle program. Bernie sometimes finds himself on the same side of issues like that with the likes of Rand Paul, and I have no issue with that whatsoever. Nor do I think most independents will and that's why I think the more closely people look at Bernie the broader his appeal will be.

[kristopher]

92. Per the Congressional research service

...U.S. small businesses account for the majority of Ex-Im Bank’s transactions by number (89% in FY2014), while larger companies represent the majority by dollar amount. Ex-Im Bank reported that almost 56% of its total authorizations for FY2014 supported infrastructure projects.15

Ex-Im Bank has met its 20% small business target from Congress in some years, but has fallen short in other years, based on authorization amount (see Table 2). At the same time, small business transactions supported by the Bank constitute the majority of Ex-Im Bank’s transactions by number...

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43581.pdf pg 10




https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43581.pdf page 11

[lostnfound]

97. I think he said he pushed the provision to mandate at least 20%

Minimum of 20% must go to small business. I think he said he pushed for that provision.

[dana_b]

89. yes! I didn't know what that was either

and then they said that 70% went to corporations or to.... Boeing?? I swear it sounded like Bernie said "Boeing".

[lostnfound]

98. Yes, Boeing.

Ex Im gives credit to companies in foreign countries buying Boeing airplanes.

[pangaia]

29. Cooper actully seems pretty smart.

All he needs to do is get his head out of CNN's corporate ass.

[putitinD]

34. Anderson will probably get canned for that slip up.

[Duckfan]

48. I prefer Cooper moderating instead of Blitzer.

AC does seem to have "some good in him" as opposed to being on "the dark side".

[LittleGirl]

88. Wolf is awful

And Cooper can be dickish sometimes with his framing of questions, but I prefer him over Wolf. ugh.

[notadmblnd]

37. I read earlier today that the establishment was getting ready to throw Hillary under the bus

I didn't put much stock in it when I read it because it was a progressive pro Sanders website. The article had to do with the sysadmin who set up her private server being given immunity and the rumor that Hillary would be indicted sometime in May.

[klook]

46. That seems like a stretch.

I think the Dem establishment will stick with Clinton as long as possible. I also think it's a very long shot that she will suffer any legal consequences for the email business.

[bigbrother05]

95. If TPTB are aligned against Bernie, they'll keep her in regardless

If she were to drop out, Bernie would garner enough delegates to win on the 1st ballot. If HRC has to leave later on, the split count would give them the opportunity "select" a different candidate at the convention.

[Qutzupalotl]

76. That immunity is troubling. They don't grant that for nothing

nor can one invoke it for nothing. Before the bargain, I thought maybe there was no there there. Now I think there is.

[FighttheFuture]

99. It could also be a way to get to the heart of the questions and wrap it up. I think the Obama

administration wants this wrapped up ASAP, preferably before the convention. While nothing will probably come of it, if something does it can provide an escape before the convention to push someone else in. Sadly, I do not think they will rally behind Bernie, which, in a situation like this will all too likely mean the establishment will fracture the party and the R's win.

[Qutzupalotl]

103. Bernie has a good case to make if he stays in

until the convention, as he's promising. I agree that an establishment stand-in, especially after the convention, would not do as well. I don't even think Clinton will do well, even if she escapes unscathed.

[FighttheFuture]

120. I tend to agree. Polls do not show her winning against the R's except, maybe, Trump.

From CNN last week:

Dems vs Trump:
Clinton 52 - Trump 44
Sanders 55- Trump 43

Dems vs Rubio:
Clinton 47 - Rubio 50
Sanders 53- Rubio 45

Dems vs Cruz:
Clinton 48 - Cruz 49
Sanders 57- Cruz 40

[NowSam]

3. That is what I am seeing too

This is Bern time. Big time.

[Hydra]

4. There was the smell of terror all over her campaign until SC

They got some badly needed hail marys, but the terror is still lurking there. I'm still waiting for the shoe to drop that they don't want us to know about- the calls for Bernie to bow out are no calls from a camp that feels safe.

[restorefreedom]

5. great tweet from nina

Nina Turner ?@ninaturner
@BernieSanders is bringing the thunder tonight! #DemDebate

[wendylaroux]

35. ^^this exactly!!!!

He was spot on!! So proud we have him to vote for.

Won't have another one like him in my lifetime.

[restorefreedom]

39. right. its now or never! nt

[Duckfan]

49. I would like to see what a modern day FDR would be like in my lifetime too.

When you take some punches, give twice as many in return.

[restorefreedom]

52. yup. will be amazing. nt

[Rod Beauvex]

79. I would love a modern day FDR...

But I fear it will be another JFK.

The gravy train is at stake, after all.

[MissDeeds]

7. You nailed it perfectly

Bernie is speaking with more force and conviction and Hillary seems unfocused and angry.

She is changing the questions and answering what she feels comfortable answering.

Something has changed.

[restorefreedom]

8. yup, totally different vibe

and it feels good!

[RoccoR5955]

9. Clinton should just give up now

because Bernie has won it!

[restorefreedom]

10. he is just nailing this debate! nt

[leftcoastmountains]

11. Bernie's doing great in the debates!!!

[BernieforPres2016]

12. I hope a lot of independents are watching tonight

I think a lot of people may be looking and listening tonight and saying this guy is not as radical as I thought he was. I was thinking that particularly when he didn't pander on the gun issue where Hillary did.

[restorefreedom]

14. yup. it might have taken a few more wins

to get their attention

go bernie!!

[Mira]

16. There is a burnt smell in the air

in my personal opinion it is goose.
And it is cooked.

[restorefreedom]

17. sure seems like it. or perhaps a bernt smell lol nt

[Mira]

23. I wish I had been that clever

emotion had me in the grip

[restorefreedom]

24. it is an emotional night for sure! nt

[Mike__M]

107. Eeww... (n/t)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

19. Bernie promising free college by taxing Wall Street should get the Millenial vote.

Then he can add "free love and nickel beer" to his platform. (That's an old political joke.)

[restorefreedom]

20. if its nickel beer, its gotta be OLD lol nt

[Manifestor_of_Light]

21. Yep, LOL.

The grad student pub at Rice University, Valhalla, used to sell pitchers of beer on Friday afternoon for $1.25 and people would sit on the law of the Chemistry Building. Beer was 25 cents a cup. I was in graduate school at another school then, in the 1980s. I don't know how much cheap beer is now.

[restorefreedom]

22. 25 cents...sigh.....the good ol days...nt

[Duckfan]

50. Beer? Did someone say beer?

This round is for the group to celebrate a good night. On Me.

[restorefreedom]

54. excellent! thank you! glub glub nt

[chervilant]

62. Don't forget Willy's Pub.

Good times were had by all.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

67. Yes, in the Student Center.

I went to the Summer School for High School Students at Rice University and found out why the book store is named Sammy's... because Sammy the Owl is the mascot's name. Duh!!!

Another name I heard for the school: William Rice's Marsh. (Founder named William Marsh Rice. The butler killed him and James Baker's grandfather, founder of the Baker & Botts law firm, saved the estate to found the school. Back in 1900.

[chervilant]

73. Yes, my alma mater.

Glad you got to experience Rice U!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

74. Have had some good friends that went there.

My grades were not good enough. I graduated from Trinity in San Antonio.

[eridani]

86. How 20th century! You men WEed the People, right?

[passiveporcupine]

109. Trudeau is going to give away free money

Canada plans to experiment with giving people unconditional free money

Finland and the Netherlands have already shown their interest in giving people a regular monthly allowance regardless of working status, and now Ontario, Canada is onboard.

While one kneejerk reaction is to argue that free money creates a lazy working class, research suggests the opposite is true. Supported by the financial safety net, people in one 2013 study actually worked 17% longer hours and received 38% higher earnings when basic income was given a shot.

http://www.techinsider.io/ontario-announces-basic-income-plan-2016-3

I wonder if Bernie will consider playing with this if he's elected and Canada's plan seems to be working. I also read in the Guardian that millennials all around the globe are experiencing the lowest wages since we've been recording this information. The recession, high home prices and rent, and low wages and globalism have all had their impact. Maybe it's time to look at home prices too, although so many people's wealth (if you can call it that) is tied up in their homes, it would most likely be impossible to try to make an adjustment to match incomes. We'll have to do it the other way...bring incomes up to match current cost of living.

I'm thinking that globalism has worked to lower wages in the US better than we even know yet.

[Bubzer]

25. So...NOW she wants to set big goals? What happened to attacking Bernie for having big goals?

[restorefreedom]

27. the "me too!" candidate nt

[Old Crow]

33. I agree completely.

That theme in her closing stuck out like a sore thumb. She's so predictable: Whatever's getting the attention of the latest focus group becomes the new slant in her speeches.

[Bubzer]

38. No kidding. She reminds a little of trump, in how she'll yammer on and see what sticks.

[bvf]

45. No shit?? I haven't been able to watch.

How will the DU HRC hoi polloi spin this one?

This will be interesting.

[Old Crow]

30. I really, really, really hope you're right.

For what it's worth, I thought his closing in tonight's debate was superb. The response from the audience was thunderous!

GO, BERNIE, GO!

[glinda]

31. I am so happy. I am so hopeful.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

32. I think you are correct

[monicaangela]

36. This was a wonderful debate!

One candidate a bit more pushy but all in all this was actually a debate, something you don't see when the republicans take the stand.
As you say, I believe Bernie did an excellent job.

[Duval]

41. Clinton was "uncertain" in her over all demeanor.

I think Bernie was great and I'm so happy that he won Maine!

[Divernan]

87. Because substantively she has no core values or beliefs

There's no "there" there. She has no "center", and therefore, as W. B. Yeats wrote, the centre will not hold.

An extremely intelligent person with no core values or beliefs - other than her own survival, which she equates with accumulating endless amounts of wealth and power.

[Zorra]

42. It's a shift in momentum, and we need to ride it hard and put it away wet. nt

[AzDar]

43. Ayup.

[passiveporcupine]

51. A few highlights from the debate

Clinton is asked whether she supports fracking. “I don’t support it when any locality or any state is against it,”

Does she even know what she is saying? Does she not realize that states that are for it are for it for one reason only...jobs. They are desperate for jobs. If they all had good jobs they would not let anyone near their border with chemicals that poison the ground water, and pressurized wells that cause earthquakes.

Money makes people do a lot of things that are not good for them.

Bernie's reply:

My answer is a lot shorter, says Sanders, explaining that he doesn’t support fracking.

You don't support a bad idea just when it suites your purpose. Once again, Bernie demonstrates his consistently thoughtful decisions.

Sanders keeps up his assault on trade policies. Detroit went from being one of the richest cities in the 1960s to today one of the poorest. Wages are down even adjusted for inflation, he said. Clinton subtly raps him for focusing on the 1990s instead of the future and defends her husband’s economic record and the U.S. Export-Import Bank. Sanders calls it the “Bank of Boeing.” He says “Democrats have not always been right,” including “corporate welfare” and “disastrous trade policies.”

The issue is trade. Clinton touts her “clawback tax” to punish companies that move jobs overseas. Sanders takes a swipe at Clinton for “getting religion” on trade. He says he was out protesting with unions in the early 1990s to oppose free trade. Clinton counterpunches by saying that she supported the auto bailout and Sanders didn’t.

She is clueless. Without the trade policies and union trashing, we wouldn't have lost all the auto jobs in the first place.

Clinton said she’s supporting a program to pay people in Flint to deliver the water while the pipes are being fixed. As president, she said she would also concentrate resources for economic development, health and education.

Oh, how is she "supporting" the program? I can support it verbally too, does that mean I get to run for president? And she's only saying she will actually do something "when she is President"...is that some kind of ransom?

[restorefreedom]

56. great summary! my fave was the fracking. nt

[Colorado Rambler]

80. Yup, the fracking and bringing up the forbidden words "global warming"

Bernie really did a nice one-up on the Hillary creature with his single word response to her blathering. She made a fool of herself with that one. And Bernie is the only candidate running who has the both the integrity and the intelligence to recognize the reality of global warming. Just imagine - the US with a president who wouldn't have excommunicated Galileo for heresy and actually listens to the concerns of almost every single scientist doing legitimate research on climate change today.

I agree that's it's all too seldom that we get the chance to choose a leader such as Sanders. He's like the bright light of a candle held high during one of this country's darkest times. I doubt that I will see his equivalent in what remains of my life-time. I'm going to do everything I can to help him win. He MUST win. He is our greatest hope. Go, Bernie!

[OZi]

70. When Hillary started talking about carrots and sticks...

I wish Bernie would have said: "I just need the stick."

[dana_b]

90. "Democrats have not always been right"

He got a big round of applause for that statement and frankly I was surprised. I LOVE it that he is so honest and just says it. I can't think of any other candidate who woud say that about their own party. Maybe Trump but he'd say it with some sort of gross joke.

[Dem Socialist 2016]

63. They are starting to feel the Bern!

Bernie Sanders is the best Democratic candidate for president in my lifetime.

[Feeling the Bern]

78. Welcome to DU and yes, he is! And when he wins, he will be the best president

we've had since FDR.

[davidpdx]

64. Maybe I have been sucked in by the media and have Stockholm Syndrome

I've been kind of down about his chances since SC. I know he's had some good wins and it's still early in the primary season, but he really needs to win and win big in some of the larger states to start picking up steam on the delegates. The states that are coming up like Michigan and Illinois are going to heavily favor Clinton. He needs an upset in some of those states.

[LiberalElite]

105. he was never going to win SC

Let's move on.

[jtuck004]

65. It's probably just sewage. But maybe. n/t

[Gwhittey]

69. Main does not count

It is in Canada so it is a weird state does not count.

[restorefreedom]

100. i forgot. all those states he won

are "odd" and dont count anyway....

[Mike__M]

108. Yeah. South Carolina is the norm, enit?

[restorefreedom]

111. lol almost as "good" as nevada! nt

[Lorien]

72. Me too

Her fangirls on FB are in full attack mode. Obviously a nerve was struck!

[rhett o rick]

75. We still have the momentum growing. That scares the hell out of the oligarchs. nm

[bernbabe]

77. Kansas, Nebraska and Maine were great

And before that Minnesota and Colorado were important.

But Michigan will tell us if we are really where we need to be. Must be at least very close, a win would be good, a bigger win would be YOOOOJ.

[jillan]

83. If Bernie wins Michigan that would be a game changer.

He has a lot of support in that state. Polls show in her favor but the polls also said she would win Kansas. It's hers to lose.

[floppyboo]

93. recent polls also had her up 10% in Maine...

[highprincipleswork]

81. Oh, I do hope so. I feel it too. Could it be? Phonebank, phonebank, phonebank, phonebank!!!!!!!

[restorefreedom]

94. yes, we need to make a strong showing in michigan

a win would be, of course, amazing!

[Geronimoe]

84. I truly don't get it

Michigan surely must know that Bill Clinton forced NAFTA through Congress with the help of Hillary. Ross Perot said it would create a great sucking sound of jobs and factories leaving America.

It is truly amazing if Michigan voters can't even remember who destroyed the auto industry and their State.

[gordianot]

101. I remember the sucking sound comment.

As long as Republicans support any trade deal you know it is wrong. Not one single Republican needs to ever release any kind of Wall Street transcript you know where they stand. Any Republican that wavers from supporting Oligarch's cannot be a Republican.

[dchill]

96. K&R

[deepestblue]

106. Reply title

The 'transcripts' reply was a facepalm. I dearly hope the voters in Michigan can see through ALL of these utter shenanigans.

[restorefreedom]

110. i think they are onto her......nt

[INdemo]

118. Yes well about the time we think positive things are happening

Debbie Wasserman Schultz or David Brock or John Podesta or Bill come up with some sort of Bullshit Republican move.

Debbie Wassermann Schultz has to go now..After the pay day loan give-a-way,the Caucus shenanigans, questionable vote counting I just don't trust her calling the shots in all these Primary vote counts and delegate assignments....I put here is the same class as Karl Rove,(hell she might be better than Karl now),Would she cheat for a Hillary win..hell yes she would..... Iowa,Nev,Mass so far ...
Iowa.... failed to allow the continuation of the audit after 14 precinct showed gains for Bernie.
Nev..Improper vote tallies,people allowed to caucus without registering,(hell some may have been from 20different states)
Bernie Sanders Votes assigned to Hillary by Hillary precinct captains...
And then
Mass..Hell yes Bill violated election laws,blocked the voting entrance and even the vote count there..

So if we can keep Ms. Karl Rove Jr. from stealing this thing i think we have a chance

[restorefreedom]

119. yup.,gonna be a helluva fight all the way though. nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

121. Her attacks on Benie are trumpian.

[restorefreedom]

122. a new word! nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

130. As long as it's not palinesque...

[restorefreedom]

131. ahhhhhh my ears! lol nt

[pacalo]

124. The debate was a good shot in the arm.

[highprincipleswork]

126. GOTV Michigan for Bernie!!!!

[restorefreedom]

127. yes, hig turnout, he wins! nt

[Duckfan]

128. Do you remember that college/university that "supposedly" has 100% accuracy

...in picking the nomination? It was in Jan I believe. They picked Bernie. I haven't forgotten that prediction.

I have to hope Mich. is much smarter than we realize knowing their economic circumstances and who is on their side and who has screwed them in the 90's.

[restorefreedom]

129. i remember, but i forget where it was

really keeping fingers crossed for michigan today..

[Zorra]

132. ^