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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:14 AM Mar 2016

Perhaps there's another reason why the DNC has it in for Bernie and wants him out, pronto.

Bernie has given a voice to progressive ideas that up until now has been marginalized and in so doing has rallied millions of people around these ideas like never before. Progressives can now look around and see that they are not isolated but part of a groundswell. Perhaps's what is most concerning to the DNC is that everyday as more networks are forged, as more people are exposed to democratic socialist ideas, groundwork is being laid that could be the basis for a new party to emerge.

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Perhaps there's another reason why the DNC has it in for Bernie and wants him out, pronto. (Original Post) snagglepuss Mar 2016 OP
I think you could be right! Beowulf Mar 2016 #1
The Occupy Party is their biggest fear. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #2
Although I understand problems with rigid hierarcial structures, I think Occupy snagglepuss Mar 2016 #4
Well it's funny they did have leaders Kalidurga Mar 2016 #5
top level organizers needed, but not "leaders" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #21
Bingo! corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #11
Our Mayor was cool. The Sheriff not so much. The city police not as bad, but not good either. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #13
The progressive movement should shore up its gains at all costs. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #3
"starting progressive groups in every electoral district and advocating for progressive candidates" snagglepuss Mar 2016 #6
Thanks snagglepuss... DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #16
thank you! hopemountain Mar 2016 #17
The membership of the 2 major parties Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #7
For those that are hinting, we do not want to start another party, the Democratic Party rhett o rick Mar 2016 #8
++++++++++++11111111111111111 DJ13 Mar 2016 #15
I'd like to believe that marions ghost Mar 2016 #18
The OP is my mulling of what other concerns the DNC might harbor about snagglepuss Mar 2016 #22
That new party to emerge could be... DAMANgoldberg Mar 2016 #9
Green party has too much baggage, too many negatives marions ghost Mar 2016 #19
Agree. nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #20
I plan on working within the party when I can and helping to organize locally. wilsonbooks Mar 2016 #10
One of the best reasons to stay in. Best candidate against Trump #2. Possible legal action #3. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #12
It's sad when Democratic leadership fears the people. senz Mar 2016 #14
'basis for a new party'....Hmmm, interesting.... TheProgressive Mar 2016 #23
Sanders is proving you can organize and fund a campaign without the DNC. phantom power Mar 2016 #24

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. The Occupy Party is their biggest fear.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

They have a network of sorts already. They can talk to activists in other parties. I have no idea how the no leadership party would choose a leader, but they would have to if they were going to be a political party.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
4. Although I understand problems with rigid hierarcial structures, I think Occupy
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:25 AM
Mar 2016

suffered by not having leadership. Perhaps having no leaders is fine in small groups but once a movement grows to a certain size I think structure and leadership is essential.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. Well it's funny they did have leaders
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:31 AM
Mar 2016

They had lots of leaders they just didn't call them that. I watched in amazement as people stepped up to lead groups in teach ins and in meetings and in protest marches and in coordinating meals for people that came to protest in getting warm clothes for some who didn't have them in calling the police when a homeless man nearly died of exposure in calling union leaders to come and talk with us and to give speeches in gathering songs and writing songs for an Occupy concert/sing along someone gathered books for an Occupy library... but having a central leader wasn't something they were keen on doing. If they ever start up again as far as protesting they might consider having a go-to person to coordinate things and having an informal vote on leadership.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
21. top level organizers needed, but not "leaders"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 08:35 AM
Mar 2016

Something similar to an open source software project. It can be done.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
11. Bingo!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:34 AM
Mar 2016

Let's not forget that the Occupy movement was suppressed in may locations, including cities with mayors who are Democrats, such as Oakland.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
13. Our Mayor was cool. The Sheriff not so much. The city police not as bad, but not good either.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:35 AM
Mar 2016

I think the Mayor kept the violence down. We never got sprayed or roughed up too much.

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
3. The progressive movement should shore up its gains at all costs.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

That means starting progressive groups in every electoral district and advocating for progressive candidates.

It really has to start from the bottom up, as Bernie said.

You can see how the powers of division works to try to suppress individual leaders.

The future is at stake!

Be the change you want to see in the world! - Gandhi

Be The Bern!

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
6. "starting progressive groups in every electoral district and advocating for progressive candidates"
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:35 AM
Mar 2016

Yes this is key. What the Sanderstorm has revealed is that there is massive hunger for significant change, hopefully the take-away will be "if you build it, they will come".


BTW I love "Be The Bern" Brilliant!

Welcome to DU!

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
16. Thanks snagglepuss...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:13 AM
Mar 2016

"Be The Bern" is hereby public domain.

We have to keep the progressive movement alive, especially when others start to have a bit of remorse.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
17. thank you!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:33 AM
Mar 2016

i have the ghandi quote on a magnet on my fridge. not too long ago, a friend called saying how much that quote had affected his life - and thanked me for spreading the inspiration. welcome, democracydirect

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
7. The membership of the 2 major parties
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:42 AM
Mar 2016

has been declining for the past 5-6 years. The current percentages are 42 indy, 29 dem and 26 repug. The 3 % is unknown. I intend to change mine to indy after I vote in our June 7 primary. I have emailed the DNC a LOT mostly to tell them how badly they suck for their treatment of their members by anointing hilly and screwing Bernie. They even sent the survey which was no doubt dumped on some poor clerk to read after I was done with it.. I am done with them and they ARE afraid because I know other folks who are fighting back against them too and I am sure it is universal. They are going down.




 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
8. For those that are hinting, we do not want to start another party, the Democratic Party
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

is our party, the People's Party and we need to kick the Conservatives pretending to be Democrats out. Tell the Clintons and DWS to start their own party. Call it the DLC Party or the Third Way Party, or maybe the Goldman-Sachs Party.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
18. I'd like to believe that
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:09 AM
Mar 2016

but I'm not sure we can win against the Third Way on their turf. They are so powerful. And they do not want us as we are, they only want us as voters for Them--they are seriously conservative. It's not a natural hook-up.

The Democratic party USED to be the people's party. That was quite a long time ago.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
22. The OP is my mulling of what other concerns the DNC might harbor about
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie. Perhaps it would have been better for me to use "organized force" than party however the term seems beside the point which is that there is now the possibility that after the election there exists the possibility that having now been organized, progressives could be a formidable power pushing change within the party or without. The cat has been let out of the bag.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
9. That new party to emerge could be...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 01:15 AM
Mar 2016

the Green Party. Their views are a lot closer to Sanders than the typical Democratic position. If that happens, that means this site will be Green Underground. #ImwithJill

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