It's my sad duty to inform the Bernie Group that Senator Sanders--wait for it--

[merrily]

with a rally on his schedule, actually ended an interview with a reporter.

http://www.12news.com/news/local/valley/ahead-of-phoenix-rally-sanders-abruptly-ends-12-news-interview/87425186

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141382809 (sadly, this but one of MANY links to the story on DU EVEN AS I TYPE!)

Sorry, former fellow supporters of Senator Sanders. Most of you know me: I have stayed faithful through the many sins some on DU have managed to identify in this man who has been nothing but a man of decency his entire adult life (probably his childhood, too, but, of course, I'm certainly not going to take his own brother's word for it).

For example, I put up with his leading from the front, like some kind of egomaniac, instead of from a very respectful distance to the rear, decades after it really mattered. I even put up with his resistance to the Iraq War, while pragmatic liberals like Marshall, founder of the Progressive Policy Institute, signed the PNAC letter, urging Bush to invade Iraq, as any President of Sense should have.

However, we all have to draw a line somewhere and, very regretfully, ENDING an interview is the end of that line for me.

From this day forward, I, too, am, at long last, thanks to all that is good in the world, a Person of Sense™, like so many faithful DUers.

FORWARD, my sensible friends, FORWARD. Who else is with me?




™Third Way Manny http://jackpineradicals.org/content.php?168-Can-we-ADULTS-discuss-the-Massachusetts-primary

[TBF]

1. #StillSanders

[merrily]

10. +1

[LiberalArkie]

2. Thank God, I was afraid you were going to say he was Jewish or something.

[merrily]

4. If that were the scandalous lowdon on this man, I might have overlooked it, just as I overlooked

Obama's Islam. http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?3289-Democratic-Primary-2016-Will-religious-bigotry-work-this-time&highlight=religious+bigotry

[stage left]

40. He's Jewish?

Oh, no! #StillSanders

[Scootaloo]

57. Blinkin, izzat you?

[stage left]

60. Ha!

[merrily]

58. Can't say. All I know is what I read in screen caps from hillarysupporters.com, so I

assume he is. I have no first-hand knowledge.

[jillan]

74. Is there a really a site called hillarysupporters.com ?

Not going near that place!

[Jackie Wilson Said]

3. Mocking him for this is silly and a waste of time.

As is the vast majority of time spent on DU attacking Hillary.

[merrily]

6. Might you hold your eager defenses of Hillary for a post in which someone has actually attacked her?

For the third time, this is the Bernie Sanders Group, where supporters of Sanders are supposed to be safe from attacks.

[TM99]

16. Did you read the OP?

This was not mocking.

This is the Sanders group. You want to defend Clinton, please go to their group.

This is your final warning. If you do it again, you will be banned from this group.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

21. I was referring to people in GDP who ARE mocking Bernie for this, not the OP

And was pointing out how damaging it is to do that.

[merrily]

30. The people in GDP who ARE mocking Bernie for this are not attacking Hillary, either.

and that is what you posted about.

Please don't play brand new. Jackie Wilson had a true voice.

[Kip Humphrey]

84. This ^^^ may be the most perfect retort in DU history.

[merrily]

89. Thank you, but the hosts "retorted" a lot better than I did--and more permanently!

[Autumn]

23. When you spend the vast majority of time defending another candidate perhaps you

are in the wrong group.

[Hiraeth]

62. Perhaps? If we take it to a vote, I vote to block him. Tired of the nonsense. Thanks

[Gregorian]

7. I should have heeded the signs: the hair; the Brooklyn accent; hippy wife

What a disrespectful man.

/hasn't seen the video yet.

[merrily]

11. I KNOW! All the signs of being a decent, brave, activist liberal were right in front of us.

[stage left]

46. And we ignored them.

Kept on knocking doors, making calls, and contributing to this blatant Socialist upstart. What the hell were we thinking? That we could have a better country or something?

[merrily]

49. Please don't remind me. The cuts are very deep and still much too fresh.

[stage left]

54. I know.

And then the unkindest cut of all--telling one of the members of our Noble and long suffering media that their time was up. How could he?

[merrily]

56. No words. NONE!

[appalachiablue]

8. Did he have to? The sacred line, the one that must never be crossed.

What made him do it? Violate the sacred rule to never depart from a local TV interview. My God, the heresy and betrayal, just crushing! No more I tell you, it's devastating! And the shame...Must take to my bed, lie down again. Now only woe and misery reside throughout the land...

[merrily]

51. A long and barely tolerable career that he almost totally got away with, now irremediably in ashes.

[appalachiablue]

61. How could we be so blind? The signs were there all along- the liberal, caring

man of the people was only a front for a heartless, godless, commie, hippie, white revolutionary Bolshevik from the north, a red Russia lover with no respect for institution or country. Rahm and Reagan were so right, root them out!
It's all over now, the end of any career and back to work on The Waterfront, of Burlington, VT (not Hoboken) amid the rampant crime, corruption and degradation of other doomed radical soshialist brethren there. Stella! (woops, wrong scene).

[merrily]

63. I once had a crush on a guy who worked on the Hoboken docks to put

himself through school. I think it was because I felt so bad that he was so tired all day. He didn't seem to know I was alive.

Frank Sinatra was born in Hoboken.

[appalachiablue]

66. Saw Sinatra once at a huge arena, bad seats but a nice event. In college I got

into his early stuff, esp. the solo vocals for a while.
A college student who worked construction and rode a motorcycle liked me in HS but I wasn't into him so much, thought he wasn't cool or hip enough, being young and somewhat stupid. 'Hard-headed woman' was his nickname for me after the song. He was a c/o so after time he was transferred to work outside Philly where a buddy of his and I visited him. After that we soon found other friends, La Vie.

What an interesting and heavy day on DU, never dull!

[merrily]

75. Nothing like a high school crush, is there? Sooo life and death, LOL! nt

[merrily]

86. Sounds exciting, but who said I hate Justin Trudeau?

I fell in puppy love/lust (unconsummated, thank goodness) as soon as I hit high school.

[appalachiablue]

87. When I posted Trudeau's statement about teaching his sons to be feminists a while

back, you said smthg. about another plutocrat, whatev. ~ How did you get over the puppy love? Fortunately at that young age I didn't get very busted up or emotional, naturally. Maybe someone was looking out for me. Unlike my sister, very beautiful, intelligent and dramatic type who was badly hurt a few times. But I got hit later during the busy 30s and it was major disruption. Life's a trip! (Taking that TMI post down now).

[merrily]

88. No recollection, but I do use "plutocrat" rather than "oligarch," so I cop to it, whatever it was!

I don't hate Trudeau, though. I don't really hate anyone, but especially people I've never met. I respect some and not others, and I have differences with almost every politician, even those I admire. Even Bernie (shhhh.)

I didn't have to get over my high school romance. In my mind, it was never destined to go anywhere permanent because he was not going to college and, at that time, I just assumed that my future husband would have at least a college degree. Dumb, but again, I was under 13 when we started dating.

I think he just assumed we'd marry when I finished high school, even if I went to college. After about 3 years, he found out in a rough way that I did not intend to marry him when I got out of high school or even college. I never saw or heard from him again. Until then, he was good to me and I just hope he is having a great life.

[appalachiablue]

91. That's too bad things went that way with your young friend but it's great that you

hope he's having a good life. College education in a partner was expected by me as well. Those years are very serious in some ways and issues arise when we're not experienced enough to fully sense what's going on. The life decisions and directions we take or that happen then are often critical, especially in hindsight. After the chill that was never resolved with my friend, I left that university town and came home to regroup. A month or so later mom said there was a visitor to see me at the house. When I came into the den there he was, dressed in black as always and very cool. Brief hellos, said he'd wanted to marry me and then left. At the time I didn't know what to make of that, but the lack of communication clearly indicated it was not a positive relationship. Life's bizarre..

[merrily]

92. We do tend to have to and/or feel we have to make huge decisions while we are young.

Whether to finish high school, whether to go to college, which major/career path whom to marry, whether to have kids. It's mind blowing, if you think about it.

I don't even want to think about what I would have done differently "if I knew then what I know now." I am very grateful for what I have. No good can come from looking under under rocks, especially the one on my finger.



I would have followed a different career path. Then again, I wouldn't be who I am. So, maybe not.

[appalachiablue]

93. Got that right. So many critical decisions converging all at once, which then determine

our fate for ages. It ain't right! and it's too much. These life decisions should be spaced out over time, but then that would go against our evolutionary purpose and society, bah! After years of busyness it's fun to recall my interesting earlier life which I cut ties with and neglected far too long. Bad, bad. And in terms of the big picture I'm satisfied and positive about what I've done in this life. My wonderful parents and grandparents gave me so much and I'm fortunate in that regard, and know it. -Youth is wasted on the young, as Oscar Wilde or GB Shaw and my dad said. For sure, but the way it is.

[merrily]

94. Someone theorized we should pay retirement to young people, while

they still had the health and energy to travel, learn, and generally enjoy it and let the older, wiser people do the brain work.

I once read a story saying that we should have our largest meal for breakfast, complete with pics of (of course :rolleyes , women sticking a roast in the oven at 4 a.m. That didn't catch on, either.

[appalachiablue]

95. Absolutely! I realized we have it ass backwards some years ago. When young,

people should learn, study, work some and also travel to experience different cultures and people. Enjoy youth while full of energy and curiosity and also healthy and happy. I kinda did that by accident; it was amazing and an important time in American history. It was Hell to catch up later but worth it.
We should encourage 5-6 year college plans, combined with life and work experience- as in work with the environment and organizations for the common good like Teach for America and the long ago VISTA and Peace Corps.
The last 20+ years of college pressure to excel esp. in finance and business, with diminishing jobs and careers and obscene debt is part of the sick, exploitive free market death trap, the neoliberal hustle and racket that's killing the world, especially for the young. Better to start a real job and work at about age 45, after education, life and family. There's plenty of time, why not!

I approve of late afternoon meals after hiking and spending time in nature from ending work at 3 or 4, like workers in Scandinavia.
My sister and little brother traveled to Denmark and Sweden where he had good friends, twin brothers and loved it. Although I never made it there I've seen a good bit of Europe and lived in England to study for a semester. Makes me so proud that many folks in Europe, Canada, Australia and all over are supporting Bernie. The US has it wrong, esp. since Reagan. SOS, Sanders people deliver us before it's too late...

[merrily]

96. Sounds great.

Well, the US is not on the list of top ten countries where people are happiest, but the establishment and its supporters don't think we should try to be more like those countries, so.....

[Rebkeh]

9. Wha??? Not nearly enough for me

If that's all it takes to quit, nothing would get done.

How is a President supposed to lead from behind anyway? Come on. This is new territory, we are figuring this out. There's no precedent except Obama and Bernie is not black. He's the only one I trust to follow through, everyone else panders.

To be fair, the video kept hiccuping and I couldn't watch the whole thing but canceling interviews is not a crime. He's a busy man and people will take advantage, especially the press. At the very least, I'd want the whole story first. All the facts. Both sides.

Mind elaborating?

[merrily]

13. Elaborating on ending an interview? Leaf through any magazines near the end of the supermarket line

just before you get to the cashier. I'm sure all of them are covering this scandal. I've been with Bernie since he announced he was exploring a run. It's much too painful for me.

[Rebkeh]

20. Okay. ???

I wish you well.

(No snark. I am genuinely confused)

[merrily]

26. So sorry. It's satire or parody or whatever you want to call it. I thought you knew

and were playing along with me. See Reply 18 on this thread.

[Rebkeh]

28. Ahhh lol

My sarcasm detector is on lunch break??

[merrily]

31. Poe's law. No worries.

[kath]

12. ZOMGWTFBBQ?!?1! I can no longer support such a creature!!1!!1

Can someone please tell me what color(s) my Hillary pompoms are supposed to be??

[merrily]

15. Red, white and blue. DUH.

[Land of Enchantment]

17. Your pompoms will need to be the kind that change colors

like the mylar thingies they sell at state fairs.

[Land of Enchantment]

14. Totally with you--oh-wait--is it too late to draft Dick Gephardt? nt

[merrily]

19. Odd. Last night, a friend who used the credentials of Gephardt's chief of staff (with permission)

during the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston was reminiscing about that experience. Aside from last night, I can't recall a mention of Gephardt to me in at least two years.

[deepestblue]

18. the interview

Bernie ended it partly because they had been given over the 4 minutes of allotted time.

The reporter had an antagonistic attitude.

The reporter worked for an NBC local affiliate.

Here is a man who truly cares about all 320 million people in this country and much of the media/political/corporate establishment treats him with disdain. That should tell us all a lot.

[merrily]

22. I totally understand the impetus to make excuses after supporting him for so long.

I very nearly succumbed to it myself earlier today when I mocked one of the OPs who brought us this important story. However, I have finally joined the other People of Sense who are trashing Bernie for this and, oh, so many other sins.

I would love to recommend you to a de-programming specialist, but I think it's something you have to come to on your own, as I have.

[highprincipleswork]

24. Truly. The most authentic Progressive running! I've heard he likes Socialism! & now interview-ending

Bernie is the steadfast Progressive and hardcore negotiator I would like representing me.

Hearing him tear it up in Arizona right now.

[merrily]

29. HA! A fan of Sssssocialisssssm fan. That explains nothing!

[Scuba]

25. How despicable. Time to support a real Democrat, like Joe Lieberman.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

[merrily]

27. The losing ticket! Er, I mean, damn Nader to hell!

[Scuba]

32. Yeah, Ralphie made a handy scapegoat, didn't he?

Ralphie takes the blame, yet way, way more Florida Democrats voted for Bush than Nader.

[merrily]

35. Those leftist Florida Democrats who crossed over to vote for Bush were the WORST!

Every time a DLC candidate loses an election, the left is to blame. You can take that to the bank!

[Scuba]

37. Hippie punching is the sport du jour at the DNC.

[merrily]

65. BTW, welcome back. Apparently, you got all of 9 days knocked off your

involuntary vacation.

Seems as though it's open season for nasty posts now, too.

[Land of Enchantment]

36. Yes!Lieberman/Gephardt!

Yawn.

[HereSince1628]

38. I struggle to understand at what point he became no better than a republican.

Dems are always better than republicans, so was there a point while he was a democrat when he was no better than a republican.

Is this like Jimmy Carter's en cardio adultery?

[Scuba]

42. Please consider what this blogger wrote following Lieberman's 2006 primary defeat ...

http://joesschool.blogs.com/olsononline/2006/08/lieberman_deser.html

At heart, Lieberman is a corporate shill. He has supported deregulation, free trade, globalization --NAFTA, et al--, the pharmaceutical industry, banking, insurance, big energy. He has spoken positively about schools vouchers and social security privatization. On the other hand, in his 18 year Senate career, he has never advocated for national health insurance, perhaps the best indicator of progressive leanings.

According to Ralph Nader, Lieberman is one of only two Democrats to earn the endorsement of the conservative Chamber of Congress, the other being Ben Nelson. By the Chamber's reckoning, "his cumulative voting score with the Chamber is the highest of any Democratic Senator in the Northeast."

From a policy perspective, Lieberman was no better than any 2006 Republican.

[merrily]

44. When McCain's campaign team considers you as a running mate.....

[HereSince1628]

50. It's just that I don't subscribe to the absurdity that dems are -always- better than republicans.

and Joe is one of my examples of that absurdity.

If Joe's inherent personal goodness didn't change when he change his affiliation, then there -was- a republican that was as good as a democrat.

On the other hand if Joe was a dirty low-down republican lurker he was never as good as a democrat should be, and it's clear that we were duped as long as 'the party' put him up as a democrat we had to back as being better than all republicans...

It's all quite quite confusing...

[Scuba]

52. Thanks for clarifying. Joe's a good example, kinda like Jason Rae.

[stellanoir]

33. The interviewer started the inane line of questioning

whether he would be interested in the V.P. slot.

When one is going to a rally, why waste one's time on spurious speculation regarding one's own defeat ?

I don't think I'd respond either.

Sheesh.

[merrily]

39. Reply 18 on this thread says the reporter was allotted four minutes and went over time.

Still, Sanders was obviously a scoundrel to end the interview, no getting around it.

[stellanoir]

47. Yeah he had a whole crowd of people waiting for him

they had gone way over time & that idiotic line of questioning didn't warrant the dignity of a response.

This is not the scoundrel you seek.

[merrily]

64. How dastardly! nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

34. K, R & B! Awesome OP, merrily!

[merrily]

41. Awww.

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Thank you most kindly.

[StandingInLeftField]

43. I was going to call you "Thid Way Merrily"...

Until I saw your link at the bttom. TWM poking the bear again I see.

ON EDIT: This WAS your post! My bad - so I CAN call you "Third Way Merrily!" Cool!

[merrily]

45. I am responsible for the idea of the OP and everything in it, except for the term

Person of Sense. Manny Goldstein of JPR, formerly MannyGoldstein of DU, came up with that term (not exactly but a similar term) All else is moi.

No doubt, if TWM had been responsible for it, it would have been much better.

[warrprayer]

53. Outstanding

We must forgive him!

[merrily]

55. Easy for you to say! Obviously, you're not as pure as the DUers who are deeply disturbed

by this dreadful incident.

[warrprayer]

71. He's not sorry

[stage left]

59. But only if he says

he's sorry if he did something that offended us.

[mak3cats]

67. merrily, you are the best!....

And I'm really sorry that it's been a long week and I've had too many cocktails at this point to say anything clever like the previous posters in this thread. Just wanted to say thank you for being our (my, anyway) voice so much of the time.

GO BERNIE!!

[merrily]

76. Wow! Those are some huge compliments. Undeserved, I'm very sure, but appreciated nonetheless.

Thank you so much!

[Tragl1]

68. Nice link.

Thanks for posting this.

[merrily]

77. My pleasure.

Sometimes, the original stuff by the Hillary supporters is funnier than any take off on it could be. Yesterday was one of those days.

[Major Hogwash]

69. In all the time I've been here, 14 years, I never imagined I would say this.

I've never walked out of an interview.
Not even once!

I wonder if Bernie told the interviewer, BRB.

[merrily]

78. Obviously, your mama brought you up better than Bernie's mama did him. So sad, really.

[Major Hogwash]

83. Wanna hear something funny?

The news came out yesterday that Bernie would be making a campaign stop in Boise on Monday.

So, a rather rightwing radio station here that uses talk radio to account for about half of their daily programming format, had one of their program's hosts ask people who were listening to their station to call in and talk about Bernie coming here.

About 7 minutes in to the program, some guy called in and said something that sounded like this --

GiffjigwhabegoshscratkinostoohscrooditwhashitgotinlikwurnickscrattschmishgottickHillary!

The radio DJ paused for a couple of seconds, and then asked, "What the hell was that?"

And the guy said, "That's what it would sound like if the Tasmanian Devil endorsed Hillary".

It was the funniest thing I have ever heard on that station.
I almost fell out of my chair at work, I was laughing so hard.

[merrily]

90. omg, how do you listen to that stuff? I can't even stand to listen to

local sports radio. I won't call names, but they sound illiterate and, even though they talk sports, my gut just tells me they'd be right wing if they talked politics. I have to grin and bear if someone who shall also remain nameless puts on that station while I'm in the car and can't escape it.

[Doctor_J]

70. When is the last time a hillarian made a post about an issue?

The hatred of liberals on this site is every bit as visceral as on freeperville or redstate.

[jillan]

73. She's a woman and it's time for a woman President! She was SoS! That's all I ever hear when I ask

people why they support her.

[merrily]

79. You don't see the gravity of Sanders ending an interview because time was exceeded?

Speaks volumes.

Even people from other nations weighed in to observe that this proves he is not Presidential timber.

I don't know how he managed to hide that from the people of Vermont, who can observe him up close and personal, but he has. I'm beginning to suspect he's a warlock, albeit an anti-war warlock (no offense to witches or warlocks intended, but only special powers explain it).

[jillan]

72. The Clintonites in Phoenix are attacking Jane because she went to tent city. PATHETIC!

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Thank you JANE SANDERS for showing the country what as disgusting Piece of shit that Sheriff Joe really is.

[merrily]

80. I think I even saw some of that on DU, but I could be wrong.

[yourpaljoey]

81. Maybe he should have punched that reporter in the head

I dunno... did they insult his wife?

[merrily]

82. Please see Reply 18 on this thread. Thanks.