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in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:09 PM Mar 2016

EXIT POLLS IN AZ SHOWED BERNIE WON! 60% Bernie to 30-something Clinton!! The election was stolen.

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Watch the Sane Progressive and you will be even more pissed.
Exit poll numbers are flipped in the results!



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EXIT POLLS IN AZ SHOWED BERNIE WON! 60% Bernie to 30-something Clinton!! The election was stolen. (Original Post) in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 OP
one hillary supporter told me PatrynXX Mar 2016 #1
How? Hillary supporters are often liars Lorien Mar 2016 #9
indeed :( n/t PatrynXX Mar 2016 #20
The normal exit poll organization that has done previous exit polls did not perform any polls in AZ. LonePirate Mar 2016 #21
not particular fond of early voting PatrynXX Mar 2016 #27
Right now it's early voting or very long lines on Election Day due to Republican tactics. LonePirate Mar 2016 #28
And I believe the Indian and Latino votes were flipped! bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #2
What exit polls? bernbabe Mar 2016 #3
I think Debbie's video said they were reported in The Courier? in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #4
Why independent exit polling should ALWAYS be done! Lorien Mar 2016 #5
with a margin THAT wide i think its obvious retrowire Mar 2016 #6
From what I've heard from AZ voters and phone bankers Lorien Mar 2016 #12
oh that's fucked up. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #18
that is an UNofficial facebook page. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #30
Utah and Idaho, two very conservative states, being that different than Az doesn't make sense. jalan48 Mar 2016 #7
Exactly. And the turnouts for Bernie's rallies in AZ Lorien Mar 2016 #15
It has been clear for quite some time that we have a very serious problem with election integrity. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #8
does anyone have info on the hack she speaks of the week before? questionseverything Mar 2016 #10
All I can say is.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #11
Wow. Is Sanders contesting any of this? farleftlib Mar 2016 #13
Not surprised in the least bit. New Earth Mar 2016 #14
it was one county prescott 39000 people read the article MattP Mar 2016 #16
Enough with this ACCEPTING ELECTION FRAUD AND VOTER SUPPRESSION! in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #22
No he can't farleftlib Mar 2016 #24
Wow!! nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #17
Not just former Independents were screwed: Lorien Mar 2016 #19
Exit polls are worthless in a state that casted 60% of the ballots by mail dbackjon Mar 2016 #23
She is right on the money BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #25
yes it was dana_b Mar 2016 #26
Bernie MUST address AZ election FRAUD and VOTER SUPPRESSION! Without fair elections, why continue? in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #29
This is a FAILED Strategy on Behalf of Sanders Supporters -- Time for Truth Telling.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2016 #31
This massive fraud has ALEC's filthy fingerprints all over it. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #32

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
1. one hillary supporter told me
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

there were no Exit polls done in AZ period..


how? there are always Exit Polls

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
9. How? Hillary supporters are often liars
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

and I suspect that many here on DU are pay-per-post operatives; the kind that the Koch brothers and GOP has been using since 2000.

Newspapers conduct their own exit polls at busy precincts, but independent exit polling should be done at EVERY precinct from now on. Voting should be as secure as air travel, with just as many checkpoints along the way to make sure that EVERY vote is counted accurately!

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
21. The normal exit poll organization that has done previous exit polls did not perform any polls in AZ.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

That is why we did not see the usual tidbits about what quality is most important you or what income levels voted for which candidate. That polling was not conducted. The exit polling by DCourier (an organization I have never heard of so I cannot comment on their legitimacy) performed some exit polling. They are not the usual exit pollsters, though.

Also, AZ had almost a month of early voting which exit polls do not capture at all. Clinton won those votes by almost 25 points and they numbered somewhere in the six figure range. The first results that arrived yesterday with almost 200K votes counted with only a small percentage of precincts reporting are due to the early votes.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
27. not particular fond of early voting
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

in primaries but then again I don't like primaries. True if you work you can't attend and that sucks. but what politician other than Bernie would make such a day a national holiday . we need Election day to be a national holiday first then we'll see about the others.

LonePirate

(13,386 posts)
28. Right now it's early voting or very long lines on Election Day due to Republican tactics.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

The choice is an easy one for me.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
4. I think Debbie's video said they were reported in The Courier?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

It's in the video. She was reading the exit polls on the video.

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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
5. Why independent exit polling should ALWAYS be done!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

and it was, right up until election 2000 when exit polls showed that Gore decisively beat Bush in Florida, and the AP called them "unreliable".


BTW-we should all hit the AP's Facebook page. They called it for Hillary with only 2% of precincts reporting, while people were still standing in line to vote and while they KNEW that massive election fraud was taking place with over one million newly registered Democrats being turned away from the polls!: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Associated-Press-450-West-33rd-Street-NY-NY/123605331021842 You can call or write them as well: (212) 621-1500 Associated Press: 450 West 33rd St. New York, NY 10001

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
12. From what I've heard from AZ voters and phone bankers
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

the split should have been similar to what we saw in Utah and Idaho.

If you haven't already, hit the AP's Facebook page. They called it for Hillary with only 2% of precincts reporting, while people were still standing in line to vote and while they KNEW that massive election fraud was taking place with over one million newly registered Democrats being turned away from the polls. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Associated-Press-450-West-33rd-Street-NY-NY/123605331021842

You can call or write them as well: (212) 621-1500
Associated Press: 450 West 33rd St. New York, NY 10001

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
15. Exactly. And the turnouts for Bernie's rallies in AZ
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:37 PM
Mar 2016

were just as huge as those in Utah and Idaho. I have quite a few friends in Arizona. Every one of them is a passionate Bernie supporter, as are their friends. One group of them were all talking about moving to Ireland last night after the shenanigans they experienced at the polls. It's THAT BAD!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
8. It has been clear for quite some time that we have a very serious problem with election integrity.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe we will come together, organize, and demand action be taken in the near future.

I don't know if anything is more important to getting progressive results in this country.

questionseverything

(9,631 posts)
10. does anyone have info on the hack she speaks of the week before?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

az has a history of stolen elections

http://www.sweetremedy.tv/fatallyflawed/media/RTA_Fraud_Flyer_3_7_12.pdf

until WE THE PEOPLE get to oversee our own elections from beginning to end, they are all shams

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
13. Wow. Is Sanders contesting any of this?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

Something very wrong went on here. The polls before and after show a Sanders win. This woman has a valid point. Sanders has a duty to his supporters to get to the bottom of this.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
16. it was one county prescott 39000 people read the article
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie can still win but not if you keep acting like children

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
22. Enough with this ACCEPTING ELECTION FRAUD AND VOTER SUPPRESSION!
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

We are supposed to live in a DEMOCRACY! One person, one vote! TPTB do NOT get to choose our candidates for us and THAT is what has been going on since 2000!

Don't you dare call me a child for wanting FAIR ELECTIONS! I've been voting probably longer than you've been alive.

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farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
24. No he can't
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:00 PM
Mar 2016

if this level of fraud continues without being investigated and contested.

Nobody listens to a scold, especially one who is on the wrong side of the issue.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
23. Exit polls are worthless in a state that casted 60% of the ballots by mail
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

No doubt Sanders had more voters that voted yesterday, but trailed badly in early voting, which is done by many older voters

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
25. She is right on the money
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

Pretending this a Republican vs. Democrat thing doesn't cut it. The DNC wouldn't sit back and accept this if it was detrimental to Hillary instead of Bernie.

And she is also right that the Sanders campaign needs to lay down across the tracks over the anti-Democratic fiasco that took place in Arizona yesterday if they want us to think they are serious about trying to win this primary contest. I am not going to keep making financial contributions so Bernie can play this rigged process out. I'll wait until after the November election to see what is worth supporting, if anything, after that.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
26. yes it was
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

but for some reason, the Sanders campaign won't fight it. Maybe they don't want to look like sore losers or whiners, but Debbie is right. They actually have an obligation to look into this. If they are stealing this one, what will they do when it's NY's or California's turn(s)?

This will make Hillary the nominee - guaranteed. And we are just supposed to sit here and take it?

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
29. Bernie MUST address AZ election FRAUD and VOTER SUPPRESSION! Without fair elections, why continue?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

Why waste all our money?

Without fair elections, we're a Banana Republic!

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
31. This is a FAILED Strategy on Behalf of Sanders Supporters -- Time for Truth Telling....
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

There were definitely issues in Arizona yesterday HOWEVER...

These claims of "Election Fraud" everywhere by the Sanders Supporters is getting a bit more than old -- and this is coming from a Sanders Supporter. If the Sanders Campaign cannot launch a Early Voting Strategy to counteract what might be occurring at the polls -- claims of "Election Fraud" will NOT make up the difference. They never have and never will in a Presidential Election.

The Strategy needs to change quickly on behalf of both the Sanders campaign and Supporters -- and that is called Adopt a Early Voting Strategy ASAP or run as a Independent Candidate Now -- as this methodology of crying foul after the fact consistently will not win a damn thing.

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