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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:11 PM Mar 2016

I can't stand and won't stand 3 hours to vote

In Arizona or any other fuckyouistan, I would go home without voting. Nevermind that 3 hours waiting in line takes really 5 hours out of your day no matter how you cut it.


I doubt Hillary could stand that long either but I think Bernie could.

I physically can't do it, though I try to keep fit. But a man's got to know his limitations and I know my limits
at my age


This is voter suppression, and the powers that be can't spin this and you know it and they know it

Nobody can defend this.

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I can't stand and won't stand 3 hours to vote (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 OP
These Republican Secs of State need to be hauled into court and put under oath to explain their blm Mar 2016 #1
I simply cannot get over... SoapBox Mar 2016 #2
i can't get over that the HRC folks here don't see a problem with this. nashville_brook Mar 2016 #7
They will cry in Nov. Yuugal Mar 2016 #8
looking at the turnout numbers, the suppression would have benefited both establishment nashville_brook Mar 2016 #21
State vs. Federal baran Mar 2016 #25
States' rights. States are supposed to be sovereign entities in many ways. tblue37 Mar 2016 #26
mom can barely stand for an hour PatrynXX Mar 2016 #3
I can't either dana_b Mar 2016 #4
Ironically I do vote by mail in November PatrynXX Mar 2016 #6
I've done vote by mail for many years... SoapBox Mar 2016 #9
that would be great dana_b Mar 2016 #11
less can go wrong with your vote actually Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #16
drop offs shanti Mar 2016 #23
Everyone needs to use early voting whenever possible to avoid these lines. LonePirate Mar 2016 #5
Ditto that. SoapBox Mar 2016 #10
AZ had almost a month of early voting. Well over 100K AZ Dems voted early this year. LonePirate Mar 2016 #13
my bro and mom are in arizona shanti Mar 2016 #24
The voting system is corrupt Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #12
Repubs were in charge of the Phoenix area voting where all of yesterday's problems occurred. LonePirate Mar 2016 #14
I really don't give a damn who Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #15
Exactly. Election FRAUD and voter SUPPRESSION is election FRAUD and voter SUPPRESSION no matter in_cog_ni_to Mar 2016 #18
early voting helps establishment candidates Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #17
Exit polls show that Bernie won by a wide margin Lorien Mar 2016 #19
I had to stand for nearly two hours in Central Austin Jane Austin Mar 2016 #20
No one should have to LiberalElite Mar 2016 #22
Great minds.... CentralMass Mar 2016 #28
You need to get one of these. CentralMass Mar 2016 #27
Personally I am able to stand for hours, SheilaT Mar 2016 #29
People had to wait three hours? abelenkpe Mar 2016 #30

blm

(112,996 posts)
1. These Republican Secs of State need to be hauled into court and put under oath to explain their
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

actions and the decisions that led to their actions EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
2. I simply cannot get over...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

How our RIGHT to vote, now has endless obstructions thrown in front of it.

WTF?

How corrupt things have become that this is allowed.

The RIGHT to vote should be protected and honored, all across America, with consistent procedures...not this hodge-podge of state by state crap.

We need that Political Revolution because...Fuck This Shit!

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
21. looking at the turnout numbers, the suppression would have benefited both establishment
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

Dems and Repubs. AZ R's should have surged along with the rest of the country. they didn't they decreased by 20,000.

D's decreased by 50,000.

with blanket voter suppression in economically, or demographically targeted areas, they would have achieved establishment-friendly ratios.

 

baran

(92 posts)
25. State vs. Federal
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:06 PM
Mar 2016

I was wondering why our elections are run by the individual states and not by the federal govt.Wonder what the history is on that -- whether it's always been that way. Seems like if elections were run by the feds, it would at least ensure uniformity.

tblue37

(65,206 posts)
26. States' rights. States are supposed to be sovereign entities in many ways.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

Of course, states' rights are all too often used to deprive citizens of their rights.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
3. mom can barely stand for an hour
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

let alone more than that X_X but she works thru the pain. another reason Caucuses rock. you can actually SIT during one.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
4. I can't either
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

I hate vote by mail because the opportunities for cheating are even greater but I may have to do it.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
6. Ironically I do vote by mail in November
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

and I only learned about it via Republicans in the family.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
9. I've done vote by mail for many years...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

I've worried about my ballot however, I'm in California (Los Angeles County) so I'm slightly less worried about shenanigans.

I do wish I could vote online and verify my ballot even after entering it...that at least would eliminate the mail portion as well as someone else getting it scanned.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
11. that would be great
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

take a screen shot and save it. Hopefully one day we will get to that point.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
16. less can go wrong with your vote actually
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

You just drop it off in person instead of mailing it back. Then you just have to worry about the election officials themselves and the machine they feed it into for the count.

In person voting has lots more opportunities for your vote to get lost... In AZ thousands of voters never got to vote, voted provisionally which probably wont be counted, machines flip votes or otherwise break down. Poll workers are untrained or partisan.

shanti

(21,674 posts)
23. drop offs
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

that's how i do my mail in ballot here in cali. my city hall has a box, so i leave it there. so much easier, and postage free too.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. Ditto that.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

I wonder, does AZ have such a thing? And what about the remaining states?

Maybe there should be a push to get people to vote early, whenever possible.

shanti

(21,674 posts)
24. my bro and mom are in arizona
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

bro voted early and mom walked in on tuesday (both for bernie, btw). she said it was busier than usual, but not overwhelming...probably because she goes super early in the morning with all the rest of the seniors!

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
18. Exactly. Election FRAUD and voter SUPPRESSION is election FRAUD and voter SUPPRESSION no matter
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

Which CORRUPT party does it.

It MUST BE CHALLENGED.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
17. early voting helps establishment candidates
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

This is why hillary's campaign pushes it so hard. Get those votes before the voters have a chance to get to know Bernie cause when they do they switch over.
Early voting is awesome tho! We just need to help him reach those voters much earlier than a month before voting.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
19. Exit polls show that Bernie won by a wide margin
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

These were taken in one of the most conservative areas of the state. No doubt he did better elsewhere:

"Democrats in both locations were trending much more strongly for Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont than former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; 62 percent of respondents favored Sanders with just 37 percent voting for Clinton."
http://dcourier.com/news/2016/mar/22/courier-exit-polling-shows-cruz-leading-prescott-p/

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
20. I had to stand for nearly two hours in Central Austin
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 02:06 PM
Mar 2016

to vote.

I would sit from time to time when a chair would materialize along the line, but I was very sore the next day.

I work out in the pool at the Y three times a week, but standing turned out to be surprisingly hard on me.

It was also hot and smelly. People had just gotten off work and hadn't had supper yet. There was even a crying baby.

I was ill with tooth problems the week of early voting, but my kids said they had to stand in line for over an hour even then.

And, yes, AP called the election before I had voted.

The whole thing was very discouraging.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
29. Personally I am able to stand for hours,
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:21 PM
Mar 2016

even at my age (67) but not everyone can.

I do have the good fortune to live in a state (NM) with excellent early voting. We had pretty good early voting in Kansas when I was there also. I haven't voted on election day itself since at least 2000.

What we need is uniform early voting, voting by mail, same day registration, a system that allows new ballots to be printed out if the supply runs low, and probably a few other things I'm not thinking of right now.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
30. People had to wait three hours?
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

How many left because they needed to get back to work? Or needed to pick their kids up? Or had appointments? On top of the physical limitations. This actually happened?

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