An absolutely despicable screed

[choie]

against Bernie has been posted in the Hillary group. The article is from "the people's view.com" an obvious pro Clinton blog (it professes to be pro pragmatic Democrats - we know what that means). It is a truly disgusting piece that claims that Bernie is a con man and other scurrilous alegations;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110780868

[haikugal]

1. Did someone we know write it? From your description it sounds possible.

[choie]

2. There's a byline

But who knows?

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. useful thread in that it pushed my ignore list to close to 350.

[choie]

4. It raised my blood pressure

to 350 over 300!

[haikugal]

5. Wow, busy you!.,

[NRaleighLiberal]

10. yes, balancing gardening, traveling, writing - and ignoring!

[choie]

12. It's a full time job these days!

[Scootaloo]

35. It's a former DU'ers lovechild

Deaniac83, aka Spandan Chakrabarti.

Basically, it's what fascism would look like if run by Democratic partisans.

[Art_from_Ark]

6. Lots of stuff pulled out of nether regions in that article

Like this

"For roughly seventeen years, Sanders lived in small town Vermont before he entered politics."

Bernie moved to Vermont in 1968-- and his first political race was just 4 years later, in 1972, when he ran for governor.

[virtualobserver]

7. they need a pooper scooper for that one....someone must have walked David Brock.

[choie]

13. I tried to research whose behind

This rag (can you call a blog a rag?) But didn't get too far .

[virtualobserver]

14. I believe that Brock has been struggling to market his cobbled together trash....

to respectable media, so he has resorted to using websites that he owns like bluenationreview.com and questionable blogs.

It will have no effect on Bernie......

[JonLeibowitz]

16. Check out this piece of lunacy posted in 2011

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/epeoplesview.net/2011/08/left-wing-hierarchy.html

These people are more into hero worship than politics and policy. Worth noting the ICANN entry for the domain is anonymized. One wonders why...

[choie]

19. Forgive my ignorance but

What is ICANN?

[JonLeibowitz]

22. The internet "who is" database -- i.e. who registered an internet site.

[choie]

25. Thanks!

[choie]

28. Hey Jon

I just saw that you posted the article in GD. Am I in danger of getting an alert because I linked to the post?

[JonLeibowitz]

31. Maybe. I don't know. Anyway alerts don't carry many consequences these days.

[passiveporcupine]

38. I wouldn't count on that.

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Just today I saw a couple of people get hides when they were fighting with a Hillary supporter, and later in the thread someone posted their accounts were both under review. In other words, if you piss off the right people around here, you might not get a time out for too many hides, you might instead be tombstoned for one or two hides. Even if you've been here for awhile.

The place is rigged, don't cha know? Kinda like the voter system in real life.

Be careful out there. Don't let them troll you into responding in a way that can get you a hide. It's just not worth it.

[haikugal]

37. Interesting in a creepy kind of way...a training manual?

It sounded familiar somehow...

[Autumn]

34. You find what you are looking for this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022637092#post38

[grasswire]

8. that article must be aimed at Trump supporters

Aren't Democrats too smart to fall for that kind of crap?

[choie]

11. Clearly Clinton supporters aren't

If they really believe What is said

[JonLeibowitz]

9. Wow their knowledge of FEC records is dismal

They complain he got a mysterious $10 million dollar donation illegally, using this link: http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?201507159000158100

What a load of garbage. That link shows nothing of the kind. Hillary supporters must be stupider and easier to fool than I thought.

[hedda_foil]

20. They just don't spend much time researching.

That's why they refuse to believe anything negative about HRH. It's hear no evil (about H) See no evil (about H) And gawd forbid anyone speaks some evil about H, because it's a dirty, rotten LIE!

On the other hand they believe even the most insane rumors about Bernie. After all, if he's against the queen, he must be EVUUUUL

[JonLeibowitz]

23. I'm making a post in GD:P about this now. This is a truly pathetic attempt at a smear.

[senz]

32. How else could they support Hillary?

[Triana]

15. Just trashed that entire forum.

First time I've ever trashed an entire group or forum.

Enough is enough.

[Xipe Totec]

17. Did it a while ago.

Even if, in the end, I vote for her, if she becomes the nominee, if will not be due to that group, but despite it.

[choie]

18. I don't kNow why I read their posts

[NRaleighLiberal]

24. when I look at their forum I see hardly any posts...

liberal use of ignore does that, I've found!

[choie]

30. That's a beautiful thing!

[Scootaloo]

36. I did so after i got banned form there

Why read what I can't respond to?

[Triana]

39. Half of DU must be banned from there.

SO many people. I should have trashed it then but better late than never!

[Donkees]

21. " lying is the easiest way to maintain dopamine flow"

Why so many lies? Average people lie for the same reason junkies lie — to maintain dopamine flow. The average junky’s lies involve dopamine-triggering expectations associated with heroin. The average person’s lies involve dopamine-triggering expectations associated with Abraham Maslow’s four deficiency needs.

To streamline this explanation I’m condensing Maslow’s deficiency needs into two:

Physiological needs for oxygen, water, food, sex, shelter.
Psychological needs for safety/power, acceptance/approval/attention, esteem/status.

In 2010 the Scripps Research Institute issued the results of a ground-breaking study that found laboratory rats given the opportunity to consume high-calorie, high-fat (junk) foods will overeat. This overeating forces neuroadaptive changes in dopamine circuits similar to the changes in people suffering from drug addiction. As the brain’s pathways grow accustomed to being overstimulated, a pathological cycle begins where addicts require a constant flow of dopamine to avoid entering a state of withdrawal.

According to Scripps Research Associate Professor Paul J. Kenny, “What happens in addiction is lethally simple. The reward pathways in the brain have been so overstimulated that the system basically turns on itself, adapting to the new reality of addiction, whether its cocaine or cupcakes.”

Dr. Kenny’s insights raise a few questions. If cupcakes can overstimulate our delicate dopaminergic system until it turns on itself, what if our psychological needs are even more powerful than cupcakes? We’re talking about primitive dopamine-induced survival behaviors that keep humans and chimpanzees obsessing over safety/power, acceptance/approval/attention, and esteem/status. What if these psychological needs cause the brain’s pathways to grow accustomed to being overstimulated until a pathological cycle begins where psychological addicts require a constant flow of dopamine (triggered by expectations of safety/power, acceptance/approval/attention, esteem/status) to avoid entering a state of withdrawal? And why aren’t researchers scrambling to find out if Maslow’s psychological needs are capable of forcing neuroadaptive changes similar to the changes in drug addicts’ brains?

Which brings us back to the countless lies people, including scientists, tell themselves daily. I’m convinced lying is a symptom of addiction, liars/addicts are responsible for all man-made problems, and all lies can be traced to the dopamine flow associated with expectations involving drugs, gambling, food, sex, shelter, safety/power, acceptance/approval/attention, esteem/status, and/or money.

I also believe healthy people avoid lying (to themselves or others) because they don’t have any reason to lie and/or understand lying is a waste of time. Spiritual individuals don’t lie because lying is immoral and self-deception and self-actualization don’t mix.

Psychological addicts, whose dopaminergic systems have been compromised, can’t stop lying because the system has been turned on itself. Like junkies, psychological addicts require a constant flow of dopamine to avoid entering a state of withdrawal. And lying is the easiest way to maintain dopamine flow.

Anyone capable of admitting to a single lie every day for one week can test my theory by linking each lie to one or more of the following dopamine-triggering expectations:

scoring drugs, gambling, food, sex, money
protecting safety, acceptance, approval, status
increasing power, attention, and/or esteem.
I invite those who believe their lies do not involve protecting or triggering dopamine flow to send a brief description of their deceptions to [e-mail].

[JonLeibowitz]

26. GD:P discussion I just started with some debunking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511564773

[SoapBox]

27. The stuff in that group is vile.

And they want us to get in line and vote as we are told.

Fuck that shit.

[dragonfly301]

29. Looks like the People's Spew is still at it

they are the lowest form of yellow journalism - surprised any true Democrat would resort to using them as a reference.

[Autumn]

33. "the people's view.com" Spandan, a troll banned from DU aka

s useful tool that is pulled out when needed.