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mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:59 PM Mar 2016

About the bird visiting the Bernie event in Portland...

This touched me deeply. I mean deeply. I'm a 56 year old woman, atheist, nature lover, tired and cynical, glass-half-empty type. I have no children, so have no parental fears about the future (can't imagine how horrifying those are these days). When I viewed the Portland event, I was moved beyond words. If I was forced to worship a deity (something possible in a Cruz presidency), my deity would have an animal form. I can't express exactly what I feel about the Bernie bird, but it's profound...

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About the bird visiting the Bernie event in Portland... (Original Post) mak3cats Mar 2016 OP
I agree! Awknid Mar 2016 #1
I lol'd at this line here... retrowire Mar 2016 #2
If I became a deist, my deity would still be an animal... mak3cats Mar 2016 #40
Do you know those are Buddhist beliefs? senz Mar 2016 #84
I lived in New Orleans and Slidell for many years Oilwellian Mar 2016 #87
Ethan Allen comes to mind flamingdem Mar 2016 #60
Birds have the vision to see. WheelWalker Mar 2016 #3
The Universe endorses Bernie. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #4
good things can still heppen questionseverything Mar 2016 #66
cool glinda Mar 2016 #73
I have an important bird in my past, so I do babylonsister Mar 2016 #5
It was an extraordinary moment. Nyan Mar 2016 #6
next to the water bottle, Bernie had just been discussing fracking and clean water. Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #11
Wow - that is almost eerie. Eerie in a good way. jillan Mar 2016 #16
It was a perfect moment. suffragette Mar 2016 #48
There are no coincidences. glinda Mar 2016 #74
Video of Trump vs. #FeelTheBird deepestblue Mar 2016 #7
I cannot get over how talented people are, that was amazing. jillan Mar 2016 #18
The bird was amazing. dchill Mar 2016 #29
That was just beautiful! delrem Mar 2016 #45
What a beautiful moment... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #50
I can watch that over and over... smiley Mar 2016 #77
you are not the only one FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #8
I love his smile at the end. It moved him, too. senz Mar 2016 #33
When I was diagnosed with cancer, and for sure I was dying angstlessk Mar 2016 #9
Beautiful. wendylaroux Mar 2016 #10
That was beautiful. And very profound. jillan Mar 2016 #20
Connection. It deepens life, gives meaning. senz Mar 2016 #34
Very beautiful. Yet that's the parental fear Duppers Mar 2016 #49
Great graphic from Twitter: IDemo Mar 2016 #12
This is effing perfect! (eom) mak3cats Mar 2016 #13
And that bird really did make a difference. It warmed so many people's hearts today. jillan Mar 2016 #21
Perfect cantbeserious Mar 2016 #25
Awesomeness KeepItReal Mar 2016 #63
I am with you all the way. It was a sign. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #14
It was definitely a sign! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #24
Her aides are busy doing it as we speak! senz Mar 2016 #35
I could just imagine a flock of chickens Wednesdays Mar 2016 #58
I was very deeply moved by this me b zola Mar 2016 #15
he understood it glinda Mar 2016 #75
My first posting on a forum Biaviians Mar 2016 #17
Terrific how that has been the feeling of so many today IDemo Mar 2016 #19
Thank you, and welcome... mak3cats Mar 2016 #22
We are so happy that little bird brought you over here. Welcome to DU!! jillan Mar 2016 #23
Thankful for this group! Biaviians Mar 2016 #28
Welcome, Biaviians! senz Mar 2016 #82
We welcome you with open arms. SamKnause Mar 2016 #53
Hello and welcome ! agracie Mar 2016 #57
welcome to the flock ! GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #61
welcome! glinda Mar 2016 #76
Found this interesting & seems to fit Bernie & his campaign to a T. southerncrone Mar 2016 #26
It's hard to tell from the photos... mak3cats Mar 2016 #30
IIRC, what we call Wednesdays Mar 2016 #59
The Audubon Society identified it as a female house finch nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #68
For the record a group of finches is called a charm. sarge43 Mar 2016 #85
On Good Friday - thats not a coincidence - thats a sign FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #27
Aren't you glad this is the Bernie Group and they can't come in with senz Mar 2016 #36
I was there today grasswire Mar 2016 #31
I read your post about being there... mak3cats Mar 2016 #32
I'm so glad you were there, grasswire! senz Mar 2016 #37
thank you for saying that, senz grasswire Mar 2016 #41
Wow, thanks! senz Mar 2016 #43
Strangely moving, to be sure. 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #38
Since RFK, I haven't seen a campaign suffused with this much numinosity. senz Mar 2016 #39
On Good Friday, for a Jew. grasswire Mar 2016 #42
Yes. It's an omen. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #44
The Evangelists will now ditch Trump Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #54
I have been adopted by a Pileated. glinda Mar 2016 #78
Yes, they know things we don't know in ways we can't imagine. senz Mar 2016 #81
Indeed. Read my sig line in regards to your observation. glinda Mar 2016 #86
Out of curiosity I just checked YouTube.... Left Coast2020 Mar 2016 #46
An individual video of this event would be hard to hit 1 million as there are LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #55
Soul sister Duppers Mar 2016 #47
I feel the same way. I spend many hours in nature photographing birds Lorien Mar 2016 #51
Amazing photo! Stardust Mar 2016 #52
What a fantastic photo. Beautiful! snagglepuss Mar 2016 #56
I'm like you and the originator of this thread Plucketeer Mar 2016 #72
beautiful glinda Mar 2016 #79
Namaste and solidarity always TBF Mar 2016 #62
Hey Bernie! Lorien Mar 2016 #64
Oh, love it. senz Mar 2016 #83
Awwww libodem Mar 2016 #65
I feel ya, mak3cats Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2016 #67
I'm share your perspective (atheist too) and I too felt universe moving there riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #69
PLEASE SIGN! Petition to arrest Donald Trump for incitement of violence. vank210 Mar 2016 #70
i know its a cliche by now lordsummerisle Mar 2016 #71
Animals tend to approach me and find peace. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #80

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
2. I lol'd at this line here...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016
"If I was forced to worship a deity (something possible in a Cruz presidency)"


hahahahaha

Have you considered being a deist? A couple of our forefathers were after all.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
40. If I became a deist, my deity would still be an animal...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:48 AM
Mar 2016

I wonder about that: I lived in New Orleans for much of my formative years, even though I was born (and live now) in NY. I shamelessly killed many a cockroach during that era. But the insects I live with now get a free ride; at worse I gather one or two up and put them outside (my beau is spider phobic, but is a nature lover too, so gives them a chance by letting me rescue them). Based on my luck, though, when I hit the afterlife (if it exists, which I don't believe in either), the entity sitting on the throne is going to be a damn cockroach, I just know it!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
84. Do you know those are Buddhist beliefs?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:28 PM
Mar 2016

I spent a few days at a Buddhist retreat and was instructed not to kill any insects in my cabin room. They too believe in reincarnation and the idea is that you don't know who an insect might be. They're not theists either, and it sounds like your belief system may be compatible with theirs.

(I don't like to kill insects because it seems like it would hurt to be crushed. Although I will swat mosquitoes and pesky flies "in self-defense" with an apology and a RIP.)

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
87. I lived in New Orleans and Slidell for many years
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

and I know of what you speak when it comes to roaches there. I've always thought they should become the state bird because they freaking fly! LOL Plus, you can have a spotless home and still have roach issues. The ground there is so soft, it's a perfect environment for them. Now I'm in Virginia and haven't seen one roach in my over 25 years here. There really is a God. LOL

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
66. good things can still heppen
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

"But ask the animals,
and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky,
and they will tell you..."

job 12

babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
5. I have an important bird in my past, so I do
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

get you. That bird touched me, and then there were more birds... Grateful.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
6. It was an extraordinary moment.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

That bird perched right on "Future to believe in" sign and faced Bernie.

deepestblue

(349 posts)
7. Video of Trump vs. #FeelTheBird
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Mar 2016

From the video:

"The day Donald Trump won 4 states in the primaries, lightning struck Trump Tower in Chicago. The day after the Bloomberg National poll announced Bernie Sanders pulled ahead of Hillary, this happened..."


delrem

(9,688 posts)
45. That was just beautiful!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:23 AM
Mar 2016

What right thinking person wouldn't want to put an end to the PNAC wars?

Also I think Sanders has a history of being able to work with other politicians, to get things done.

I can easily see him as the next US president, bringing sense to US politics.
He has strong backup - there are a shitload of good Dems.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
50. What a beautiful moment...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:25 AM
Mar 2016

...and thank you for posting the video, I kept hearing about it but had not yet seen it.

Well here's hoping that bird is a harbinger of the primaries still to come! Regardless of any outcomes, though, that moment was beautiful and profound.

smiley

(1,432 posts)
77. I can watch that over and over...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

and get chills through my body each time.

Deeply moving and symbolic.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
8. you are not the only one
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016


I have watched it a hundred times from different angles, and each time I watch I find another person in the frame and then revel in that person's joy. There was one woman wiping tears from her eyes and that just broke me up.
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. I love his smile at the end. It moved him, too.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:28 AM
Mar 2016

He inspires so much hope in people.

I think the whole nation has needed this campaign.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
9. When I was diagnosed with cancer, and for sure I was dying
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:22 PM
Mar 2016

I did not look up to a deity, I looked down to an ant colony, and why they gave their lives readily for the colony, for their GENES

I understood, I will die, but the most important part of me will live on...my GENES.

I understood that somehow the GENES I possessed came down from 1,000+ generations.

I was the prodigy of how many mothers through history who did not die before my ancestor lived?

We today are ALIVE by some 'miracle' that enabled all of our ancestors to live long enough to give us birth!

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
49. Very beautiful. Yet that's the parental fear
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 03:34 AM
Mar 2016

that Make3cats' wrote about. That's the essence of my sadness, as a mother, over the coming sixth extinction.

It's ALL going to end ...too soon and with suffering. The roaches will survive, they always do, and perhaps a few small animals and a few sea critters.

I struggle daily with this knowledge. I too have faced my mortality, with horrible fear and deep depression at first. But then I gained courage that astonished my hubs. I've held on to that courage until the last few years. Knowledge can be brutal but I prefer knowing than sticking my head in the sand and making the situation worse for younger generations. The sand heads are cowards who are contributing the most to the problem. I suppose I agree with Bertrand Russell.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
21. And that bird really did make a difference. It warmed so many people's hearts today.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

STILL berning up Twitter.

#BirdieSanders

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
15. I was very deeply moved by this
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

...and I think that it is safe to say that Bernie was too. The look on his face, the peace and joy he seemed to radiate. The crowd, their reaction. The entire thing was touching beyond words.

Biaviians

(167 posts)
28. Thankful for this group!
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:05 AM
Mar 2016

I found this site a week ago and have been enjoying myself. When I want to know what's going on in the world of Bernie I come here and never miss a thing.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
26. Found this interesting & seems to fit Bernie & his campaign to a T.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:52 AM
Mar 2016

Sparrow Associated Traits:
Powerful, Productive, Friendly, Persistent, Integrity, Simplicity, Caring, Creativity, Vigilant, Communal, Empowerment

Much more at link.

http://www.sunsigns.org/sparrow-animal-totem-symbolism-meanings/

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
30. It's hard to tell from the photos...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

...but it looks more like a type of finch to me. I'm just an amateur birder, and a lot farther east, so I could absolutely be wrong. I would really like a definitive ID of the bird.

(But I'm sure that any bird would more likely fit Bernie than her Highness. Thanks for the interesting link!)

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
85. For the record a group of finches is called a charm.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:01 AM
Mar 2016

She charmed us all.

I was struck by Senator Sanders' reaction. He was in the moment. I think he knew something unique had happened.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
27. On Good Friday - thats not a coincidence - thats a sign
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016

and Bernie replies "That's really a Dove asking for world Peace"


Now before the Hillary supporters start diminishing this or insinuating some sort of avian conspiracy ...


Ask yourself one question - what are the odds that a Little Birdy would land on the podium of the Jewish Candidate who is "Honestly" working for people of all color. And then Bernie replies "That is really a Dove asking for World Peace" - on Good Friday !

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. Aren't you glad this is the Bernie Group and they can't come in with
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:38 AM
Mar 2016

the usual sour cynicism and ridicule?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
31. I was there today
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:12 AM
Mar 2016

I saw it as a sign. And I believe that many other people did too.

The audience just exploded with cheer. No one will ever forget the moment.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
32. I read your post about being there...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:16 AM
Mar 2016

Thank you! Since I'm obviously lurking in my own thread, I'm interested in what everyone else feels. I'm still feeling rather other-worldly about it. Maybe I should go to bed?

3catwoman3

(23,950 posts)
38. Strangely moving, to be sure.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:43 AM
Mar 2016

I would love to see if on the Jumbotron.

Thank you, little bird, for a touching and memorable moment.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
39. Since RFK, I haven't seen a campaign suffused with this much numinosity.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:45 AM
Mar 2016

The Christian symbolism alone has been striking and uncanny to the point that I back off thinking about it.

Nature has its mystery and profundity. Sometimes a pulse or hum or lightness is sensed in a woods or meadow rich with life. I've noticed animals or birds will sometimes approach a person who is very innocent, someone who doesn't frighten them. There are unseen connections we don't understand.

I am not at all surprised that a little bird visited Bernie in front of thousands of cheering people.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
42. On Good Friday, for a Jew.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 01:57 AM
Mar 2016

It boggles the mind.

This is how people used to feel about "miracles" I guess.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
78. I have been adopted by a Pileated.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

He calls to me inside the house to come out and feed him. Sometimes not even to feed him. He dive bombed me one day by flying straight at me and then lifted up over my head to show me his colors. He has done that couple of times now. I love him so much that I had someone felt a sculpture of him for me.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
81. Yes, they know things we don't know in ways we can't imagine.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

I like that; I don't want my homo sapiens brain-type to know everything. With other species, we do well to remain open and receptive. The Native Americans had it best: honor nature, it is wise and we can learn from it.

Seems pretty clear your Pileated friend has taken a personal liking to you. You got a friend.

An old friend of mine who stuck by me during a rough time in high school, who stayed loyal and very kind when I needed it, had a bird adopt her some years later. It was one of the types that lives long, but it wasn't as big as a parrot. Anyway, it alighted on her front between her shoulder and chin, would not let go, so she took it home, got a perch for it, and it lived happily in her house ever after. As far as I know, it's still with her. Who can understand these things? But Amy had a good, good soul, and I'd imagine other creatures can pick up on things like that.

If I were a bird, I'd hang around Bernie.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
46. Out of curiosity I just checked YouTube....
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:36 AM
Mar 2016

....thinking there would be at least 1-million hits on this.

Sadly it only has 135,000 so far.

But maybe it will get there.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
55. An individual video of this event would be hard to hit 1 million as there are
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:11 AM
Mar 2016

probably hundreds of different ones out. I think I have seen about 50 different links here.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
47. Soul sister
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 02:44 AM
Mar 2016

Add 10 yrs, parental fears (1 son), and cleverness , and we're the same person. I was also very strangely moved.

Feeling the Bern.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
51. I feel the same way. I spend many hours in nature photographing birds
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:47 AM
Mar 2016

It's much easier for me to get a good photo of an egret, great blue heron or bald eagle than a decent photo of a small finch or songbird. They're nervous animals, they never stay still for more than a second or two, and they fly away at the first sign of movement. That one flew down from the ceiling in the center of a YUGE crowd, with so much movement and noise...it's just unbelievable! I have a friend who trains birds professionally for a show at Disney's Animal Kingdom, and I doubt that even her best bird would have dared to land where that finch landed, FACING Bernie for several seconds. Completely out of character for the species! I'm a complete atheist (raised as one too) and never believe in "signs", but that moment shook my beliefs. It was magical.

Probably my best small bird photo. Weaver birds are very common in South Africa, but still tough to capture in a photo!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
72. I'm like you and the originator of this thread
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016

And I like to shoot pictures of nature as well - and it IS tough to get these little guys with their twitchy temperament. So I too, was blown away as I watched this feathered guest inspire like he'd never imagined. It was a magical moment, to be sure.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
69. I'm share your perspective (atheist too) and I too felt universe moving there
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

it was an uncanny moment and I thought "The gods are watching over him".

vank210

(2 posts)
70. PLEASE SIGN! Petition to arrest Donald Trump for incitement of violence.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:11 PM
Mar 2016

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Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
80. Animals tend to approach me and find peace.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:14 PM
Mar 2016

I can see that Mr. Sanders radiates a similar vibe.

Peace be with you, mak3cats.

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