Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumWhat say you New York?
Listening to CNN and they are saying Hillary is going to take New York.
Just curious any people on the ground have anything different to say?
TDale313
(7,820 posts)And very close ties with elected officials there. It would not surprise me if she wins there. I'd settle for close.
In my state of California, though- I think we can and will win here 🙂
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)bumper stickers etc. But on the other hand I don't see any Hillary.
I know it's still too far away for people here to think about. I live in an old boy
area so I've heard a few Trumpers. I know a few Berners. Met a few Berners.
Good to see he's done a triple decker today! Or trifecta!
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)I don't personally know anyone who thinks of HRC as "ours" despite her being a senator from NY for 8 years.
Downstate might be a different thing, what with her home in Westchester county, but outside of NYC she is definitely not seen as a native NYer...
LiberalArkie
(15,713 posts)crowds. But he does not control the voting machines.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)Upstate went overwhelmingly for Cuomo's very liberal challenger in the last Democratic governorship primary.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Sitting governor. It's what gave me the notion that Sanders had a shot at the nomination.
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+ In a typical general election a 60-33 win would pretty good. But for a sitting governor in a party primary it's bad by the standard of recent history. Ahead of the primary FiveThirtyEight looked at party primary races around the nation involving incumbent governors since 2002 -- and Cuomo's percentage of the vote in this primary ranks near the bottom of this list.
It's an especially weak result for Cuomo considering two other factors: 1) Just a few months ago polls indicated very few people knew much of anything about Zephyr Teachout and 2) Cuomo had an enormous money advantage.
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http://alloveralbany.com/archive/2014/09/10/clickable-county-by-county-results-for-the-cuomo-t
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I'm gonna send her some cash.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Live in Connecticut and New Jersey. It's a short hop on the train across the Hudson to NJ, and a short commuter rail ride to CT.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)That said: there's a lot of sentiment for Sanders on the street.
College-types are for him... including non-whites at campuses like Hostos and Bx CC.
Most older people aren't familiar w. him, in my experience .... or just don't want to get involved.
We'll see.
eilen
(4,950 posts)Sen Gillibrand was one of her protoges-- And she is from upstate. I am in upstate/central area of NY
However, most I've met in my town see her as a carpet-bagger but the more vociferous ones won't be voting Democratic either. She and Bill have visited quite a few times because the State Fair is here and one of their close friends is from the county--McAuliffe. So, I'd say the established Democratic Party will be pushing her, the heads of the teacher's unions, and probably the politically connected members of the trades-- officially. But the rank and file, the nurses, etc. will be voting for Bernie.
I can see there being some issues on primary day.
I don't know how people will vote downstate. Long Island, Westchester, Dutchess, Orange, Putnam, Rockland are bedroom communities and trend more conservative I think. ... I don't know; NYC will probably go for her. That's Wall St. and rich people-- media types, etc. Plus we don't have the lever machines anymore. NY has a reputation for dirty elections from way back.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)and am in touch with people all over the state.
Buffalo, Rochester, Albany, Kingston, Poughkeepsie, New Paltz are all Bernie towns as far as I know.
The North Country, north of Albany will go for Bernie, because the folks who listen to the NPR affiliate, WAMC, have heard Bernie on that station for YEARS. (The station has a repeater across the lake from Burlington).
I live near New Paltz, and see not a hint of support for Clinton.
Most of the folks that I know, both young and old prefer Bernie.
In most of the state, Clinton is considered a carpetbagger from what I can tell. Though there are pockets of support in Long Island, Staten Island, and the central area of the state, they do not make up the population centers, and lean more conservative. Most of the folks I know in the other four boroughs are for Bernie. There have been mass rallies for Bernie in Manhattan. There was one rally for Clinton, when she kicked off her campaign, and some high priced dinners in NYC. Other than that, I have seen little support for Clinton.
People Westchester hate it when her entourage comes around with all the Secret Service and makes a mess of traffic too.
Everywhere I go, I see Bernie yard signs, bumper stickers, and buttons.
We are going to rename our stretch of Creek Locks Road here in Rosendale, Bernieville, where there are Bernie signs on most of the front yards.
It makes sense that Bernie could take NY, because he has the accent, he's from Brooklyn, and Vermont was originally part of New York!
PS - Then, there's Zephyr Teachout, a Bernie supporter who will have to be mentioned in another post!