Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumBernie won Wyoming, but they each got 7 delegates a piece. How and why?
He needed 56% or above to score that 8th delegate, and we were just short.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4e4n8r/eli5_bernie_won_wyoming_but_they_each_got_7/
TexasBushwhacker
(20,142 posts)In what universe does a 12% margin translate to 50/50?
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)system today. I'm afraid what kind of crap they are going to pull
in New York? Political parties and the media can kiss my grits.
TBF
(32,004 posts)she has done this one way or another in most of the states, starting with her miraculous coin flips in Iowa.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,142 posts)Her way. What about Nevada? Isn't Bernie supposed to pick up a couple of delegates?
TBF
(32,004 posts)Its unclear at this time exactly what this means statewide or how many extra delegates Sanders will pick up from the state convention. There are 35 delegates total for Nevada and 25 are rewarded proportionally based on caucus results. Twelve are awarded through county conventions. Sanders may pick up as few as just one or two extra delegates, or it could give Sanders as many as 10 extra delegates in the national convention. (Nevada also has eight superdelegates.) Source: http://heavy.com/news/2016/04/bernie-sanders-wins-nevada-flips-clark-county-convention-las-vegas-delegates-arrested-clinton-videos/
I'm pretty sure the democrats in Nevada will have a state convention in which this will be worked out (delegates will be selected to go to the democratic national convention this summer).
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)So 57%-43% turns into 7-11 in delegates?
is wrong with this party?
Bernin4U
(812 posts)Esp compared to, say, IA, where her 0.3% win gave her +2 pledged delegates.
Thinking maybe it has to do with per-county allocations?
jillan
(39,451 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)14 delegates translates to 7.14% per delegate. (100/14 = 7.14)
6 delegates x 7.14 = 42.84%
7 delegates x 7.14 = 49.98%
8 delegates x 7.14 = 57.14%
At 55% Bernie was 5+ points above 7 and 2.14 points below 8 delegates
At 45% Hills was 2+ points above 6 and just under 5 points below 7 delegates
why? Really, you have to ask?
Obviously, Bernie "owes" Hills 5 of his % just... because.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)in the surrogate ballots.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)bottom line: rampant cheating. so what else is new?
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)A comment on reddit gives this explanation:
Doing the math on all 14 at once, Bernie would have gotten 8. But instead they do the math separately on the 8, 4, and 2. So Bernie got 4/8 Congressional District delegates, 2/4 At-Large delegates, and 1/2 PLEO delegates.
I haven't checked it out but that's plausible to me. The general rule is that states have some delegates allocated by CD (per the vote in that CD) and some by the statewide vote.
The problem here is that Wyoming has only one CD. The "vote in that CD" and "the statewide vote" are necessarily the same. Accordingly, the usual formula shouldn't be woodenly applied in the handful of small states with only one CD. In those states, the inequities that inevitably attend the rounding-off process can be minimized by lumping together the calculations for the CD delegates and the statewide delegates.
We're presumably stuck with the bad result for this cycle. For the future, though, the party should modify the rules for the one-CD states.
xloadiex
(628 posts)Have you read this? There is also a MoveOn Petition calling for an investigation.
http://politicswithsoul.blogspot.com/2016/04/clinton-profits-in-wyoming-from-gop.html
eridani
(51,907 posts)In WA State, no more than 1/3 of total votes were from surrogate forms.
eridani
(51,907 posts)That's when Bernie gets 10-12 of 13 delegates.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)on wyoming results diminish & other primaries have taken place. the billary campaign is taking every advantage they can devise - because ...
TBF
(32,004 posts)At this level Hillary doesn't have to actually win - she just has to look like she's inevitable (which is why the bots spend so much time on that aspect). If donations dry up Bernie can't keep going. We've got to donate, call, rally, donate, call, rally, etc. Keep it going. Do.Not.Give.In. I don't care if you're sending $50 per month or $2 per month - the point is to keep going. Nothing is ironclad until we get to the state conventions picking delegates, and then what they do at the convention. Hell, for all we know it could all blow up and go to Biden or something.
We've got to be vigilant and play to win. If we can get Bernie to the nomination he is in good shape to win the general. He matches up MUCH better against any republican than Hillary Clinton does. And if it's really going to be Paul Ryan as the nominee at least we have a fighting chance with Bernie. No doubt in my mind Hillary can not beat Ryan.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)when racing an obstacle course of barriers to winning. we keep on keepin' on and do not waste time looking back to complain or whine or celebrate overcoming hurdles. plenty of time for that later. to win, one must be focused on the prize and not waste energy on stuff that can be dealt with later.
donate.call.rally.donate.call.rally
.keep it going. no. giving.in! it ain't over 'till it's over. keep.your.eyes.on.the.prize.
thanks, tbf