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Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:11 PM

Why are Clinton supporters so bitter

About Sanders going to the Vatican? Isn't it good for everybody that he is spreading a message of equality to the world?

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Reply Why are Clinton supporters so bitter (Original post)
Helen Borg Apr 2016 OP
villager Apr 2016 #1
roguevalley Apr 2016 #16
Baobab Apr 2016 #18
yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #2
left-of-center2012 Apr 2016 #3
MissDeeds Apr 2016 #6
TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #4
Scootaloo Apr 2016 #5
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #7
bbgrunt Apr 2016 #26
thereismore Apr 2016 #8
1monster Apr 2016 #9
Bernin4U Apr 2016 #12
Hawaiianlight Apr 2016 #10
mindwalker_i Apr 2016 #11
Phlem Apr 2016 #13
bvar22 Apr 2016 #14
polichick Apr 2016 #15
SoapBox Apr 2016 #21
pangaia Apr 2016 #28
polichick Apr 2016 #34
choie Apr 2016 #17
Depaysement Apr 2016 #19
choie Apr 2016 #20
SoapBox Apr 2016 #22
ladyVet Apr 2016 #23
HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #24
Helen Borg Apr 2016 #25
CountAllVotes Apr 2016 #27
bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #29
Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #30
Helen Borg Apr 2016 #31
Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #33
surrealAmerican Apr 2016 #32

Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:14 PM

1. They are very bitter in general. The opposite of Hubert Humphrey's "politics of joy," really.

 

I wonder how they imagine that's appealing for a campaign?

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:42 PM

16. consider what they ignore, the huge ugly magnitude of it and know they support it when they do

not everyone here is a progressive or even much of a dem. Some have only Reagan and everyone after as visions of leadership.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:12 PM

18. I think you're right. I had never thought of the Democratic party as something that somebody

would be attracted to just because they wanted to win because I have persisted in thinking of it as the party of everyday people and of democracy and common sense that comes with the wisdom of all.

Out of many, one.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:14 PM

2. Because they are young and in love?

That's all I can come up with.
Seems to me this is good for the (real) Democratic Party.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:22 PM

3. Their candidate is always screaming? n/t

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:30 PM

6. And lying n/t

 

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:23 PM

4. Jealousy is a terrible thing

when it goes out of control.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:28 PM

5. Better question is, is there anything they're NOT bitter about?

 

There is no bigger collection of sourpusses in the nation.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:33 PM

7. Several reasons, I think:

1. Bernie is playing a long game - a very long game. His goal is much larger than just winning the nomination and the presidency; it's to start a monumental change in the way governance in a democracy is done - without the pernicious influence of big money, so ordinary people can have a fair chance at actually being heard, so government responds to our needs instead of just sucking us dry. Hillary is for more of what we've been getting for years, which is sucking hind teat economically and in terms of governance. The difference between the GOP and establishment Democratic politicians like Hillary is that the Dems are more socially liberal and more likely to support liberal social initiatives like pro-choice and pro-environment legislation, LGBT rights, etc., but they are willing to compromise on even these things if that's necessary to keep the gravy train running in their direction. That's the mindset Bernie opposes. When he decided to run for the nomination he probably didn't expect to be this successful. His goal has always been to wake people up to the terrible consequences of economic injustice. In that respect his campaign has been the maturation of the Occupy movement. Whether or not Bernie wins, this movement can't be stopped. But Hillary's folks don't like to be reminded that Bernie represents something much bigger and more important than politics as usual.

2. The optics of Bernie talking about the idolatry of money at an international conference while Hillary rubs shoulders with the glitterati at a $353K fundraiser for the rich and famous are not good, and they know it. Hence this morning's staged photo-ops she did with some poor people in Harlem, which were not unlike Paul Ryan's fake pot-washing at a food bank during the last election cycle. "See? I care about the poors, too! I even spoke to a couple of them!"

3. Somebody who made more money giving a few speeches to the vampire squids of Wall Street than would be necessary to support four middle-class families for a year will not be asked to talk to an international conference about economic justice.

4. Anything Bernie does, regardless of how positive (or maybe especially positive things), has to be downgraded, disregarded, misrepresented and made fun of. That's the whole stated plan of her campaign: "Disqualify and defeat." The mean-girl sniping about and Benghazi-ing of this conference is exactly that.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:40 AM

26. +100

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:36 PM

8. They only care about the abuela in the Casa Blanca. Basta!

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:36 PM

9. These alerts are getting ridiculous...

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Response to 1monster (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:58 PM

12. Oh, that is funny!

Thanks!

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:36 PM

10. Religeous wars

Bernie and the Pope continue to blasphemy the Clinton cult of money worship.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:50 PM

11. They have to put up with us all the time

It can't be easy being a Hillary supporter around here. Most on DU are supporting Sanders, and they have to see us all day, every day posting things about why Sanders would be a better president, from supporting the non-rich, being more honest, and not being investigated by the FBI. That's just a few. What can a Hillary supporter say about Hillary? They can't say a lot about her record or positions - they change all the time - so they have to make shit up like "she's strong." Or she's The Democrat (tm), regardless of her or Bernie's positions.

I can honestly see why they would get quite worn out trying to defend her. Of course, it would be better to honestly and objectively review their support for her, but that would be a really hard thing to do.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:03 PM

13. Right!?

And then you see posts like "If he was nicer to her, I would blah blah blah" and you know it doesn't play that way.

They have been bitter since the first freaking day they shoved Hillary in our face as "The Only Choice".

Don't let them get to you. I was here the first time she tried to be President and she's behaving even more shameless than before.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:08 PM

14. I don't know, and have wondered myself.

It appears to be a lack of boundaries where any criticism of Hillary is perceived as an attack against themselves personally.
Conservative Victim Ethos?

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:09 PM

15. Because down deep they know he is authentic and she is a con...

who steals whatever positions she needs to advance her power agenda.

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Response to polichick (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:22 AM

21. ^ This! ^

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Response to polichick (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:44 AM

28. I also suspect that many of Clinton's supporters, and not just here by any means,

have never seen 'authentic' before. Thus, they do not recognize it.

He must be an egotistical, selfish liar like all the rest. He just MUST be!

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Response to pangaia (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:35 PM

34. True - and that's really been clear with the Vatican meeting...

They speak of it only in political terms, the way the Clintons would see it.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:48 PM

17. Because they thought she'd be crowned

Without any competition - boy were they wrong!!!!

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Response to choie (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:52 PM

19. Thread winner!

The Coronation has been delayed.

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Response to Depaysement (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:54 AM

20. 12 years on DU and I

I'm finally a thread winner!! Thanks, Depaysement!

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Response to choie (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 03:23 AM

22. ^ And this too! ^

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:33 AM

23. Because flip flops aren't in style this year? nt

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:25 AM

24. Unsweetened Koolaid most likely.

 

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:30 AM

25. Oh man, just noticed how much worse things are today!

Now that it is actually known that Sanders met the Pope! All evidence indicates these sentiments have to do with jealousy, in my opinion. It is disgraceful.

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Response to Helen Borg (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:41 AM

27. Jealously

It's that ugly green eyed monster that will be the death knell of this whole game.

THE SIN OF JEALOUSY. Jealousy is listed by the apostle Paul as a work of the flesh in Galatians 5:20, and will keep one from entering into heaven (Gal 5:21).

Whipsee diddledee dandy dee. Oh!



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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:50 AM

29. Jealous or know that Bernie is gaining the respect of so many people. It's hard for them to see.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:55 AM

30. Reality is setting in

and it doesn't look good for them. She won't get enough delegates to win it outright and the results of the good old FBI investigation loom on the horizon. It's getting closer every day and there is a lot of angst in the air.

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Response to Land of Enchantment (Reply #30)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:02 PM

31. It's gonna be a great convention!

Bring all the data, it's obvious who should be nominated and who should be running against the republican opponent.

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Response to Helen Borg (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:12 PM

33. Agreed. And if the SD's

continue to stubbornly support her in the FACE of the polls showing the GOP will destroy her then the party is over for the establishment D's. Fractured? Nope, crushed beyond all repair.

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Response to Helen Borg (Original post)

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 12:04 PM

32. I think it undermines two of their main selling points for their candidate ...

1. The ability to function on the world stage
2. The ability to appeal to Christians

They very badly want Bernie to fail at these two points.

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