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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:00 AM Apr 2016

Bernie has been too nice to Hillary. We may pay the price for that.

I understand that he has wanted to run an issues-only campaign; he is an ethical man. He has chosen to rise above it all, and I love him for that. I applauded him when he said the American people were sick and tired of her damn emails! I have respected his silence regarding the FBI investigation. He never once called her out on all of her lies and distortions, and there have been plenty of them over the years - Bosnia sniper fire, Chelsea at Ground Zero when the planes hit, named after the Mt Everest guy...the list just goes on and on.

Sadly, I am beginning to realize the price we will pay for Bernie's ethics.

Personally, I think the FBI will probably recommend that Clinton be indicted (along with quite a few of her aides), but I am afraid it will be after the convention. There are so many ways that she has allegedly broken the law, wow! If the Justice Dept follows through, and she is charged after the convention, the democrats will be screwed. If the Justice Dept refuses to indict the democratic front runner, then the FBI will release all the damaging info and she will get tried in the public domain. It will be a bloodbath.

On top of that, Anonymous has done a data dump (I refuse to link to it) that I am certain is being devoured as we speak by republican operatives. There's a lot of right wing bullshit in it, but there's also a tremendous amount of jaw-dropping stuff. Everything is substantiated with a link to a news site. Donald's going to have a field day with it all.

We're screwed. Thanks DNC for throwing all your weight behind a candidate with so much baggage. OMG.

If only Bernie had fought dirty, but I really don't mean that. It's just not who he is, and that's why I love him so much.

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Bernie has been too nice to Hillary. We may pay the price for that. (Original Post) FourScore Apr 2016 OP
Reader comment on Huffington - 840high Apr 2016 #1
I saw this comment earlier... grasswire Apr 2016 #4
Anonymous has found stuff I'd never seen before. FourScore Apr 2016 #5
That doesn't include the clear FEC violations for setting up shop at the same time she was silvershadow Apr 2016 #11
she is putting the party in a worse position than John Edwards was willing to do. bbgrunt Apr 2016 #22
I thought of that weeks ago. grasswire Apr 2016 #2
Well at least he's in it to the end. I told them to stay in just in case charges come. He silvershadow Apr 2016 #12
true, it is all self inflicted grasswire Apr 2016 #14
"Deal me in!". Always "me". Bernie is always "we". nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #17
when was this data dump? nt grasswire Apr 2016 #3
I think it first appeared a couple of weeks ago, but I think it is being constantly updated. FourScore Apr 2016 #8
I disagree Rebkeh Apr 2016 #6
I don't know why you are disagreeing. I also said it's why I love him. FourScore Apr 2016 #9
I didn't catch the sarcasm Rebkeh Apr 2016 #13
If, gawd forbid, H loses and Trump wins RobertEarl Apr 2016 #7
I believe Trump WILL win over HRC grasswire Apr 2016 #15
Probably RobertEarl Apr 2016 #21
As you know, it was never a choice. Nyan Apr 2016 #10
I agree. He has been building his movement his whole life. This will be the silvershadow Apr 2016 #16
It'll be a favor only if the party comes to terms with the reality of the movement, Nyan Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #20
He's a true Statesman... Paka Apr 2016 #23
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
1. Reader comment on Huffington -
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:08 AM
Apr 2016

on Huff:


Steve Wehrly · Seattle University
Can anybody believe that the investigation would still be going on if the FBI has found nothing? Plus, there are two tracks to the investigation, either of which could end Clinton's campaign: 1. the emails; 2. the foundation and Huma Abedin's work and pay (simultaneously) for the State Dept., Mrs. Clinton personally, the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton lobbying/PR firm. Is it even possible that Abedin's work in all four positions did not involve a conflict of interest and conspiracy? If either Clinton or Abedin tried to hide one incriminating e-mail, both would be liable to prosecution. Obama's entire Presidencial legacy will be shattered if he or Justice tries to cover up, to say nothing of the impeachment that will begin immediately if there's no indictment or if Obama tries to pardon Clinton, Abedin or anybody else.





grasswire

(50,130 posts)
4. I saw this comment earlier...
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

...and I thought it remarkable that this writer considered impeachment for OBAMA as a possible consequence of a coverup.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
11. That doesn't include the clear FEC violations for setting up shop at the same time she was
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:42 AM
Apr 2016

raking in some of those big bucks at the "speeches" we never got the transcripts for.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
12. Well at least he's in it to the end. I told them to stay in just in case charges come. He
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:45 AM
Apr 2016

Cannot concede. What a freaking disaster for the party in deference to egomaniacal narcissism. And they accuse me of not having any class. If she had any at all, she wouldn't even be in this under the circumstances.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
14. true, it is all self inflicted
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:50 AM
Apr 2016

...but she twists it to make it seem like a RW attack on her.

Ever the victim.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
8. I think it first appeared a couple of weeks ago, but I think it is being constantly updated.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:19 AM
Apr 2016

There is some very damning stuff in there. It's pretty ugly in tone and content.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
6. I disagree
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:16 AM
Apr 2016

His integrity is why people love and support him, it's why we trust him. I think fighting dirty would have hurt him, he'd be just be another disappointing politician. They are a dime a dozen.

As for the investigations, que sera, sera.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
9. I don't know why you are disagreeing. I also said it's why I love him.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:23 AM
Apr 2016

I am just bemusing that the party is now stuck with a candidate who has so much baggage -- Trump will have a blast with it all.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. If, gawd forbid, H loses and Trump wins
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:17 AM
Apr 2016

The resistance will mean that in 2018, congress will be owned by the D's.

And in 2020 so will the POTUS.

If Bernie wins, then the same scenario fits.

Gee, what to do?

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
15. I believe Trump WILL win over HRC
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:52 AM
Apr 2016

By the time he's done with her, she'll be begging to go be a grandma.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
21. Probably
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:08 AM
Apr 2016

That's why we need Bernie to win this election. Save ourselves and the country a whole lotta grief.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
10. As you know, it was never a choice.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:31 AM
Apr 2016

He was never going to go there.
It would have been very uncharacteristic of him, and he rarely does anything that's out of character. He couldn't have done better.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
16. I agree. He has been building his movement his whole life. This will be the
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:53 AM
Apr 2016

moment his ideas see real fruition. He did the party a YUGE favor by giving them a diversion from politics as usual, and he shows them the way forward. We couldn't have asked for a new direction at a better time, and he sure stuck a wrench in the Globalization movement. Might have reinvigorated labor to a small degree. We have to stick to the New Deal and expand on it. It is our party's legacy and it will remain so now.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
18. It'll be a favor only if the party comes to terms with the reality of the movement,
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:02 AM
Apr 2016

and desire for real change; if they don't, they're going to go extinct.
The DNC and the Clintons are a gigantic dinosaur that won't go away. The dinosaur's now kicking and screaming, stomping on the grassroots.

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