Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumYou think you love Bernie Sanders, now....THIS is the best yet, no one is going to take this stance
and that is exactly why this Sanderstorm is only beginning!
I'm all for pushing Bernie to talk more about downsizing the Pentagon to be an institution focused on actually defending the United States, as opposed to running around the world overthrowing other people's governments -- a Pentagon that "goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy," as President John Quincy Adams put it.
But we should also take advantage of the new opportunity that now presents itself; it's not only with bombs that U.S. foreign policy kills and injures innocent civilians.
We should recognize and publicize the fact that Bernie Sanders is the only presidential candidate who is talking about what the IMF is doing to Greece, the only presidential candidate who has a track record of opposing the IMF, the only presidential candidate who, if elected, is likely to do anything to end the economic violence of the IMF.
For more of this excellent article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/bernie-sanders-will-end-the-imfs-economic-violence-in-greece-and-africa_b_7723284.html
azmom
(5,208 posts)To get this man in the White House. Love it when he stated ,if a bank is too big to fail, it is too big to exist.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)our Bernie Sanders. He is the next FDR. There is NO DOUBT.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Around the world. The world is waking up.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)
Forgot who said that,but it is the truth.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)I had never seen it.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)hint hint
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)it might be a little too much truth for DU.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Never
mother earth
(6,002 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Jackson wasn't all bad.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)but he had no problem diverting US funds to the "vipers and thieves" running his "pet banks"
Stardust
(3,894 posts)version of YouTube that my device no longer supports. But when I enter the link into the correct version, I get all kinds of hits but am not sure which one you are referring to.
TIA
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)WDIM
(1,662 posts)Should be shut done! We allow the oligarchs to skim off the wealth of this nation. Everybody should see this video.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)The Bank of International Settlements is at the heart of their system.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)This is a great video, thank you for posting the link. Of course, trust but verify applies.
I hope everyone takes the time to view the video and share comments, including any dispute of the facts as presented.
erronis
(15,170 posts)Obviously Michael Rivero (producer/etc.) had a message to state about the monied caste being in control of almost all aspects of current civilization. It is a message that resonates with me and probably many/most of the readers.
I also think that this ignores plenty of other reasons for people to go to war (ethnic, religious, tribal), to lust after others land or goods. If I said that it ignores the megalomaniacs (Hitler, Stalin, Saddam, Alexander, Caesar) would I just be told that these individuals were front-men for the banksters?
This is also an external interpretation rather than an in-depth analysis of cause and effect without documentation to back up the extrapolations.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Kinda hard to take anything he says seriously after that
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I just linked to the video. It's strange how it almost always happens that someone starts out good but then veers off into strange territory. Just shows how pervasive and effective propaganda is. We should be ever vigilant.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)They're sometimes hard to spot!
Capt.Rocky300
(1,005 posts)"War is a racket." Gen. Smedley D. Butler
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)Why do we allow this shit to continue if all this known and has been shown.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)even though the elections are all rigged from here to September. Our representatives actually represent corporations. We the people tried and tried to stop the Vietnam War and finally managed to, only after some students at Kent State gave their lives. But bing-bang we go to war in Iraq like we forgot about Vietnam. So Democrats even joined the lying Bush and Cheney in order to kill innocent Iraqi's for the war profits.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)We are in the early stages, some haven't jumped in the race yet, there is no inevitable queen. You know what's inevitable? That the momentum is taking hold and enough, is being dammit, ENOUGH! Wait when TPP is unleashed as a campaign issue, people are now only beginning to wake up to what it actually is and that its coming...or is it? It is no done deal, just like the coronation, TSHTF and business as usual is no more.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)TIME.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)is my last hope for the country. Let it be!
mother earth
(6,002 posts)pocoloco
(3,180 posts)wimpfuck democrats!!
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)Smedly Butler is one of my heroes.
Notice my Avatar?
AngryDem001
(684 posts)"War is good for business".
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)mrmpa
(4,033 posts)quote by General Smedley Butler, USMC.
lsufan59
(22 posts)yep more like FDR with a littleHarry Truman too.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)did not grasp the full measure of this man's scope of experience, truth, all of it. There really is no equal measure to Bernie Sanders in this race, no man, no woman, no one is his equal when it comes to being the real deal. That's why he is drawing out everyone the disillusioned, the disenfranchised, independents, progressives, and hell yeah, even old school conservatives, he is reaching across the spectrum like no other.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)It's going to take all of us not buying into the MSM BS, WE frame this election. The time is NOW.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)when the Sequester was implemented and that was a very small cut to annual increases. It was not just Pentagon complaining. I think it has gone away now. It will take a lot of fortitude to cut a huge part of the DOD and many federal workers are Democratic voters as proven by northern Virginia. I like it but we need to really think it out on what to cut.
druidity33
(6,444 posts)anywhere else i can find this?
mother earth
(6,002 posts)stance. This seals the deal for me. It is so early!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)The IMF is not "over there." The IMF is headquartered in Washington, physically, politically and financially. A progressive economist once reported that he was at a seminar at the IMF, where a senior IMF official was indignant that people were saying that IMF is unaccountable. The IMF official demanded to know: why do people always accuse us of being unaccountable? We never do anything without checking with the U.S. Treasury Department!
Until now, unfortunately, Congressional Democrats have been largely content to let Treasury to run the show at the IMF without the input of real Democrats.
The IMF is now doing to Greece what the IMF has been doing to Africa since the 1980s and what the IMF did to South America until the progressive governments there kicked the IMF out. The IMF is a member of the "troika" of official creditors that have been making extreme austerity demands on the Greek government and are now openly demanding "regime change" in Greece before there can be any deal that ends the crisis in Greece that the troika has imposed.
(Some people complain that we shouldn't blame the IMF for what is being done to Greece; they say that some other institution or actor is more responsible. These people want us to play "accountability whack-a-mole" with the institutions. We need to hold the institutions "jointly and severally liable"; and the IMF is the bad actor in the troika for whom Americans have the most responsibility.)
Bernie Sanders is the only presidential candidate who is speaking out about this. In Congress, it's the progressive Democrats - including Sanders - who are speaking out about this.
Frankly there's a lot of good stuff at Huff Post.
Beartracks
(12,797 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)That the IMF uses Disaster Capitalism to create the problems and ultimately steal assets.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I am NOT kidding. He is talking some dangerous stuff. If he was still fringe, they would not bother. But I'm getting kind of nervous for him.
I hope he starts talking about the post office banking. That is another thing I think people would really go for. Get Warren to come to his events and talk about it. Oh yeah.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)need this man, that was my first reaction too. It's a sad thing when truth is dangerous, it tells you where we are headed and what we are on the precipice of.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Like Bobby Kennedy scared. Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't believe for a minute that those greedy bastards are going to release trillions of dollars from their pockets and that is exactly what a Bernie presidency means.
We should make a Bernie security gofundme page. Or maybe some of his vet supporters who work security now can be called upon to help at his appearances. If anybody knows how to suggest that, that would be a good idea. I am 100% positive that Bernie would reject that idea. And I'm sure, in the back of his mind, he has weighed the possibilities. HRC already has secret service. Bernie should too, especially because of our white terrorists.
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)and from speaking tours in S.C. and the South last year I believe. Perhaps a special post about the need for this and people's concern could be placed in the BS Group, to appeal to Vets, security and law enforcement people and others who have knowledge of campaigns. There must be people here with contacts or who are familiar with high profile campaigns that could be consulted about how to raise the issue or inquire of the appropriate officials.
It's a serious matter, esp. in these times and due to his ideas. This must have been brought up and considered, but to know that professional safety measures are in place would be reassuring to followers and the country. Out of concern and selfishness because we need him so much this absolutely must be put in place if it isn't already. I'd like to think it is. In any way I can I'll gladly help.
AikidoSoul
(2,150 posts)He needs security. How can we get him some excellent security?
I'm praying for a dream team of at least three dozen men and women who closely resemble the talents of many of the characters played by Wesley Snipes.
About the "TRUTH" -- two excellent quotes:
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.-- George Orwell
"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic" (Dresden James, Author)
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)We only pay for nominees. Can you imagine the costs of having security for all those GOP candidates. We'd use our yearly budget in no time.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)just that if "they" are planning on taking him out, it will be before the nomination.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)He will get security when he gets the nomination. You can't favor one over others.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Being a Minnesota native I remember what happened to Paul Wellstone.
A pilot friend of mine was flying Norm Coleman to the same destination on the same day at the same time. Her plane was less than ten miles away from Wellstone's at the time it went down. According to her there was absolutely no reason Wellstone's plane should have crashed, none, unless the pilot deliberately crashed or some outside force acted upon it. This isn't woo; it came from a very smart pilot who is no conspiracy theorist.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I think the Sanders group should talk about a way to contact the campaign. It may sound stupid, but it's worth it to be safe. These greedy motherfuckers don't play.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"It was like the plane was swatted out of the sky." She was pretty freaked out.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)and no small planes!
Anyone who talks about the IMF like that is going to make some very rich people very, very mad.
I DO like that he has the courage to say OUT LOUD what everybody already knows about the IMF.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I've been thinking this for some time now. You can't go around talking about how you're gonna shake things up and pull the rugs out from various evil entities and policies without causing worry - SERIOUS worry - amongst those who profit from their skullduggery. "Accidents" CAN Happen and WILL happen if you conveniently leave the door open for them.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)jalan48
(13,840 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)He's the champion of the people, by the people, for the people.
jalan48
(13,840 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)You are a bit new here, my friend, I suffer no centrism.
It's all good...Bernie is the absolute best!
jalan48
(13,840 posts)I hope Bernie can continue to get his message out.
MoreGOPoop
(417 posts)I love it! Deja vu fell heavy on me as I realized a whole lot of truth is
seeping out, lately- especially via Bernie. The truth rarely has safe harbor.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I was going to ad some quotes from it, but everybody needs to read the entire thing.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)starving to death...literally...It's the Troika...EU, ECB and IMF...greedy, cancerous, banksters, scum. Greece can't get out of it like the US did...print more money/bailout...they and much of Southern Europe are in the same condition. This could be a gamechanger.
Germany is the main European culprit...and that after Greece forgave them their WW2 debt.
Or you could call it just corporate money...that describes it and one can see who does and does not support that...which is the logical outcome of the above...we are a bit nicer calling it either the l% of .01%.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)That tells me all I needed to know. There is real fear there, not just of the treachery of the Troika, but of the Golden Dawn too. Same poison, you are right.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)and the EU for that matter are slaves to the US banking institutions. You can't blame people for the fear factor, sometimes it is real.
If the EU fails, Greece starts a wave of defections to include Spain, Wall Street, IMF and World Banks are in trouble.
Before we take down capitalism, don't we need a viable, well construction plan for a new paradigm? I've not seen anything yet.
Bitcoins is just a tax avoidance scheme, imo.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Interesting coincidence of nationality.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Never has this dark side been so dark, so secretive or so completely unethical.
We have to elect Bernie. It is imperative.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)faction as well. He is drawing from across the spectrum, come all ye disillusioned, disenfranchised, all those who truly seek an end to this stranglehold, this is no democracy, we are not going to accept this illusion, we want the real deal. It is time.
You are either a true patriot of a democracy, OR you are a blasphemy against democracy, we've been living for a very long time with a faction that poses as democracy, but undermines it for profit. We have true democrats in office, we know them by name, we know the DINOs & we damn well know what the far right extremists have imposed with their agenda driving oligarchy.
We are the USA, we demand a return to rule of law & our true democracy. United we stand.
azmom
(5,208 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)fact there were two Kennedys assassinated later. We know the world would be a different place had they lived.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Paka
(2,760 posts)We have to make sure he wins this race.