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choie

(4,107 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:23 AM Jun 2016

This is an honest question

Understandably, throughout this primary season, a lot has been made of Clinton possibly becoming the first woman presidential nominee. Why hasn't there been any ballyhoo about the possibility of Bernie being the first Jewish presidential nominee???? Not from Jewish groups -not from nobody. Why?

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This is an honest question (Original Post) choie Jun 2016 OP
For the same reason that Sanders refuses DaveT Jun 2016 #1
he knows better than to play the religion card is as tacky as playing the woman card Viva_La_Revolution Jun 2016 #2
Because it would be hypocritical Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #3
Bernie lives his life according to the teaching of the prophet Micah dragonlady Jun 2016 #7
The real significance of it that I see Bernin4U Jun 2016 #4
Thank you for understanding my questioni choie Jun 2016 #6
Sure. One wonders though. Bernin4U Jun 2016 #8
Bernie is not a Zionist - TBF Jun 2016 #5
exactly. Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #10
I posted it on GD-P many months ago and no one cared Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #9

DaveT

(687 posts)
1. For the same reason that Sanders refuses
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

to talk about those damned emails -- the campaign is on issues. not personality.

The Hillary Campaign is ALL about Hillary. So her gender is part of the total awesomeness that is Hllary Rodham Clinton. To Bernie and his supporters his Jewishness is a detail like his Astrological Sign or his choice between Coke or Pepsi.

This difference is one of many stark contrasts between two very different theories of politics.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
3. Because it would be hypocritical
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

Sanders has made it clear that he's not just a non-practicing Jew but a non-believing one; it's not clear whether he's an athiest, but he's clearly non-religious. Suddenly trumpeting his religious background would undercut the integrity of his candidacy in all sorys of ways.

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
7. Bernie lives his life according to the teaching of the prophet Micah
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jun 2016
It hath been told thee, O man, what is good, and what the LORD doth require of thee: only to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God. (Micah 6:8)


If everyone did this, we would have a much better world.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
4. The real significance of it that I see
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:03 AM
Jun 2016

Isn't so much the "I'm with the socialist Jewish carpenter" thing, as much as the fact that it shows we've finally moved beyond the, "We're a Cristian nation" thing.

This is the real progress, that it just doesn't matter.

So many of our forefathers weren't practicing Christians, and instead recognized the strength in diversity and inclusiveness. (Of course the still had the slave issue to reconcile.) But this business of "gotta be a church-going Chritian" seems to be a more modern construct, and it's great to see us get past that.

choie

(4,107 posts)
6. Thank you for understanding my questioni
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

I really was talking about how the country (and his supporters) perceives this Great Leap Forward - not why Bernie doesn't discuss it.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
8. Sure. One wonders though.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jun 2016

It could be argued that being the first woman is a much bigger deal than being the first Jew. Although as I say above, the bigger story there isn't so much what Bernie is (Jewish, practicing or not), as much as what he isn't (a practicing Christian). That should be a bigger deal, because while the first woman US president would of course be historic, there have certainly been plenty of female heads of state in western countries before. But how many non-Christians have there been?

But what I wonder is, if Bernie doesn't see the need to talk about it, then fine. But why does Hillary see so much need to get so in your face about it? Is it otherwise not obvious?

Plenty was (rightly) made about Obama being the first black president, but I don't remember him making an issue of it himself. Wouldn't he have looked a little ridiculous for him to point out regularly that he's black? Yet for HRH it's quite typical. Does she think we need a constant reminder?

It's like we constantly need to be reminded that Coke is "the real thing". Selling a product not on its merits, but on the constant repetition of emotional attachments.

TBF

(32,033 posts)
5. Bernie is not a Zionist -
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

he favors a 2 state solution. As a peace-loving Jew I applaud his views on the subject. And he knows what he is talking about - he lived on a kibbutz in Israel for awhile in the 60's and most of his father's family was wiped out by the Holocaust. Somehow, however, the big Jewish groups in America have stood behind Hillary. Perhaps they like her stance on wanting to "obliterate Iran".

Imo, Bernie's a mensch and he would make an amazing president.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
9. I posted it on GD-P many months ago and no one cared
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:13 PM
Jun 2016

it's odd. But, I guess Bernie doesn't really talk about it so...

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