Q: In its continuance, will Bernie Sanders Group be the center for discussing 'Our Revolution'?

[HereSince1628]

I'm mostly interested in the limits of what's going to be allowed.

[Autumn]

1. These are the rules for the GE

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10137292


Democratic Underground Terms of Service
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[HereSince1628]

2. I assume those apply in a general way to all groups

What I was really interested was whether the BERNIE SANDERS GROUP was going to go forward focusing on Sanders Movement.

The reason I'm wondering is that from the primary season it's fairly clear that the movement was a target of ridicule and hostility. Having the discussion within a protected group would shelter discussions from recreational trolling and other intentional disruption.

[Arazi]

3. My guess is once Bernie formally leaves the Dem party Skinner will close it down

Probably within minutes, if not seconds.

Bernie will no longer be a Dem and it will be an easy reason to shut this down

[HereSince1628]

4. I hadn't heard Sanders is leaving the party. Please share that link.

[Arazi]

5. As far as I can tell it's true

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/07/26/bernie-sanders-to-return-to-senate-as-an-independent/

[HereSince1628]

6. I hadn't seen that, but reading it, it appears to have a mixed message.

Why would he speak of what 'we' (first person plural) need many changes in the DNC, if he doesn't consider himself inside the party? Yet, it's true he positioned his stated 'independence' inside the democratic caucus.

I've always seen "the movement" as something that was based in the democratic party for practical reasons just as his candidacy was.

It's also important to his attempt to get followers to run for office. They need a party structure, just like Bernie did, to facilitate them moving through the mechanics of that process.

I'll just have to be patient and see how this plays out.

[Arazi]

7. I think he was initially going to stay Dem

But the DNC's crap changed his mind

[HereSince1628]

8. I think there may be some complicated nuance in this.

I'll need to hear more from Sanders.

Personally I think pissing on Dems would be detrimental to candidates under the banner of the movement. It would force the movement up against the same barriers that have held back the development of the greens in the US.

[merrily]

12. I don't think so. I think he would have stayed Dem if nominated or elected as a Dem, but he did not

get the nom. The leaves him reverting to the Senate, where he was elected as an Indie. He is not breaking trust with the people of Vermont who voted for him, any more than he broke trust after saying he would not run as a third party spoiler.

[Donkees]

9. This info was covered weeks ago in video interviews posted in this forum. Here is an ...

"ask the administrators" link concerning the question:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125911256

[HereSince1628]

10. I hadn't read that Sanders was disaffiliating the party I'm so sorry to have wasted bandwith

of your forum with a question about whether 'Our Revolution' was going to be discussed here.

I guess it won't be by me.


Again thanks and a thousand pardons for wasting your bandwidth

[Donkees]

13. "Vermont has nonpartisan registration. There is no option to affiliate with a political party...

on the voter registration form." Vermont has open primaries. Someone from Vermont could explain the affiliation situation better.

In essence Bernie filed FEC forms in order to run as a Democrat for president. He did say he would finish his term as the independent Vermont voters selected. Currently he is still working with the Democratic Party championing the progressive agenda.

[merrily]

11. What will be allowed is not determined by consensus of this group.

AFAIK, juries no longer know if a post is in a group or not, so "protected" groups are now no longer protected groups, just groups. You will be juried by the same standards that apply in the main forums.

The limits of what will be allowed, as always, depends on alerts, juries and, forbanning of a long-time poster or review of a flagged account, on an admin. IOW, it's anybody's guess and you take your chances.

The new TOS did say something specific about discussing Bernie in terms of what he was seeking from the Party.

I am sure we can praise Bernie, because he is supporting Hillary. I would steer clear of all criticism of Hillary.

If you have specific questions, Skinner is the one to ask.