Carson Would Beat Clinton, Biden, Sanders in Ohio, Pennsylvania: Poll

[merrily]

No president has won the general election since 1960 without carrying two out of those three swing states.
Arit John


October 7, 2015 — 6:00 AM EDT


Hillary Clinton is still leading the Democratic presidential primary in three key swing states—Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania—but a new poll suggests she may have more to worry about than whether Vice President Joe Biden enters the race: Neurosurgeon Ben Carson could potentially pose a threat to the entire Democratic field.

If the election were held today and Carson were the Republican nominee, he would beat Clinton, Biden, and Senator Bernie Sanders in the battleground states of Ohio and Pennsylvania and also best Sanders, a Vermont independent, in Florida, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.1 No president has won the general election since 1960 without carrying two out of those three swing states.

In Ohio, Carson would defeat Biden by 4 percentage points (46 percent to 42 percent), Clinton by 9 points (49 percent to 40 percent) and Sanders by 12 points (48 percent to 36 percent), according to the poll. In Pennsylvania, the retired neurosurgeon would beat Clinton by 9 points (49 percent to 40 percent) and Sanders by 10 points (47 percent to 37 percent). While Biden, who was born in Pennsylvania, is often called the state's third senator, Carson would best him by 5 points there, 47 percent to 42 percent, according to the poll. In Florida, Carson would defeat Sanders 46 percent to 40 percent, but trails Biden by a margin of 45 percent to 42 percent, and Clinton by 45 to 42 percent.

The poll is the latest evidence that the political outsider is on an upswing, at least for now. Carson enjoyed a rise in the polls following the first Republican primary debate in August and raised $20 million during the third quarter. His primary numbers are not quite as encouraging. He still trails billionaire Donald Trump by a margin of 28 percent to 16 percent in Florida, by 23 percent to 18 percent in Ohio, and by 23 percent to 17 percent in Pennsylvania, but is the stronger of the two men against the top Democrats.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-07/ben-carson-would-beat-hillary-clinton-joe-biden-and-bernie-sanders-in-ohio-pennsylvania-poll-ifgmjeg1

As I have been posting for months, it is too early to take polls seriously. If we took them seriously a few weeks ago--and some DUers did--Trump would be preparing for inauguration. Now, it's Carson. Let me remind you that, at the beginning of the election year of 2012, polls showed Pres. Obama losing to every single Republican in the clown car and Mr. Generic Republican. And we are not even at the beginning of an election year yet.

Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and doing whatever you can think of to do to help Sanders. Donate, volunteer, help spread the word. Sanders has proven that he, too, will do his part and then some.

Meanwhile, I am confident that it will dawn on voters at some point that a brain surgeon does not have the experience, domestic or foreign, to run the country. Even Joe Scarborough was laughing (bitterly, but laughing) at the prospect of Carson's being President.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. he's a stark, raving loon.

And he is ahead of trump?

[Faux pas]

2. He's a soft spoken loon

it takes some time for people to realize what he's babbling about.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. Thanks. You have it right.

[Faux pas]

10. Thank you

for recognizing that. lol

[merrily]

8. LOL!

[merrily]

4. Similar things happened in 2012. Perry led the polls at one point. So did Herman 999

Cain. Heck even frothy substance was doing okay at one point.

With one candidate after another, Republicans realized that their new shiny thing was not Presidential quality. So, they settled on Mitt, who "somehow" got recorded at a fundraiser dumping on veterans and seniors at takers and lauding the China model, where fencing on roofs keeps workers from committing suicide.

To borrow a saying from across the pond, keep calm and carry on.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

5. Thanks to the late Dem debates

and the "MSM" TV blackout, I'm guessing Bernie has even less name recognition than Carson at this point. Just another indication of the sorry state of our former republic. A vote for Bernie is a vote against oligarchy.

[questionseverything]

11. yes looking at the crosstabs for florida

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ps/sfl10072015_crosstabs_S73fgbv.pdf

bernie still has 34% of the polled electorate that doesnt know about him yet

he does lose 14% of the black vote to carson as compared to running against bush but i am pretty confident carson will not be the repub nominee

all and all a pretty good showing since he has not really campaigned there yet

[n2doc]

6. Not if the campaign was really on

Carson would fold like a cheap suit under the bright lights of debate. There aren't enough deranged pennsyltuckians to give him the state.

[merrily]

9. I have a feeling Rendell will make sure Hillary gets it, or die trying.

[corkhead]

7. As soon as people find out he thinks the world is 6000 years old

he will end up in the dustbin of history.

I'm not worried.

[Robbins]

12. reality

Carson will not win nomination.neither will rubio. The racists in GOP will never vote for a black or hispanic for president. senator or governor is different story. If Trumps falters my money is on Fiornia.

Bernie is still unknown to many people thanks to DWS and MSM.

[merrily]

13. Fiorina or Bush. (Yes, I still think Dimmest Son has a shot.)

[Robbins]

14. while i may be wrong

I think even republicans don't want bush.

[Capt.Rocky300]

15. Carson was on "The View" yesterday....

The man is clueless about so many things.