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zazen

(2,978 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:55 AM Oct 2015

why can't we demand all Dem candidates reject super PAC money during primary?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251749138

Please see my poll here in GD . We have to include O'Malley here because he's still a candidate.

I'm sick of Sanders and his supporters always being on the defensive about some ridiculous invention on their part. It's time she and her supporters have to defend their real decisions, now.

Our opponents are shifting the focus of our movement--ending profound economic injustice due to deep international and national financial and political corruption--to one manufactured, petty outrage after another. We need to remind people over and over again of the reality of this candidate by making her and her supporters explain themselves.

I understand the argument that rejecting super PAC money in the general election may be too risky if we're running against a nascent fascist (and that's half the Republican slate right now).

But if Clinton is serious and HONEST about her commitment to financial and political reform, then she should be willing to suffer with the rest of the candidates to show her sincerity.

Why not give back super PAC money now? Why not at least suspend it for the duration of the primary? Why not? Ask it over and over and over again.

Please show the poll some love and/or advance this question.

Hillary, why can't you suspend your super PACs during the primary?
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why can't we demand all Dem candidates reject super PAC money during primary? (Original Post) zazen Oct 2015 OP
She could, but she won't Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #1
She, like everyone else SmittynMo Oct 2015 #2
Technically none of them accept superpac money or "have" superpacs. At least that's my Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #3
Yes, candidates are "forbidden from coordinating" with a Super-PAC ... wink-nod, wind-nod 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #4
yes, yes, yes, yes--her campaign/supporters need to be challenged on this specifically zazen Oct 2015 #5
Yep. It only took Hillary 10 DAYS to parrot Bernie on Exxon... 10-DAYS!! 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #6

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
2. She, like everyone else
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

will take FULL advantage of the law. Thank you Supreme Court. The answer is to reject CU. And no one wants to do that but Bernie.

So, let's put his ass in there and get it done.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
3. Technically none of them accept superpac money or "have" superpacs. At least that's my
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:27 PM
Oct 2015

understanding. The superpac is a separate entity with which candidates are forbidden from coordinating. But I take your point well and think they should all roundly reject them.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
4. Yes, candidates are "forbidden from coordinating" with a Super-PAC ... wink-nod, wind-nod
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:14 PM
Oct 2015

but everyone knows it goes on anyway, and pretty much everyone looks the other way,
pretending not to notice.

I REALLY want Bernie or his campaign (or SOMEone) to make noise about how Hillary's huge
Wall St./MIC/Pharma corporate donors, stand in stark contrast to her campaign promises to
"get tough" with Wall St., etc. So far she's totally getting away with pulling this wool over
most voters' eyes, as the clever little 11-minute video below clearly demonstrates.

So far, 99% of voters remain TOTALLY clueless about how Hillary has been bought by big money
interests, and when they find out what's really going on, they are stunned ... saying "Really??" ..
"OMG! I had no idea" .. "you've got to be kidding me?". Check it out.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
5. yes, yes, yes, yes--her campaign/supporters need to be challenged on this specifically
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:01 PM
Oct 2015

If officially refusing super PAC money is moot--which I don't understand, since some have already run pro-Hilary ads, right?--then we need some way of challenging her to take a specific action and then documenting that she is not.

Otherwise, she keeps parroting whatever policy position Bernie has as a way of countering him and because we have no way of forcing her to back it up with action, now, she's getting away with it.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. Yep. It only took Hillary 10 DAYS to parrot Bernie on Exxon... 10-DAYS!!
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:36 PM
Oct 2015

On Oct 20th, Bernie called for a Federal inquiry about Exxon lying to the public for 30 years about climate change,
then on Oct 30th Hillary trumpeted "BREAKING NEWS! ... " simply saying the same thing, without mentioning
Bernie of course.

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