Bernie Calls for Fed. Probe on Exxon, 10-DAYS later, Hillary Parrots Bernie & Makes a Big Splash????

[99th_Monkey]

This just floors me, how Hillary gets away with making a big show of mimicking Bernie's positions on issues,
right down the line, like clockwork .. while claiming she's 'leading the way for America".

° Holding Wall St. accountable? check. (telling them to "cut it out!", while happily taking their donations)
° Favors Overturning Citizens United? check. (yet she has Super-PAC $$$ coming out her ears & brags about it)
° Opposes Keystone? check. (she favored it, before she opposed it.)
° Opposes TPP? check. (she favored it as a "gold standard" before she opposed it)
° Opposes private prison industry? check. (yet she has private prison lobbyists running her super-Pac?)
° (did I miss anything ^ here?)

So fast-forward to October 20thh,
Bernie calls for a Federal criminal investigation of ExxonMobil:
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/20/bernie-sanders-takes-big-oil-calling-criminal-investigation-exxonmobil.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/20/1436133/-Senator-Bernie-Sanders-calls-for-DOJ-task-force-on-what-ExxonKnew

Then 10 short days later, on October 30th, there's breathless BREAKING NEWS! that Hillary says the same damn thing, with nary a mention that Bernie had called for this just 10-days ago (unless it's pointed out by reporters):
BREAKING: Hillary Clinton Endorses Federal Investigation Of Exxon
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/10/29/3717602/clinton-investigate-exxon/

Fortunately, i am not the only one to notice this, and was gratified to see that Andy Borowitz also took note:
Hillary Expected to Adopt All of Sanders’s Positions by Noon
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/hillary-expected-to-adopt-all-of-sanderss-positions-by-noon

It's also worth noting, that ExxonMobil, just over one month ago, cut off it's sizable pipeline of cash to
the Clinton Foundation. Surely just a coincidence, but note-worthy nevertheless.
Election 2016: Hillary Clinton Demands Probe of Exxon After Oil Giant Stops Funding Clinton Foundation
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/election-2016-hillary-clinton-demands-probe-exxon-after-oil-giant-stops-funding

So I must ask the question: Could it be any clearer which candidate is demonstrating real leadership, based on the courage of their convictions; and which candidate is following along, giving lip-service to Bernie's positions --ones she knows are popular with voters-- while claiming to be "the real leader" who will "get things done"?

At the next debate, I fully expect Hillary to wear a T-shirt, saying:

"<--Whatever Bernie Said"

[rhett o rick]

1. Well we expect Sen Sanders to stand up to the big corporations but not HRC.

That's the reason for the big to-do. People wondering what she is up to.

[99th_Monkey]

5. But hardly anyone is really calling her out on it, except Andy Borowitz, bless his heart. nt

Hillary Expected to Adopt All of Sanders’s Positions by Noon
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/hillary-expected-to-adopt-all-of-sanderss-positions-by-noon

[rhett o rick]

39. Mr. Borowitz is of course joking us. Even if she moves toward Sander's positions, she just can't

quite commit fully. There will always be wiggle room.

[99th_Monkey]

46. "at this time.. " "I'm open to ... " "Well, I might consider... "

"based on current information ... "

There's always room in Hillary Land for wiggle, not to mention wobble, wangle and waffle.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN :

[rhett o rick]

57. And HAPPY HALLOWEEN back at you. We had 5 kids come to the door. Three were in jr high. nm

[Art_from_Ark]

67. And then there's "I would not prefer..."

Mushy talk certainly does leave lots of wiggle room.

[rhett o rick]

2. Oh oh, time for another letter from the Third Way for her to straighten up. nm

[Baitball Blogger]

3. That is some seriously magical triangulation strategy for Hillary.

Co-opting the extreme left agenda AND the extreme right, at the same time.

Damn. She would do well in sales.

[Rebkeh]

18. I think that's a

Karl Rove tactic.

[arcane1]

4. This is solid proof that his ideas are more popular than her "ideas".

Otherwise, she wouldn't steal them

[99th_Monkey]

7. True dat. She should give that $1 million to Bernie, instead of to her polling services.

He's earned it.

[Doctor_J]

13. And that her support is based far more on personality and her gender than her politics or ideas

[i-should- be-working]

22. bingo!

It's also about public versus private views about how a sane person reacts to something as revolting as Esso's behavior. I for one am tired of the coded language the press loves to dissect, I mean really ... endorse? Bernie says what "is" is (smirk), straight out, with legislation in several cases. In this case his reaction is to indict.

[Demeter]

23. If she's betting on personality, she'll lose for sure.

Bernie's got personality. Hillary's got bupkis.

[i-should- be-working]

32. it's more about celebrity than personality

The corporates turned the masses into know nothings ... look at the Donald for instance, pure self acclaimed celebrity.

This is really shaping up as a cultural war, with different world views as outcomes. I have many doubts that HRC has the courage that's clearly going to be needed to wage an effective climate change agenda over the next 8 determinative years. Sanders has a kind of courage of a certain man in a wheechair showed is necessary to stand up to the banks. At least he had Butler's plot to bargain with!

And maybe the worst thing is that hillary will be unimpeachable so craven decisions will get a pass. Her apparent ascension looks bad for our species' survival.

[AlbertCat]

41. If she's betting on personality

She's betting on the Clinton™ name recognition.



Well it does prove one thing (we already knew of course)

Bill was a much much better prez than Bush, because the Bush™ name brand isn't helping you know who.... at all....

[wendylaroux]

29. personality?

as if.

[840high]

48. Correct.

[cui bono]

55. And corporatist/centrist policies. They don't care what she says during the campaign.

They know she will go centrist just like her husband did. BC ran a progressive campaign and then governed as a centrist.

[LiberalElite]

6. This reminds me of a co-op election meeting

where one of the candidates repeatedly answered a question to all candidates: "I agree with them" I thought fine, I'll vote for one of them.

[Fairgo]

8. Not stealing...

...just borrowing. We'll get them back after the election with nary a scratch or other sign of wear.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. +1

[mindwalker_i]

10. Truer words...

The people who "believe in" Hillary will make some stupid excuse.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. If they do they have no shame.

[DJ13]

17. They will

and they dont.

[turbinetree]

11. K&R + 1 more

Honk--------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[Duval]

35. Honk Honk!!

We're ready!

[stupidicus]

12. she's practically a Bernie puppet

too bad he can't get her to say "I quit.".

[JimDandy]

20. Because Bernie doesn't control the puppet. Others do. n/t

[JDPriestly]

15. Vote. For Bernie. Put a leader in the White House.

[Divernan]

63. What a difference her $1,200 cut & dye job makes!

So $600 for the cut & blow dry; $600 for the dye job; 20% tip adds up to $1440. And I'll bet cash money she got a mani-pedi & eyebrow shaping/tinting as well.

http://cleburnepress.com/2015/07/30/hillary-clinton-closed-part-of-bergdorf-goodman-in-new-york-for-600-haircut-daily-mail-online/

Hillary Clinton closed part of Bergdorf Goodman in New York for $600 haircut | Daily Mail Online

Part of Bergdorf Goodman on Fifth Avenue was put out of action on Friday
Would-be Democratic presidential nominee arrived with large entourage
Entered by side entrance before heading for exclusive John Barrett salon
Entire elevator bank shut down so Clinton could see regular hairdresser privately

Headline: Hillary Clinton closed part of a swanky New York department store so she could have a $600 haircut.

The article reports that a cut & blow dry at the John Barrett salon costs $600 and getting your hair colored can cost as much again. It also points out it is not known whether she actually paid for services, and if so, how much. If money did change hands, was it a "campaign cost"?

Part of Bergdorf Goodman on Fifth Avenue was put out of action on Friday while the would-be Democratic presidential nominee arrived with her large entourage. The former Secretary of State and her group were seen entering the building by a side entrance before heading for the exclusive John Barrett salon, according to the New York Post.

The salon is on the ninth floor of the department store. A source told the paper: ‘Staff closed off one side of Bergdorf’s so Hillary could come in privately to get her hair done.’ An elevator bank was shut down so she could ride up alone, and then she was styled in a private area of the salon. The store has four elevators close to the 58th Street exit that go to the salon. ‘Other customers didn’t get a glimpse.

Clinton is a regular client.

Editor’s Questions: Does Hillary feel the pain of the unemployed and the under employed? Does she understand that approximately half of all graduating collage seniors can’t find employment in the field they have their major? What has Hillary promised to do to bring jobs back onshore from China and other American job killing nations?

My comment: Well, thank god that none of the salon's other wealthy clients were able to sneak a FREE iphone snap of Hillary and avoid the $2700 "donation" required to have a picture taken with her at one of her "Conversations with Hillary" gated-estate soirees. I hope she actually paid from her personal wealth for her cut & dye job. But since the whole salon was closed down for serveral hours, who made up the difference in income for all the other salon stylists/shampoo givers/manicurists/masseuses, etc.?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barrett_%28salon%29

[JimDandy]

19. Clinton is a follower. What's scary is Bush was too and he got elected.

We can't afford any more followers who are lead around by other's conviction.

Bernie is a man of conviction. People know where he stands...and they like where he stands, because he stands with them. People can feel it...it's palpable.

[i-should- be-working]

24. Clinton is a crisis manager type, Bernie is a leader, ideas kind of candidate

[AlbertCat]

42. and he got elected.

Not really.


Not even in 2004

[Rebkeh]

21. Any video/meme wiz kids out there?

Demonstrate the "me too" strategy by video or meme. Make a compare/contrast of the same positions by date. The older the picture of Bernie (the younger he looks), the better. Keep it in comparison of dates only, "just the facts." But do it without attacking her personally, only the positions/issues. Otherwise the whole thing would be worthless and reflect badly on Bernie and his clean campaign.

[SoapBox]

26. Well...

There are these.

http://www.berniesandersvideo.com/hillary-clinton.html

Personally, I love the flip flop one.

[AlbertCat]

43. Oh man!

That 1st video about her accomplishments as SofS is killer!





Hillary has the last name Clinton, and that's about it.

[cantbeserious]

25. HRC - The Parrot

[tex-wyo-dem]

27. ^^^ THIS ^^^

It's called Hillpocracy (TM), dontcha know...

All for the votes.

If she gets elected, every one of those positions will be thrown out like yesterday's trash.

[Orsino]

28. The medium is the message.

Clinton is terrifically popular, and more people listen when she speaks, not least because more cameras are pointed at her. Voters are not easily going to give up on the familiar and beloved brand, no matter how often Sanders says the right things for our times. In the eyes of many, Clinton will get credit for inventing ideas that she is merely coopting. Or pretending to coopt.

It's that "electability" thing. It's not made up; Bernie's was always going to be a long struggle toward the forefront of voter's minds. I think he'll continue to do very well, but the force of habit (and fucktons of money) will be pulling the lever for the Clinton brand. For now, I'm pleased that he is making her a better candidate.

[99th_Monkey]

31. Speaking of being a ditto-head. I agree with you, AND ...

I also agree with what tex-wyo-dem said above:
"If she gets elected, every one of those positions will be thrown out like yesterday's trash."

[Orsino]

33. Clinton is saying a lot of the right things...

...but the identities and agendas of her big donors speak louder.

[smokey nj]

36. I think you're in the wrong group.

.

[AlbertCat]

44. I think you're in the wrong group.

No.

Orsino expressed the "problem" Sanders folks have to deal with very succinctly. We're not here to just fawn and dote on Sanders, like some other candidates' group.


At this point....whatever happens in the primary, Sanders has moved the conversation.... to the left! It's already a huge achievement!... changing the zeitgeist!

Go Sanders!

[smokey nj]

45. He's perpetuating the myth that any shift to the left is substantive.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Hillary's left-leaning rhetoric is nothing but lip service.

[dreamnightwind]

30. The chameleon

To her and her staff, it's all about constantly tweaking "the brand".

It's why I don't believe for a second that there's any value in pulling her to the left. Positions are taken when convenient and discaded when not.

If she wins, we'll rarely if ever see her take on any powerful interest.

[MrMickeysMom]

34. Copycat?

[raindaddy]

37. When the media in this country has been consolidated in the hands......

Of the very people who will benefit from a Hillary presidency what else would we expect?

They're terrified of a Sanders Presidency and will make sure it doesn't happen...

[Samantha]

38. Income Inequality

When I first heard her jump on this, I knew immediately she was going to try to usurp Bernie's platform. It is a common political maneuver.

But now, there have been just so many planks of Bernie's she has purloined, it is embarrassing. This is I believe the fourth time I have responded to threads on this subject recently. Does the Clinton campaign have no shame?

Sam

[99th_Monkey]

49. Snap!! I totally forgot about income inequality ... I think that may have been her first one too

which led into her "I told Wall St. to cut it out!" comment at the debate.

Thanks for the addition.

[Samantha]

60. I thought that was a huge mistake on her part

If she wanted to usurp the idea, she could have at least bothered to change the wording so it wouldn't be so obvious what she was doing.

In all honesty, I think Hillary has some really, really bad advisers.

Sam

[AlbertCat]

40. Bernie has already won!

(How's that for reversing the campaign ideas?)

Clinton will be a pale imitation of Sanders by the time the primaries come around at this rate.

And if she wins because of her name recognition, she'll probably forget all these things she only recently cared about. Maybe not, but y'know....when the donation favors she owes are called in....

But clearly, no matter what happens, it's Sanders that has changed the conversation and started pulling the liberals back to being liberal.

[Mark Grable]

50. Hey, that's pretty good!

Here's another you might like:

Most Democrats, and most Republicans, are really Independents!

They just never knew about Bernie!

They just never knew they had a real choice!

[840high]

47. This says it all -

It's also worth noting, that ExxonMobil, just over one month ago, cut off it's sizable pipeline of cash to
the Clinton Foundation. Surely just a coincidence, but note-worthy nevertheless.
Election 2016: Hillary Clinton Demands Probe of Exxon After Oil Giant Stops Funding Clinton Foundation

[IHateTheGOP]

51. Keep it up and you'll allow a republican to pick 2 supreme court justices Waldo.

[smokey nj]

52. Yeah, how dare we support someone besides Hillary.

[99th_Monkey]

54. The nerve!! nt

[99th_Monkey]

53. So real Primary elections must be passé in your perfect world?

a charade to delude the rubes & little people into thinking they still have a democracy?

How in the world do we have legitimate primary elections when ONE "presumptive, inevitable"
candidate insists that all the other candidates tie one hand behind their back, never-ever taking
issue with the "anointed one", even when she's duplicitous & funded by the Oligarchy she says
she's going to "get tough" with, or they'll be guilty of "allowing a republican to pick 2 supreme
court justices".

Did I get that right?

[SoapBox]

56. Oh please...

I remain wholly convinced that if she were to be the nominee, that she will lose.

There is a very deep hatred of her...I think the lemmings would vote for any of the PukeBaggers before they would even think about voting for her.

[Fuddnik]

58. Keep nominating assholes like Hillary, and you DESERVE President Ted Cruz.

I want a difference maker. Somebody who actually stands for me. It sure ain't "more of the same neo-liberal bullshit Clinton stands for".

[L0oniX]

69. Yes keep pushing for Hillary and your kind will get us a repuke for POTUS.

[Doctor_J]

74. keep threatening liberals are YOU will be letting a republican do the picking

[CoffeeCat]

59. And the saddest part about all of this...

...is that this is just Hillary trying to win the game. She's trying to eclipse Bernie by holding the same stances. However, she doesn't mean any of it.

She'll say whatever, to get the Democratic nomination.

However, when she is President--she'll be the same corporatist, warmongering shill that she's always been--and she'll have even more contempt for the Progressives in her party who tried to challenge her coronation.

She cannot be our nominee. She's a nightmare.

[LiberalLovinLug]

61. priceless

You nailed it.
Bernie may be still somewhat of an unknown to some, compared to Hillary. But for gawds sakes people, haven't you heard enough to realize this one chance at grabbing the ring? For a candidate that, by all historical example, will stand true to his primary promises if elected President. A democratic socialist whose positions are closer to traditional Democratic party values than to the disintegrating DLC. Things like free college, taxing the 1%, medicare for all, those things ring loud across party lines for the average struggling citizen.
But I predict some TMZ type scandal to evolve in the MSM if Bernie ever actually does "Obama" Hillary.

But as long as its understood how we all see through all that then its possible to still succeed.

[jfern]

62. She'll pretend to give a shit about this crap until she wins the primary

Then she'll stop pretending that she's not 100% Third Way.

[BeanMusical]

64. ...

[marym625]

65. #HillarysSoBernie!

K&R!

[EndElectoral]

66. If it looks like a parrot and talks like a parrot...

[L0oniX]

68. One person leads and the other person follows.

[avaistheone1]

70. Perhaps Hillary should be running for Vice-President

given she is riding on Bernie's coat tails.

She could be his under study.

[99th_Monkey]

73. If i were President Sanders, I don't think I'd want Hillary "having my back" -nt-

[DiehardLiberal]

71. Add his line about 'Repub Amnesia' about 9/11 to the HRC parrot list. Has she no shame? Or original

ideas? Probably not ideas as she is for whatever will get her elected...

And I had planned to support her. But someone better came along: Bernie Sanders. He actually believes what he says!

[kacekwl]

72. Anything to win the primary

after that it's we'll see. Been there done that. Please don't get fooled again.