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SandersDem

(592 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:08 AM Nov 2015

Do not bite on this spin...

"They all did well."

They didn't. OMalley and Sanders did. HRC was not good, not....at...all.

Watch Bernie get a bump in SC. OMalley may also. Expect HRC to remain in the lead, but for the race to tighten a bit.

Smelling spin when it stinks.

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Do not bite on this spin... (Original Post) SandersDem Nov 2015 OP
agreed roguevalley Nov 2015 #1
Didn't see it, but bvf Nov 2015 #2
And she did it again SmittynMo Nov 2015 #9
I saw Bernie and Hillary. Bernie was very good. Hillary not as good. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #3
I agree. in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #4
Clinton may not have really shone, but compared to the Repukes she came across as an adult. eridani Nov 2015 #5
Which is important because? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #10
I am not trying to say we shouldn't fight hard for what we really want eridani Nov 2015 #13
We saw what happened after the first debate. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #6
That must explain the reek in GD-P! MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #7
What was this? I thought the debate was Nov. 14th? Demeter Nov 2015 #8
Democratic Party Presidential Forum 11/06/2015 leftcoastmountains Nov 2015 #12
Bernie was the superior one. azmom Nov 2015 #11
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
2. Didn't see it, but
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:21 AM
Nov 2015

it doesn't surprise me.

Clinton is great at making declarative statements without actually declaring anything.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
9. And she did it again
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:45 AM
Nov 2015

She doubled down on her statement about "cut it out" regarding wall street. And how did that work out for her at the time?

Bernie nailed it, AGAIN, with more clarity and some humor. Hillary got better at spreading fluff.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
4. I agree.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:39 AM
Nov 2015

O'Malley did fine, except for the requisite Bernie jabs. Bernie killed it. Hillary? Just Hillary - same spin, just a different day and very boring.

I didn't notice much applause for Hillary either.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
5. Clinton may not have really shone, but compared to the Repukes she came across as an adult.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 06:24 AM
Nov 2015

This is a very important distinction to draw between their debates and ours. Tonight and the previous debate pretty much shout "Want to work on actual problems? Come over to this side."

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
10. Which is important because?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:56 PM
Nov 2015

HRC fans love to remind us how she's better than the repubs.

So maybe the repubs should campaign on the idea that they're better than the Nazis or the Soviets?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
13. I am not trying to say we shouldn't fight hard for what we really want
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:38 PM
Nov 2015

But third parties can't win nationally, so if we can't get Sanders the nomination, we have to keep up the fight anyway. Sanders will put our car in Drive, but if we can't get that, Neutral with Clinton is still better than hard Reverse with any Republican. If the car is in Neutral, a mass movement can still push it forward.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
6. We saw what happened after the first debate.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 08:24 AM
Nov 2015

As long as the media TELLS everyone that Hillary did well, many of the people who didn't watch the forum will 'know' that she did well, and will be swayed to feel that much more positive towards her, and she'll get a bump in the polls. Then, the media will use that bump in the polls as 'proof' that she did well.

I'd say 'and so on, ad nauseum', but really we reach that point already.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
7. That must explain the reek in GD-P!
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 09:54 AM
Nov 2015

If I said what I really think about these posters, I'd be hushed, for sure...

I will try to catch the re-play to see for myself.

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