Compare and Contrast: Hillary Group vs Bernie Group

[Proserpina]

I looked down the first page of the sheltered workshop, er, group for Hillary fanatics, and the maximum number of recs was 50, on one solitary posting. If I cared enough, I could calculate the average, but I estimate it by sight to be 20 per OP, at best, over the entire past week.

Look at the first page of Bernie's group, and you see multiple posts racking up multiple hundreds of recs. A rough estimate: an average of 30, a max of 274 recs over a span of less than 4 days.

It could very well be that too much too fast is posted, escaping notice, or that some posts are just too limited to draw much attention....so if we took anything over 20, say, we'd have racked up an average of 64 recs on 35 well-subscribed threads. Minimum of 20 recs, max of 274.

And yet, the Hillary group sees fit to harass, intimidate, block, ban and tombstone (on the most specious of reasons or no reason at all) people who post stuff that reflects badly on Hillary (stuff otherwise known as unvarnished truth without spin). AND the Administrators see fit to ignore what is going on. Dollars count more, doncha know?


(See Mom, I am learning something from the statistics class...)

[LiberalArkie]

1. And yes statistics are fun.

[MerryBlooms]

2. Jury results:

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:09 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Compare and Contrast: Hillary Group vs Bernie Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128079515

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Hey Bernie Group, perhaps you should rein in this person who appears to be a troll. I'd challenge their troll like claims, but you blocked me for suggesting Bernie not run against Obama.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:14 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hey alert troll, this is a protected group. You were obviously banned for good reason. Stay the fuck out and your fee-fees won't get hurt.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: lame alert.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Proserpina]

3. OMG FFS what is wrong with these people?

Mother warned me, but I didn't believe her...

Thanks for the info, MerryBlooms! And thank you, jurors, for the support.

Feel the Bern!

[Live and Learn]

16. Yep, that side is quite touchy these days.

One can even get a hide for quoting them, It is very interesting.

[MerryBlooms]

30. y/w :)

Welcome to DU!

[nc4bo]

4. Itchy trigger fingers strike again and again and again.

Why stalky here if you no likey here

I don't get it.

[senz]

39. There is a need to vent hostility and aggression.

It relieves pain and makes life more livable.

(Unless one is SOS or, heaven forbid, POTUS. Then it takes life away by the tens of thousands.)

And so they must seek out victims.

[cui bono]

5. What a hostile alert.

Must be a Clinton Caver projecting about trolls.

[corkhead]

6. Wow, i would alert on this alert if i could

[Live and Learn]

18. It would be nice if there were limits on the number of alerts one could make.

I have never even made one.

[Turn CO Blue]

27. I alerted one time in ten years. ONE TIME. n/t

[MissDeeds]

12. And didn't we see this coming

Anything that is remotely unflattering to HRH or her supporters gets an alert. Good to see juries are not tolerating this nonsense.

[roguevalley]

15. voter 6 is my hero

I believe the owners are Hillary fans. Explains a lot

[Fawke Em]

17. They must be very scared.

Wonder what the internal polling is telling their candidate?

[senz]

40. I was impressed by the speed with which she

accepted Bernie's apology and wanted to put it all behind her.

[mindwalker_i]

21. Now that's a shelacking!

Or in more modern terminology, an ass-kicking. It seems very much that the knot of hard-core Hillary supporters are desperately trying to maintain their "reality" through any means. It's very similar to religious fanatics finding "proof" in everything (including toast) to support their beliefs in their invisible friend.

[senz]

41. Exactly.

They do not want to see her as she is and will attack anyone who dares to lift the curtain even a little.

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. #6, I think I love you!

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[retrowire]

7. And then...

How many of their groups posts are anti bernie, compared to ours?

The majority of our posts are pro Bernie. there are few anti Hillary posts.

But over there, the majority are anti Bernie, with fewer pro Hillary posts.

They don't have alot of positive things to say about their candidate I guess.

[Doctor_J]

8. And they have their own new site

The only way for people who are resoundingly defeated on the issues is to take over the means of communication. That's why the far right has cable "news" and all of the radio comandeered, and that's why the hillarians alert so many posts and start their own sheltered echo chamber.

[hifiguy]

9. That group, and another from which many of its members spring

are policed with an intensity and thoroughness that the Stasi would have envied.

[Hydra]

10. They've always been a loud minority here

And highly disruptive in a way that hurts their candidate.

I used to like having them here though- they get their talking points straight from Hillary's strategists, so I'd always know what the meme this week would be in the MSM. Now it's just repeated noises over and over again.

I don't know why some of them get so many forced vacations and are allowed to come back. There are no honest mistakes being made there.

[Live and Learn]

19. Exactly. nt

[WillyT]

11. K & R !!!

[Marty McGraw]

13. All The Names Here

Are being laboriously scratched into the Cave wall and sealed & cursed with demonic other-worldly oil right about now

[Live and Learn]

20. No doubt.

[MissDeeds]

14. K&R

[bvf]

22. Interesting.

It's also enlightening to compare the number of blocked members vs. subscribers for both groups.

The HRC group actually has more blocked members than subscribers, with 291 and 241 respectively.

The Sanders group? 172 blocked members vs. 761 subscribers.

If there ever were any question about where the thin-skinned congregate (apart from their little time-out sandbox away from DU, I mean), these numbers provide a good indication.

[DashOneBravo]

23. You got alerted on.

1-6 to leave it.

[SoapBox]

24. OMG...

They just don't stop!

I'm glad we refuse to be silenced.

Go Bernie!

Go BERNERS!

[DashOneBravo]

26. I thought for sure it would be 0-7

[bvf]

28. Naturally.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[DashOneBravo]

33. You are welcome

[kath]

31. Wow. could you post the jury results here, please?

What a ridiculous alert.

[DashOneBravo]

32. My pleasure ma'am

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:45 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Interesting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=79577

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Mean spirited and mocking. Posts like this make DU suck.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:01 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think it's the facts in the post that are harmful to du. Facts are facts, even if you don't like them.

Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Are these facts or aren't they?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: All of these people are mean spirited and mocking. They have conjured up a fantasy about hillarysupporters.com, ridiculous. They are projecting all their meanness and intellectual weaknesses onto others (calling others thin-skinned yet obsessed with a Hillary group that they imagine talks about them all the time!) But can't hide. If we hid all the insulting comments like this we'd all be constantly on juries.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This post is opinion. For Pete's sake. This is a message board. A place where opinions are expressed.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Proserpina]

34. What a word salad that was! Especially juror #3, who seems very confused

How can a website that people have seen with their own eyes be imaginary?

I think the facts speak for themselves....I'm new to this place, I didn't know about all that data being available on subscribers and people who have been blocked.

Guess the Hillary group didn't, either.

[senz]

42. That says a lot, yet it doesn't make sense.

They seem certain that their candidate is winning -- boast about it constantly -- and yet, they act miserable. Why?

Is it because they're not in the majority here?

But then, what about their non-DU counterparts? Why aren't they more joyful? Why don't they vote for their candidate in online polls? Why don't they show up in huge numbers at her rallies?

Something doesn't add up.

[SoapBox]

25. I fully agree with your OP

and have noticed the same.

[Flying Squirrel]

29. Here it is in graph form

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251663837

(I'll be updating it soon, stay posted)

[Proserpina]

35. What a wonderful person you are, doing all that work!

It is rather graphic, isn't it?

[Proserpina]

36. I think it's time for the monthly update of this issue

I will be looking into it after Xmas.

[Autumn]

38. Now compare these statistics

Hillary group. This group was created in 2007
Primary Category: Democrats
Secondary Categories: N/A

Number of posts, 30 days: 2,997
Number of posts, All time: 30,465

Number of subscribers: 247
Number of people trashing: 150

The Bernie group. This group was created in May 2015
Primary Category: Democrats
Secondary Categories: N/A

Number of posts, 30 days: 11,457
Number of posts, All time: 87,266

Number of subscribers: 785
Number of people trashing: 111

[Betty Karlson]

43. Or: being entrenched does not make one popular.

And no number of alerts will change that.

[Paulie]

44. The Hillary group is showing growth since yesterday

Number of subscribers: 248
Number of people trashing: 152

2 to 1 trash to subscribe.

And Bernie is falling in the polls:

Number of subscribers: 786
Number of people trashing: 110

Oops Bernie, your losing trashers and gaining subscribers!